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Offline Yerko  
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:38:07 AM(UTC)
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I wouldn't be surprised or upset if that "unknown player" was Sam Shields. The guy has played good defense and been interfered with more than a receiver, yet he gets called for PI.

The calls all around so far have been blatantly horrible, from pass interference to roughing the passer. I still can't believe some people agree with the roughing the passer hit by Perry...that is a text book tackle to me.

Roger Goodell has officially ruined football with all these rules.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:29:10 AM(UTC)
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Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
No touching until the receiver has the ball in his hands! Do NOT touch the quarterback!


I would rather see the CB and WR bump and touch as much as they want, as long as they don't restrict the arms/hands in any fashion. Let the best man win.

As for the aiming at the knees, I think it should be avoided and helmet to helmet hits and forearms to the head as well.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:12:44 AM(UTC)
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I don't know I could definitely see the "out to get us" comment being sort of tongue in cheek and not in reference to some sort of conspiracy. It's impossible to know the context being that it's in writing and anonymous.

I kind of agree with Clay. There is no reason a 300+lb man has to dive into a 250lb mans knee to block him. I don't see any detriment to the game by making guys block someone standing up instead of diving at them.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:14:42 AM(UTC)
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know I could definitely see the "out to get us" comment being sort of tongue in cheek and not in reference to some sort of conspiracy. It's impossible to know the context being that it's in writing and anonymous.


"every joke has a little bit of truth to it."


I personally want the previous week's games a far distant memory, and not even joked about or tongue in cheek'd about or anything weeks later. You don't move on, the NFL will pass you by and you'll be 2 - 3 going against a 5 - 0 team on Sunday Night in front of the country.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:20:38 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
That's very unreasonable as it requires a lot of judgment. The rules need less judgement, less gray area. The NFL needs more black/white rules, not more gray area rules. They need to let players play more and eliminate all these little "loopholes" in the current rules.


How does my rule require more judgment than the current mess?

All the official needs to do is "see ball in air" (which has to do already for the interference rule), then look down at DB/WR and see who initiates post-air contact first.

And it gets rid of all that crap about how far past 5 yards is too far. And the "incidental contact" part, too. In fact, eliminates the need for any illegal contact foul at all. Players can mug each other until the ball is in the air, and must play complete hands off afterward. One place of interpretation (first contact after airborne") only, not 3-4

How, short of saying there is no interference foul, is there a more black and white rule possible? Seriously.

(As an aside, I'd also change the penalty to a max 20 yards from LOS.)

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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
How does my rule require more judgment than the current mess?

All the official needs to do is "see ball in air" (which has to do already for the interference rule), then look down at DB/WR and see who initiates post-air contact first.

And it gets rid of all that crap about how far past 5 yards is too far. And the "incidental contact" part, too. In fact, eliminates the need for any illegal contact foul at all. Players can mug each other until the ball is in the air, and must play complete hands off afterward. One place of interpretation (first contact after airborne") only, not 3-4

How, short of saying there is no interference foul, is there a more black and white rule possible? Seriously.

(As an aside, I'd also change the penalty to a max 20 yards from LOS.)



At what point is the ball in the air and how are they going to decipher when the ball is in the air and WR/CB need to stop battling? Stare at the QB until the ball is thrown and if you see contact between them, FLAG? What about that referee's other responsibilities? How is he going to get a clear view of the QB and all WR/CB?
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:26:29 PM(UTC)
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Seems to me the Packers have had more then their "fair share" of bad calls against them this season.
The NFC North should read:
Green Bay Packers 2-1
Replacement refs 1-0
Regular refs 1-0
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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 5:09:00 PM(UTC)
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Nobody would be bitching about the calls from last game if it weren't for the previous two games. I think we need to keep that in mind and in perspective. Bad calls are going to look a lot worse all season because we got royally screwed earlier on.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 5:32:13 PM(UTC)
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Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
Nobody would be bitching about the calls from last game if it weren't for the previous two games. I think we need to keep that in mind and in perspective. Bad calls are going to look a lot worse all season because we got royally screwed earlier on.


Yes, we are becoming hyper sensitive about it all. Nobody was yelping about calls or missed calls going in our favor. IE.. last Sunday and Woodson pinning Wayne's arm down.
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#20 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 10:32:57 AM(UTC)
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Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
Nobody would be bitching about the calls from last game if it weren't for the previous two games. I think we need to keep that in mind and in perspective. Bad calls are going to look a lot worse all season because we got royally screwed earlier on.


I beg to differ. When the calls are that wrong, Perry and Shields. I will definately call them out.
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