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Offline Pack93z  
#111 Posted : Monday, October 20, 2008 3:11:20 PM(UTC)
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OK,

HOw about this?

IF you could have a top 5 Offense or Top 5 Defense but your team was going to be mediocre(10~20) on the other side of the ball... Which would you rather have, Based on the stats that was provided by Zombieslayer???


Defense again.. without question.

A dominate defense will help your offense more than the other way around. To control a game you have to have a defense that can get itself off the field. If your defense blows, your offense with have the rhythm of the game dictated to it.. Every possess is vital..

With a defense, you will have two important things going for you..

1) More cracks at the offensive side of the ball.. which is normally a good thing unless you are turnover happy.

2) You can almost always slow the progression of the game down.. keeping whatever pathetic form of an offense in the game.

To be a successful football team you want to control the pace and speed of the game.. I believe it easier to due that with a jarring defense than a highlight reel of an offense.. look no further than the Jekyll and Hyde teams of the Bengals of this decade.. lots of offense.. but never went anywhere.

I will build defense before offense every single time, if I can't do both concurrently.
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#112 Posted : Monday, October 20, 2008 3:29:42 PM(UTC)
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OK,

HOw about this?

IF you could have a top 5 Offense or Top 5 Defense but your team was going to be mediocre(10~20) on the other side of the ball... Which would you rather have, Based on the stats that was provided by Zombieslayer???


I'd still take the O because the analysis on another site showed that statiscally top offenses are much greater than the average offense than top defenses are greater than average defenses. Essentially, that says it's easier for a defense to be better than average than for an offense to be better than average. Of course, I might be biased towards the Big O because I'm still an Oscar Robertson fan.


YEP, I gave up basketball after Big O, Bobby D, Lew Alcindor(Abdul-Jabbar), finished with the Bucks...

Though I loved watching the Bucks play, Basketball was NOT my sport...
However, I got to meet Jon McGlocklin on a few occasions... NICE Guy!


I think the Packer's case, their offense seems to be clicking now. But, as it showed on sunday, their defense needs to play well for them to be the kind of team that dominated the opposition kind of like last year...

And IF you look at the stats that Zombie put up, there are teams that won the SB with a Mediocre (10th~20th) offense but until the last 2 years, NONE that did it with a Mediocre defense.
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#113 Posted : Monday, October 20, 2008 5:39:55 PM(UTC)
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Defense again.. without question.

A dominate defense will help your offense more than the other way around. To control a game you have to have a defense that can get itself off the field. If your defense blows, your offense with have the rhythm of the game dictated to it.. Every possess is vital..

With a defense, you will have two important things going for you..

1) More cracks at the offensive side of the ball.. which is normally a good thing unless you are turnover happy.

2) You can almost always slow the progression of the game down.. keeping whatever pathetic form of an offense in the game.

To be a successful football team you want to control the pace and speed of the game.. I believe it easier to due that with a jarring defense than a highlight reel of an offense.. look no further than the Jekyll and Hyde teams of the Bengals of this decade.. lots of offense.. but never went anywhere.

I will build defense before offense every single time, if I can't do both concurrently.


Pack - This win against the Colts showed that an O can suck the life out of an opponent. Happened to us in '97. Remember how demoralized we looked because we couldn't tackle that Bronco RB? Their little OL was pushing our big DL around all day, and by the end of the game, our D looked dead.

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The Packers' first five drives went 13, 8, 11, 10 and 12 plays, and Green Bay had a season-best 19 first downs in the first half.


This is a HUGE reason why we beat the Colts. Look at them in the 2nd half. They looked desperate. Our D was loving their acts of desperation, especially Collins and Rouse.
Offline packersfan101101  
#114 Posted : Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:56:59 PM(UTC)
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i would attempt to create a solid running game and be in the top 5 offenses because of that.. running the ball is underrated
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I'd aim for top five in points allowed an offensive 60/40 pass/run ratio and stomp the league.
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#116 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:06:11 PM(UTC)
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I would take the top 5 offense. I think the defense can be built quicker.
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#117 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:14:39 AM(UTC)
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not mine but:
“There is no room for second place. There is only one place in my game and that is first place. I have finished second twice in my time at Green Bay and I never want to finish second again.”

Beat them down with smash mouth defense, and then humiliate them with high flying offense.
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