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Offline zombieslayer  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:29:59 AM(UTC)
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Matt Schaub has only been sacked 3 times. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than 20. Uh oh.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:48:50 AM(UTC)
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The last remaining undefeated team in the AFC suffered its first major blow of the season Tuesday when Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing's season was pronounced over after suffering a torn ACL Monday night against the Jets.

Cushing, the verbal leader of Houston's 3-4 defense, was the Texans' leading tackler and second-team All-Pro last season. His inside linebacker spot will be filled by either Mister Alexander, an undrafted second-year player from Florida State, or seven-year veteran Tim Dobbins. But Cushing won’t be truly replaced.


As Pack93 says GB has an opportunity. Let's see if they can do so.
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"You don't replace players like (Cushing)," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said.


Reminds me of the line of "Remember the Titans". When Denzel Washington says, "You can not replace Gary Bertier".

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Cushing was injured Monday when Jets offensive lineman Matt Slauson hit Cushing in the back of the knee, a shot some players around the NFL considered cheap.

"Where is the NFL's protection on blocks below the waist like that on Cushing?" wrote Packers linebacker Clay Matthews on Twitter. "Double standard!" Matthews was a college teammate of Cushing at USC.

Kubiak on Tuesday chose not to offer an opinion on the block, essentially saying what's done is done. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he didn't remember the specific play.


Nice to see CM3 calling out the NFL front office.

Is it just me or does Ryan have a history of players hotter other players illegally questionably and Rex pleading his ignorance?

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#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:57:37 AM(UTC)
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A quick note. HOU's 5-0 record is not against the NFL's world beaters...

MIA 30-10 Offensive ranking #13 (which they were not week 1) / Defensive ranking #15
@JAX 27-7 Offensive ranking #32 / Defensive ranking #30
@DEN 31-25 Offensive ranking #9 / Defensive ranking #13
TEN 38-14 Offensive ranking #26 / Defensive ranking #29
@NYJ 23-17 Offensive ranking #28 / Defensive ranking #20

We're not anything special statistically at 21/16, but we are certainly underplaying. Maybe we put it together this Sunday.
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:12:00 AM(UTC)
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:19:37 AM(UTC)
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Nice to see CM3 calling out the NFL front office.

Is it just me or does Ryan have a history of players hotter other players illegally questionably and Rex pleading his ignorance?

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Cut Blocks have pissed me off for years, it is a pansy ass why to block the guy in front of you.. can beat then cut him bullshit. That and because they can't get in front of them, cut them.

It had worked its way out of the NFL somewhat until Alex Gibbs brought his "Zone Blocking" (heavy duty cut blocking) back. Everyone seen the Bronco's success and some adopted it.. some tried to remove the cut aspect from it and it wasn't nearly as effective. It is a piss poor way to play the game.. that is like chopping a running down and the knees, you are going to hurt someone.

I started a thread of its own here.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Pack93z  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:20:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
The referee's gifted the Packers 7 points, without that, the game was even further out of control.


It is what it is ( Big Grin ).. end of the day, the Packers had a chance to tie that ball game up.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#32 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:40:15 AM(UTC)
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:08:37 PM(UTC)
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Packers didn't do themselves any favors by letting one get away at Indy, but even with a loss this week I'm not gonna start panicking.
Win at home, split on the road, that will give you an 12-4 record.

Well Packers already lost 1 at home so they are looking at 11-5 if they can just hold true to that formula.

2-4 not where you want to be, but not the end of the season either.

I'm predicting a Packer upset, been awhile since Packers were underdogs, I haven't seen the line but presume The Texans are favored.

Packers 27 Texans 26.

Edit: All you need to do is look at turnover differential to figure out the big difference between last year and this year.
Packers have had their chances, they need to start getting those turnovers.

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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#34 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:35:48 PM(UTC)
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2 key stats
When we run 20+ times we win.
But, when we run 10 times or less we lose..

It's as simple as that. Teams take advantage of that so easily, and will kill you with no running game.. (49ers and Colts sure did)
After the second quarter against the Colts, we said goodbye to the running game, and let the defense 'try' to win the game for us.
When we run the ball it keeps the clock going and gives the defense a break on the sidelines. (Which worked great for us untill the 2nd half)

The Texans are so successful at this and creates the perfect forumula to winning on offense and defense.
Like what pack93 said they are top 10 in fewest defense snaps. I almost gurrentee most of those teams have the best records in the NFL. Most likely 2 of em' are in the NFC North...

Idc what Running Backs we have they need to run the ball consistantly throughout games. Hopefully Mike McCarthy is realizing it, even though he strictly bases the offense on matchups. (Which really is not a bad thing)

And, is it me or does the Texans remind us of the Bears? Probably me.
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Offline warhawk  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:38:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Go to Quoted Post
2 key stats
When we run 20+ times we win.
But, when we run 10 times or less we lose..

It's as simple as that. Teams take advantage of that so easily, and will kill you with no running game.. (49ers and Colts sure did)
After the second quarter against the Colts, we said goodbye to the running game, and let the defense 'try' to win the game for us.
When we run the ball it keeps the clock going and gives the defense a break on the sidelines. (Which worked great for us untill the 2nd half)

The Texans are so successful at this and creates the perfect forumula to winning on offense and defense.
Like what pack93 said they are top 10 in fewest defense snaps. I almost gurrentee most of those teams have the best records in the NFL. Most likely 2 of em' are in the NFC North...

Idc what Running Backs we have they need to run the ball consistantly throughout games. Hopefully Mike McCarthy is realizing it, even though he strictly bases the offense on matchups. (Which really is not a bad thing)

And, is it me or does the Texans remind us of the Bears? Probably me.


Actually, the defense the Colts put up gave us much greater opportunity for success passing the ball then running it. The bumped our wideouts, covered the running lanes while bringing pressure if Rodgers was throwing it.
Our recourse was to BLOCK the pressure, give Rodgers some time, and the WR's to beat their man. We didn't block well and guys were not getting open in the second half.

So for me it was a matter of not executing in the passing game that would have forced Indy out of the D they were playing and into one that may have offered a better chance to run the ball. It was no breakdown that you saw when Green was going nowhere. We were running plays into the teeth and strength of what the defense was in.

I give the Colts credit for the patience they showed but had we put up one more TD in the 3rd Quarter they would have been forced out of their defensive game plan. I was actually surprised the Colts stuck with it after Rodgers wrung them up 3 times but thats why the coaches get the big bucks and we get to watch.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:18:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
Actually, the defense the Colts put up gave us much greater opportunity for success passing the ball then running it. The bumped our wideouts, covered the running lanes while bringing pressure if Rodgers was throwing it.
Our recourse was to BLOCK the pressure, give Rodgers some time, and the WR's to beat their man. We didn't block well and guys were not getting open in the second half.

So for me it was a matter of not executing in the passing game that would have forced Indy out of the D they were playing and into one that may have offered a better chance to run the ball. It was no breakdown that you saw when Green was going nowhere. We were running plays into the teeth and strength of what the defense was in.

I give the Colts credit for the patience they showed but had we put up one more TD in the 3rd Quarter they would have been forced out of their defensive game plan. I was actually surprised the Colts stuck with it after Rodgers wrung them up 3 times but thats why the coaches get the big bucks and we get to watch.


I agree totally with you that they flat out wanted us to beat their agressive play. That being said our offense as a WHOLE played lower than expectations in the second half. Ultimately not beating them, ecspecially in 1 on 1 situations. Buying that 21-3 lead, Mike McCarthy knows now that he made the mistake of telling his team to close it or put it away with 2 Quarters left in the game. Leading to trying to get the big play every series instead of keeping it balanced. Which, kept our D on the field favoring the Colts with momentum.

I'll tip my hat off to the Colts though, for staying in the game and challenging us throughout.

I still think getting away from that run game killed us. Like Zero posted: we had 4 drives that accumulated 3 minutes... one being 21 seconds long.. you just can't have that, and it hurt our defense as well.

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#37 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:07:16 AM(UTC)
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Packers need to bring their "A game" here to even make this close. Yes, the Texans have played bad teams so far but they are 5-0. They beat the teams they are supposed to beat, the Packers haven't. This Sunday is the absolute best time to turn the ship around and start winning. The Packers need this game more than the Texans do.

I think the Packers get this win, but it won't be easy.

Packers- 28
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#38 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:33:42 PM(UTC)
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I don't see any way that the Packers win this week.
They are down too many players, and they can't even beat a rookie QB when they have a big half time lead.
Our defense is back to it's old ways of last year, and our offense can't put 4 quarters together.
Yes, i HOPE i'm wrong.
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#39 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 9:49:10 AM(UTC)
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WR Greg Jennings, TE DJ Williams, TE Jermichael Finley, DT BJ Raji and S Sean Richardson not practicing today....


not good
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#40 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 11:12:57 AM(UTC)
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Greg Jennings ruled out for Sunday’s trip to Houston
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#41 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:49:06 AM(UTC)
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Is Starks going to play?
If so, i'd like to see him carry this team. I think he can do it,the question is, will he?
We need a running game, that's for certain. Our O-line is too poor to protect Aaron Rodgers if the D knows we can't run the ball.
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#42 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:09:36 PM(UTC)
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James Starks should be active, yes. Alex Green will start.

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#43 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:10:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
Is Starks going to play?
If so, i'd like to see him carry this team. I think he can do it,the question is, will he?
We need a running game, that's for certain. Our O-line is too poor to protect Aaron Rodgers if the D knows we can't run the ball.


Green is the man. I really do not think there is a big difference between Green and Starks, but Mike McCarthy will go with the "hot" hand. However, we don't run enough for anyone to be considered hot.
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#44 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:19:07 PM(UTC)
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Green is the man. I really do not think there is a big difference between Green and Starks, but Mike McCarthy will go with the "hot" hand. However, we don't run enough for anyone to be considered hot.


Starks - always falls forward for a gain, won't break any big 45+ gainer, very powerful runner.
Green - quicker, more elusive, better at catching out of the backfield and prone to being tackled for a loss.

Both guys run a 4.5-4.6 40 yard so they are bout equally fast, but Green is a more shifty runner and quicker.

Green
Height: 6-0
Weight: 225


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Height: 6-2
Weight: 218
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#45 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:33:56 PM(UTC)
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We need this game.

We can't go 8-2 from here on out.
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#46 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:43:37 PM(UTC)
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The Jets just destroyed the Colts. Now I definitely think this is a loss.
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#47 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:17:24 PM(UTC)
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The Jets just destroyed the Colts. Now I definitely think this is a loss.


I GUARANTEE we will be in it.

We will have a chance, at minimum.
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#48 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:29:51 PM(UTC)
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The Jets just destroyed the Colts. Now I definitely think this is a loss.

Shame on you don't underestimate any team in the NFL. There's upsets every week. Like the Browns winning this week. Who thought that would happen?
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#49 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:18:03 PM(UTC)
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Nerd's keys to the game:

1: Arodge needs to make plays. If a guy comes open hit him. Shorter passes are higher percentage, less likely to be dropped.

2: Get Cobb involved more. Dude is explosive and dynamic. No one can stop him in the open field.

3: Help Green get going with some misdirection, screens draws and general "Sproles" type plays. Plays that work to his and this offense's strength.

4: Defense needs to hang onto the INTs. If you have a shot at one, get it. Start making those plays.

5: Oline needs to get it done. I'm talking mainly about Saturday and Bulaga. Newhouse is what he is, which is passable, the guards are ok, Saturday gets blown up at times and Bulaga is struggling too. Tendinitis in the knee.

6: Special Teams might come up big.

7: Pay attention to Time of Possession. Don't keep hanging the defense out to dry, year after year. Get with some WCO fundamentals. Wear THEIR defense down instead.
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#50 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:36:09 PM(UTC)
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Shame on you don't underestimate any team in the NFL. There's upsets every week. Like the Browns winning this week. Who thought that would happen?


Check the betting thread in the Back Alley. There's a certain someone who put $20 on the Browns.
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