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Offline Pack93z  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:58:35 PM(UTC)

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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
What a crock? It was a perfect hit on a QB in the pocket. How else is he suppose to hit?

Great hit


Can you run that forward a couple frames from that angle?
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:02:33 PM(UTC)

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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
What a crock? It was a perfect hit on a QB in the pocket. How else is he suppose to hit?

Great hit


I feel bad for Perry man.. Gets a sack in his first game in the NFL... gets called back for doing something Clay always does. Then this... and an insult to injury 15k? Just keep doing what your doing Perry, your time will come!
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:32:47 PM(UTC)

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So you can't hit them in the legs. You can't hit them in the head. You can't hit them with your upper body first, unless you can remove your head first. Pretty soon we will see Clay have to pull up 2 ft from QB, turn and try to blow him over with a massive fart.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:32:50 PM(UTC)

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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Nick Perry fined $15k for borderline shot on Andrew Luck


Can't hurt the NFL's future poster boy.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:42:17 PM(UTC)

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Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Can you run that forward a couple frames from that angle?


Sure I can, and it will make it look like a bad hit when it wasn't.

Here you go.
Still good hit

But when you look at the situation. Perry is approaching Luck. Luck's body is angled away from Perry so he is not hitting his square from the front or the side. It is a front quarter angle (when shooting a deer). In that situation, To properly hit Luck, You would try to hit him in the bicep/elbo area with your head to Luck's front. Exactly what Nick did.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:45:26 PM(UTC)

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stevegb said: Go to Quoted Post
Can't hurt the NFL's future poster boy.


It isn't just this candy ass.. it is all the candy ass QB's. And it has been going on for almost 30 years in my experience. There is a reason I hate the QB position.. this is an example of such.

Defenders can get blown up by a pulling guard, blindsided by a receiver or worse yet cut and taken out.. just part of the game or great block. But pop the golden boy with just a wee bit of the trauma.. flag.. now in the NFL fines and or suspensions.

Why not just put a flag on their belt and bubble wrap the bitches.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:49:19 PM(UTC)

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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Sure I can, and it will make it look like a bad hit when it wasn't.

Here you go.
Still good hit



Thanks.

I agree that the situation played into it, but the hit fits the rule. Again bullshit, but I can't blame the ref for flagging it. I blame the rules committee.

It is no different than some of the defenseless receiver bullshit, the receivers move and when you are approaching to deliver the hit, you just can't always adjust.

I hate the rules.. I hate QB's in general.. but I can't fault the Ref for throwing the flag.


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But when you look at the situation. Perry is approaching Luck. Luck's body is angled away from Perry so he is not hitting his square from the front or the side. It is a front quarter angle (when shooting a deer). In that situation, To properly hit Luck, You would try to hit him in the bicep/elbo area with your head to Luck's front. Exactly what Nick did.




I would have put my head to the backside and whacked him with the right shoulder with the right arm swiping at the ball. The QB is going to slide up in the pocket if anything, this will protect me from drawing the flag. I would rather have my hand/arm on the ball ripping at it than my helmet.

But I see what you are saying, it just ended poorly with the location of hat to chest.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:54:54 PM(UTC)

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Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Thanks.

I agree that the situation played into it, but the hit fits the rule. Again bullshit, but I can't blame the ref for flagging it. I blame the rules committee.

It is no different than some of the defenseless receiver bullshit, the receivers move and when you are approaching to deliver the hit, you just can't always adjust.

I hate the rules.. I hate QB's in general.. but I can't fault the Ref for throwing the flag.


I would have thrown the flag based on the rules and they way the game is called and what I thought I saw real time. And I would have been wrong also.. It was my first instinct when I saw the hit live. The ruling on the field for the flag was hit to the QB head which really didn't happen so now the NFL is fining for Leading with the crown.

Unless Goodell has some joint nobody else does, his head is on top of his shoulders as well. You can't tackle with your shoulder without the head being first.

I like that Rodgers has spoken up about his also. QB's need to start saying that it is BS, that they wear pads and sign up knowing they can be hit. Some protection I can see, but they went to far years ago and just keep going further.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:57:44 PM(UTC)

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Twins.. I assume you were at the game correct? I haven't seen that angle.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:05:31 PM(UTC)

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Twins.. I assume you were at the game correct? I haven't seen that angle.


No, that angle is available through NFL.com highlights.
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:07:49 PM(UTC)

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No, that angle is available through NFL.com highlights.


Hmmm.. I thought I grabbed them all. Thanks.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:39:55 PM(UTC)

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I would have put my head to the backside and whacked him with the right shoulder with the right arm swiping at the ball. The QB is going to slide up in the pocket if anything, this will protect me from drawing the flag. I would rather have my hand/arm on the ball ripping at it than my helmet.

But I see what you are saying, it just ended poorly with the location of hat to chest.


Putting the head behind him, really increases the chance of a QB stepping up and missing the tackle completely. Along with the chance that Clay is coming around the other side ending up with a collision between team members.
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