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Offline nerdmann  
#91 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 10:01:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
Do you guys think that Raji is overvalued as a run defender? Pickett seemed much more effective in there and even our nickel seems well equipped to step up over that with Neal and Worthy together.


Raji's not known as a run defender. He's a pass rushing NT.

Pickett is the run stuffer of the group.
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#92 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 11:13:10 AM(UTC)
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Thought it might be interesting to see what the Texans rag had to say about the game.. some of the articles.


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QB: C-minus

Matt Schaub was under tremendous pressure from the start. He was sacked three times – the same number as the first five games. He also threw two interceptions, the same number as the first five games.

RB: F-plus

The running game averaged 3.2 yards a carry. Arian Foster scored two touchdowns but totaled only 29 yards on 17 carries. That’s a 1.7-yard average per carry. The blocking was bad way too often against the Packers’ three-man front.

WR/TE: B-minus

Andre Johnson had eight catches for 75 yards and reached the magical 10,000-yard mark. Owen Daniels and Garrett Graham, both of whom played at Wisconsin, combined for six catches for 71 yards. Nobody caught a touchdown pass.

OL: D

Matt Schaub was under too much pressure and got hit way too much. The running game averaged only 3.2 yards a carry. And the Packers were missing injured nose tackle B.J. Raji. They also lost two starting linebackers.

DL: C-plus

J.J. Watt recorded two more sacks and had four tackles for loss. They got pressure on Aaron Rodgers, but he was able to avoid it. Overall, the run blocking was good. They limited the Packers to 3.2 yards a carry.

LB: C

The linebackers contributed to the run defense that allowed 99 yards, including 3.2 yards per carry. They didn’t get burned in coverage like the secondary did. Bradie James was the leading tackler with six. They had no sacks.

DB: F-minus

You don’t give up six touchdown passes, one short of the league record, and have anybody play well. Jordy Nelson burned Johnathan Joseph. James Jones torched Kareem Jackson. Glover Quin cost them a touchdown. It was across-the-board bad.

Specialists: C-minus

Bryan Braman blocked a punt that DeVier Posey recovered in the end zone for a touchdown. They committed three penalties, including two that led to touchdowns. Shayne Graham had a 51-yard field goal and punter Donnie Jones had a 45.8-yard net.

Coaching: F

This was an embarrassing performance before a record home crowd and a national television performance. Coach Gary Kubiak’s team wasn’t ready to play on offense, defense or special teams.


Personally, I thought it was funny what Watt did with the belt thing.. so did Rodgers. I am not big on going to the showboat nonsense.. but I did chuckle about the belt thing. State Farm got their money's worth last night in the interview though.

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The Texans’ J.J. Watt is having a impressive season, more impressive than any other defensive player in the NFL, and he had another good game against the Packers with six tackles and two sacks.

Still, you have to wonder how long he spent thinking about the classless sack dance he would do after taking down Rodgers in the first half, acting as if he were ripping off a title belt and slamming it to the ground. Any time he spent thinking about it is more than he would have before the season started and too much time for Kubiak and Wade Phillips.
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Offline steveishere  
#93 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 12:00:25 PM(UTC)
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JJ Watt copying Clay and Aarons celebrations came off as kind of weak to me because he did them both while the Texans were losing, made it seem kind of selfish IMO. I was glad to see Hayward do his salute to Houstons bench after his 2nd INT, much better timing.
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#94 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 1:20:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
JJ Watt copying Clay and Aarons celebrations came off as kind of weak to me because he did them both while the Texans were losing, made it seem kind of selfish IMO. I was glad to see Hayward do his salute to Houstons bench after his 2nd INT, much better timing.


I always enjoy it when players mock the title belt Rodgers seems to go into beast mode after that.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#95 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:32:47 PM(UTC)
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I wonder Raji's place. In base I do not see his value after this past game especially considering he's not known that way. He should be a run stuffing NT right? I thought that was why he was drafted.
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#96 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:36:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
I wonder Raji's place. In base I do not see his value after this past game especially considering he's not known that way. He should be a run stuffing NT right? I thought that was why he was drafted.


He's a decent pass rusher and provides a push up the middle on passing downs. I don't think he deserved a Pro Bowl nod last year though. He was good, but not that good.

Still, big bodies aren't exactly a dime a dozen. We could really use him.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#97 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:40:00 PM(UTC)
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Yep. And honestly he has played SO many snaps so early. Seems he lost just a little bit already. It must be tough being that big haha.
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Offline go.pack.go.  
#98 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:54:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
JJ Watt copying Clay and Aarons celebrations came off as kind of weak to me because he did them both while the Texans were losing, made it seem kind of selfish IMO. I was glad to see Hayward do his salute to Houstons bench after his 2nd INT, much better timing.


I noticed that James Jones did Arian Foster's TD celebration too, where he bowed down or whatever you want to call it. I was glad he did that, especially after what Watt did.
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#99 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 3:11:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
Yep. And honestly he has played SO many snaps so early. Seems he lost just a little bit already. It must be tough being that big haha.


Some big guys can have long careers. Gilbert Brown played from 93-03 with us, missing the 2000 season. Ryan Pickett still plays for us and he's still good. He's been playing in the NFL since '01. I was bummed when we lost Corey Williams after the '07 season. He's still in the NFL. Grady Jackson played from '97 to '09. He was a hard man to block.

So, hopefully Raji can bounce back. Remains to be seen. In my opinion, he had his best year in 2010.

The big guy I really miss though is Cullen Jenkins. He's still on the Eagles. They definitely got their money's worth last year where he had 5.5 sacks from right up the middle.
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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#100 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 3:35:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
He's a decent pass rusher and provides a push up the middle on passing downs. I don't think he deserved a Pro Bowl nod last year though. He was good, but not that good.

Still, big bodies aren't exactly a dime a dozen. We could really use him.


Ya agreed, I think he should of went in 10' more so than last year.
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