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Offline gbguy20  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:39:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
What about Kuhn? There were other options besides Green than the one Mike McCarthy chose (abandon the run). Kuhn's not going to break a 40 yarder, but he can pound it inside and can be a good lead-in to a play-action pass.

For someone who says he wants to run the ball, Mike McCarthy abandons the run incredibly quickly (and in the case of the Seattle game before the first play was run).


I disagree that Kuhn is the guy to make the defenses respect the play fake. I fully agree with your second statement.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:13:55 PM(UTC)
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I'd second bringing in Kuhn. Yes, he'll not break the big one, but at least he'll make the defenders sore after the game.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:40:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
I'd second bringing in Kuhn. Yes, he'll not break the big one, but at least he'll make the defenders sore after the game.


Green deserves a shot.

Remember, he led the nation in per carry average at Hawaii.

Dude also paid his dues on ST, which cost him his rookie year after an ugly knee injury. He deserves it.

Maybe Mike McCarthy will start calling some screens...

(I think Green would look really good running those "Randall Cobb/Percy Harvin/Darrin Sproles/Reggie Bush" type plays out of the backfield.)
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Offline Porforis  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:58:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wade Go to Quoted Post
IMO, the problem isn't the pass/run ratio. It's the shotgun/non-shotgun ratio.


Personally, I think it's an issue with the points scored/points allowed ratio.
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Offline RajiRoar  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:46:46 PM(UTC)
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i'm not sold on Green.. but he may be our best option at this point.

Hawaii has a very non-NFL style offense. so really it's up how how well he's been coached since then.

we know what we have with Starks which is "meh"..


(i'd personally like to see him bulk up that 6'2 frame because he looked like a WR in our SB run.)


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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:10:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
i'm not sold on Green.. but he may be our best option at this point.
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Hawaii has a very non-NFL style offense. so really it's up how how well he's been coached since then.

we know what we have with Starks which is "meh"..


(i'd personally like to see him bulk up that 6'2 frame because he looked like a WR in our SB run.)


At least we know we have 2 Backs with Speed, catching ablity and potential. In Green and Saine. Green reminds me of Benson so much. The body, the running style, the explosiveness (may be even more explosive then Benson) The thing we will miss most from Benson is Pass Protection. Which Green needs to improve on.
Offline Wade  
#17 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:14:45 AM(UTC)
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How about this?

The Packers hire a "head coach's assistant". Pay him $1K/game and pay his plane flights and hotel bills.

He has two jobs.

1. Stand on the sideline and say, "Coach, you're calling too many pass plays again."
2. Stand on the sideline and say, "Mike, you dumb fuck, you just called four straight plays from the shotgun again."

Bet the team pays far more than that for motivational speakers, consultants, and whatnot.

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#18 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:09:45 AM(UTC)
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4 drives, 3 minutes.

40 second play clock right? We'll use 35 seconds per play to round it down a bit.

15:00 - 1st and 10 - run for zero yards
14:25 - 2nd and 10 - run for zero yards
13:50 - 3rd and 10 - run for zero yards
13:15 - 4th and 10 - punt

Figure 1 minutes, 45 seconds for 1 drive.
Figure 3 minutes, 30 seconds for 2 drives.
Figure 5 minutes, 15 seconds for 3 drives.
Figure 7 minutes, 00 seconds for 4 drives.


12 runs for 0 yards over four drives eats up 7 minutes. Whereas the Packers chewed up 3 minutes previously. We can't go back an change the outcome, but I wonder what would have happened if the Colts had 4 less minutes to play with.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:52:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
4 drives, 3 minutes.

40 second play clock right? We'll use 35 seconds per play to round it down a bit.

15:00 - 1st and 10 - run for zero yards
14:25 - 2nd and 10 - run for zero yards
13:50 - 3rd and 10 - run for zero yards
13:15 - 4th and 10 - punt

Figure 1 minutes, 45 seconds for 1 drive.
Figure 3 minutes, 30 seconds for 2 drives.
Figure 5 minutes, 15 seconds for 3 drives.
Figure 7 minutes, 00 seconds for 4 drives.


12 runs for 0 yards over four drives eats up 7 minutes. Whereas the Packers chewed up 3 minutes previously. We can't go back an change the outcome, but I wonder what would have happened if the Colts had 4 less minutes to play with.


I'll just say that I find it highly unusual for a team up by 18 and getting the ball to start the 2nd half to call the first seven plays pass plays, with 6 out of the shotgun, resulting in two 3 & outs (one became a 4 & out because a penalty was called on one of the pass plays). With a lead like that I would have expected SOME attempt at running some time off the clock.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:59:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
I'll just say that I find it highly unusual for a team up by 18 and getting the ball to start the 2nd half to call the first seven plays pass plays, with 6 out of the shotgun, resulting in two 3 & outs (one became a 4 & out because a penalty was called on one of the pass plays). With a lead like that I would have expected SOME attempt at running some time off the clock.


I have no earthly idea why they went to a sorta shootout/desparate gameplan in the 2nd half. I hope it doesn't continue. That opening half INT and quick score cause that apporach. Very uncharacteristic by this offense.
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