Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Gaycandybacon  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:38:31 PM(UTC)
http://blog.packers.com/2012/10...i-puts-pads-on-thursday/

Quote:
B.J. Raji put his pads on for Thursday’s practice inside the Don Hutson Center. During the portion of the workout open to reporters, Raji was doing some drill work and also some rehab work off to the side.

This marks Raji’s first participation in practice since injuring his ankle in Indianapolis in Week 5. He missed last Sunday’s game in Houston. He will most likely be listed as a limited participant in practice on the injury report.

Mike McCarthy will be providing a post-practice update.


Well that's good news since he hadn't practiced at all last week.
Do you think we should still give Pickett more snaps if Raji can go?
Pack93z  
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:43:00 PM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post

Well that's good news since he hadn't practiced at all last week.
Do you think we should still give Pickett more snaps if Raji can go?


Pickett should play more nose, especially on running plays, regardless. I would rotate those two pieces along the DE and NT spots throughout the game and with the remainder of the personnel on the DLine at End.

Part of the issue, I believe, with Raji is the number of snaps he is consuming at nose.. let him shift out some and maybe get him in more 1 on 1's or drawing more protection to the edge.
wpr  
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:48:22 PM(UTC)
yes let Pick work at NT. I thought he was more effective there than at DE likewise Raji more effect at DE than NT.
Rios39  
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:23:34 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Pickett should play more nose, especially on running plays, regardless. I would rotate those two pieces along the DE and NT spots throughout the game and with the remainder of the personnel on the DLine at End.

Part of the issue, I believe, with Raji is the number of snaps he is consuming at nose.. let him shift out some and maybe get him in more 1 on 1's or drawing more protection to the edge.


Agreed 100%. Pickett should be the NT, at least most of the time in the 3-4, which is usually only running downs. He seems to eat and get through more blockers than Raji. Raji might be better off matching up against more possible 1 on 1's especially in the passing game.

I think Raji is the starting NT mostly due to hype. I haven't seen much from him this year, nor last year unless I'm missing something..

DarkaneRules  
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:32:36 PM(UTC)
Is it more about forcing him into this position? Remember back when he was drafted, that he did not seem himself as the commanding double team 3-4 NT that the drafters necessary did. In any case, we need to find that guy if it is not Raji.
Rios39  
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:38:40 PM(UTC)
He played in a 4-3 defense, which is much easier to get a pass rush up front with. But his power DID show he had the ability to over power 2 college lineman at once
PackFanWithTwins  
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:43:40 PM(UTC)
As of now, yes keep Pickett taking the snaps. Have Raji active and rotating limited at both NT and DE while he continues to heal. Rams and Jags we should not really need Raji. Let him get healthy like they have been doing with Jennings. But make sure he is around in case we have a goal line situation where we want those two combining for 680lbs in the middle.

Once he is healthy, move him around, keeping Pickett rested and playing DE. An interior version of Cullen just before we switched to the 3-4 when he was playing DE and shifted to DT on run plays.
blueleopard  
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:30:21 PM(UTC)
Raji is more athletic anyway. Pickett should stay at NT until his playing days are over.
Gaycandybacon  
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:14:10 PM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
As of now, yes keep Pickett taking the snaps. Have Raji active and rotating limited at both NT and DE while he continues to heal. Rams and Jags we should not really need Raji. Let him get healthy like they have been doing with Jennings. But make sure he is around in case we have a goal line situation where we want those two combining for 680lbs in the middle.

Once he is healthy, move him around, keeping Pickett rested and playing DE. An interior version of Cullen just before we switched to the 3-4 when he was playing DE and shifted to DT on run plays.


I like the DE idea. But on Goalline could cause problems recovering from an injury. I would like to see them rotate him around though but not a lot of 3rd downs, ecspecially long. He could be a liablity.
beast  
#10 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 9:22:50 AM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Well that's good news since he hadn't practiced at all last week.
Do you think we should still give Pickett more snaps if Raji can go?

Good question

Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Pickett should play more nose, especially on running plays, regardless. I would rotate those two pieces along the DE and NT spots throughout the game and with the remainder of the personnel on the DLine at End.

Part of the issue, I believe, with Raji is the number of snaps he is consuming at nose.. let him shift out some and maybe get him in more 1 on 1's or drawing more protection to the edge.

Good answer


The #1 job of the NT is clog the middle and be prepared in case of a run play... to do that you have to start by playing two gap trying to protect on ether side of the lineman(men) in front of you. Pickett plays the best two gap on this team...

To pass rush normally you need to play one gap and rush up that gap and beat your guy. Pickett is probably the worst at one gap on this team, and that USED to be Raji strength though I haven't seen it lately.

I understand Raji is short and with his shorter arm it's not the best to get him working out against the OT and taller guys which a much longer reach... but why not have Pickett at NT at times and have Raki on an OG? ... like put Pickett between the C and RG and put Raji on the LG to rush up the field?

I know they wanted Raji to get on that Center and blow up the Center.. but I haven't seen him doing that too much in the last to years.


no one on this team does that better than Pickett. Problem is Pickett offers very little in pass protection.
beast  
#11 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 9:31:51 AM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
Is it more about forcing him into this position? Remember back when he was drafted, that he did not seem himself as the commanding double team 3-4 NT that the drafters necessary did. In any case, we need to find that guy if it is not Raji.


I think that was because when they played 3-4 in college he was normally a 3-4 DE because they had their own Pickett like guy (named Ron Brace, plays for the Patriots) who they put at NT.

Rios39 said: Go to Quoted Post
He played in a 4-3 defense, which is much easier to get a pass rush up front with. But his power DID show he had the ability to over power 2 college lineman at once


I remember watching Raji in college playing 3-4 a lot ... Raji was at 3-4 DE with his teammate Ron Brace (who's playing style is a lot like Pickett's) played at NT.

The difference being in college Raji could just over power the OG very easily and they didn't have such a long reach or power like they do in the NFL... where Raji is consider too short at 3-4 DE in the NFL.

But my favorite package which they did run some last year was Pickett at NT, Raji at DT lined up over the OG and one DE over the OT on the other side. The OLB on Raji side had to act a bit like a 4-3 DE but the Packers have the players for it... when/if Perry gets healthy, they could work very well, as Perry is physical enough to be a 4-3 DE and he's played it the last couple of years.
nerdmann  
#12 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 12:59:23 PM(UTC)
ONION

Quote:
GREEN BAY, WI—The NFL’s highly visible efforts to support Breast Cancer Awareness Month succeeded this week in motivating Green Bay nose tackle B.J. Raji to schedule an appointment with Packers doctors to receive a mammogram, team sources confirmed Thursday.
PackFanWithTwins  
#13 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 1:14:56 PM(UTC)
Notice how last week, the little we gave up on run plays was to the outside. Nothing up the middle where Pickett was.

I would line up Perry, Raji, Pickett, Worthy/Neal, Matthews. Pickett straight up on the C with Raji and Worthy/Neal outside shoulder of the Guards. If they double Pickett, have Hawk or Jones/whoever hit the hole to the Guards side the is on the double because that double is planned to move Pickett away from the run.


Would an offense really want to put a double on Pickett? Having Worthy and Matthews on the same side makes stunts a good possibility also.
beast  
#14 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 2:24:18 PM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Notice how last week, the little we gave up on run plays was to the outside. Nothing up the middle where Pickett was.

I would line up Perry, Raji, Pickett, Worthy/Neal, Matthews. Pickett straight up on the C with Raji and Worthy/Neal outside shoulder of the Guards. If they double Pickett, have Hawk or Jones/whoever hit the hole to the Guards side the is on the double because that double is planned to move Pickett away from the run.


Would an offense really want to put a double on Pickett? Having Worthy and Matthews on the same side makes stunts a good possibility also.



I like that idea and have called for a 5 man line like the Texans run as well. You're DBs will have to win some one on one match-ups in man coverage but the Packers have been expecting that for years out of their DBs... even before they got Woodson or Williams in they were expecting that.

And once in a while you drop a guy back into coverage... and/or drop one back and blitz an ILB.
Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Fan Shout
buckeyepackfan (21m) : Just like last year at 4-6. The guy is just too funny!
buckeyepackfan (22m) : GOOD news Uffda is already all but writing The Packers off for 2017!
uffda udfa (5h) : Masturbation talk from Barfan? Nothing could make me COME back, quicker.
wpr (6h) : Maybe the shout box needs to take a timeout. People keep using it. ;)
Zero2Cool (6h) : Why do this is in shout? So frustrating. Post in forums. Thanks
Barfarn (6h) : Masterbation will relieve some of that nervous tension!
uffda udfa (8h) : Now, a guy they really liked and have groomed for 3 years is the guy. Tons of toys on O. Let's see how it runs with a great coach, now.
uffda udfa (8h) : The Flynn Patriots game has been used to say that he is. Seneca and Scott showed otherwise.
uffda udfa (8h) : Hundley is going to settle the debate once and for all in whether Mike McCarthy is a great coach, or not.
uffda udfa (8h) : Doesn't speak well to the talent acquired by the org, does it? Easy to say talent is great until Rodgers is gone and you have to see it wit
Porforis (8h) : Could Sam Bradford come into the Packers and post a winning record from here on out? Are there any non-starters in the NFL that could?
Zero2Cool (9h) : Teddy is replaceable. Aaron is not. Vikings have a really good defense. We do not. Understand??
Zero2Cool (9h) : You are wise enough to know the difference. Right?
uffda udfa (10h) : Here's one for you, Z. Vikes lose Teddy B. and go out and aggressively get Bradford. Packers lose 12 and go out and get a UDFA.
uffda udfa (10h) : :) Evans had a pre-draft visit with Packers.
Zero2Cool (10h) : Put it in a topic. My lord why so difficult lol
uffda udfa (10h) : http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jerod-evans?id=2558099
uffda udfa (10h) : http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/former-virginia-tech-qb-jerod-evans-issues-warning-after-going-undrafted-043017
uffda udfa (10h) : Oh, Jerod Evans formerly of Va Tech is our Hokie QB plan
uffda udfa (10h) : Was previously on Eagles PS
uffda udfa (10h) : Tweeted the below due to huge chip on his shoulder for going undrafted after leaving early.
uffda udfa (10h) : Packers add Jerod Evans to PS. He went undrafted: https://twitter.com/rodfor6_/status/858382534274682884
Smokey (11h) : NO a 6 point favorite to beat the Packers in GB .
Zero2Cool (17-Oct) : Yes!!!!!
Porforis (17-Oct) : "I said that too. Why don't you quote me?? I'm famous!" - Zero2Cool
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : I said that too. Why don't you quote me?? I'm famous!
uffda udfa (16-Oct) : @ProFootballDoc says Rodgers could return Week 14 at earliest, and surgery speeds up return timeline.
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : McCarthy dropped a "bullshit" on packers.com stream. No delay apparently lol
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : @AaronNagler One thing is crystal clear: McCarthy is pissed at the way his team played yesterday.
Smokey (16-Oct) : 2017 Packers are done , time to focus on the 2018 NFL Draft .
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : Mike McCarthy says Aaron Rodgers "suffered a significant injury". Will require surgery. Potentially season could be over.
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : McCarthy --Rodgers will have surgery. Potentially season is over.
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : NaVaorro Bowman will get his full-year salary from the 49ers AND get another $3 million from the Raiders.
Smokey (16-Oct) : COOL !
Zero2Cool (16-Oct) : added a links dropdown with some misc web links
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2017 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 7:30 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 8 @ 3:25 PM
at Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 15 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Monday, Nov 6 @ 7:30 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
RAVENS
Sunday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
at Steelers
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 10 @ 12:00 PM
at Browns
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Saturday, Dec 23 @ 7:30 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
2m / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

44m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

11h / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / gotarace

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

17-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / musccy

17-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

17-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

17-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

17-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / Porforis

17-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

16-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

16-Oct / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

Headlines