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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:45:15 AM(UTC)
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Clay Matthews, tweeted wrote:
If the NFL really wants to increase player safety, start protecting players on BOTH sides of the ball. . . . Where is the NFL's protection on blocks below the waist like that on Cushing. Double standard!


unknown Packer Player wrote:
It’s definitely on us as players. But I think the refs are out to get us this year.


I said earlier that I think the Seahawks outcome has tweaked this teams psyche and they are more concerned with the referee's making the call than they are about the opponent. This really bothers me.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:30:23 AM(UTC)
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I don't think that Matthews tweet has anything to do with refs. It is simply about some players being protected with hits that have low likely hood of ending a career. Perry hit on Luck for example, and other hits that could, like a desperation chop block on Cushing.

The second comment I think would depend on who made it. I could see a defensive player more specifically getting this in their head. Shields probably more than anybody. but that also is a pretty common thought in DBs. Not out to get a team as in a position or positional group like DBs. Heck we have seen for years, every time one makes a play, the first thing they have to do is look to see if a flag was thrown.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:37:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
.. Heck we have seen for years, every time one makes a play, the first thing they have to do is look to see if a flag was thrown.




This is a point I want to emphasize as well. It has gotten to the point that every damn incompletion requires the QB or WR to whine for a PI call. I don't want to see the Pack act that way and it annoys the hell out of me when I see other teams do it.

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Offline nerdmann  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:49:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb Go to Quoted Post
This is a point I want to emphasize as well. It has gotten to the point that every damn incompletion requires the QB or WR to whine for a PI call. I don't want to see the Pack act that way and it annoys the hell out of me when I see other teams do it.



They need to clean up the PI rule.

No question about that.

I DO believe there are untoward influences in the NFL.

FIRST: I believe that the rules favor offensive players in an attempt to increase scoring and "highlight reel" type plays.

SECOND: I do believe the referees have an agenda to try to keep games close, again to maximize television viewership.

There is money in gambling, and I do believe that some of that goes on, as far as game fixing or point shaving and whatnot. HOWEVER, imo the biggest untoward influence in the game comes from Goodell himself. He wants television ratings and the money that comes with it, at all costs, including that of the integrity of the game.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:56:00 PM(UTC)
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If the NFL really cared about player safety, they would let PI go and defenders to defend receivers. It would lower the number of passes because of tighter coverage, and players would be less willing to light up the WR if they knew their teammate was covering them tight.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:12:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
If the NFL really cared about player safety, they would let PI go and defenders to defend receivers. It would lower the number of passes because of tighter coverage, and players would be less willing to light up the WR if they knew their teammate was covering them tight.


I think they should let you challenge PI reguardless of tipped passes and what not. Because it is by far the most called penaltie.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:16:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I said earlier that I think the Seahawks outcome has tweaked this teams psyche and they are more concerned with the referee's making the call than they are about the opponent. This really bothers me.


That "unknown packer" was probably TJ Lang.Tongue
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:22:21 AM(UTC)
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IMO the worst change in the rules in my lifetime was the 5-yard chuck rule. Allow bump and run coverage (and pushing off until the ball is in the air, then hands off.

Interference still will be a judgment call, but would be a lot simpler for morons like the lawyers-in-stripes to call. "I saw the ball in the air. You initiated the contact I saw. Penalty. STFU."

Of course the modern receiver is such a wuss that pass completions would fall by 50 percent for a couple years.

But it'd be worth it.

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:48:59 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wade Go to Quoted Post
IMO the worst change in the rules in my lifetime was the 5-yard chuck rule. Allow bump and run coverage (and pushing off until the ball is in the air, then hands off.


That's very unreasonable as it requires a lot of judgment. The rules need less judgement, less gray area. The NFL needs more black/white rules, not more gray area rules. They need to let players play more and eliminate all these little "loopholes" in the current rules.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:28:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
That's very unreasonable as it requires a lot of judgment. The rules need less judgement, less gray area. The NFL needs more black/white rules, not more gray area rules. They need to let players play more and eliminate all these little "loopholes" in the current rules.


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