The attempts are important but I'd like to average at least 3 yards a carry. We will need it when the weather gets cool, and on 3rd and short it can be a very tough down for d's if they know we can pound it in there.

Kuhn looked good but Green wasn't given the same holes. With only one padded practice it's really hard to get the running game up to par in this era. We also tried a few weird /fancy shotgun draws that went backwards.

It still pisses me off that we can't run on 3rd and short.

Occasionally we'll do that FB dive play with Kuhn.

My My My, I'm just thinking to myself, wonder what Ryan Grant is thinking.
Probably, man I feel sorry for that kid, I put up 1200+ yds a yr. before I was injured and most wanted me gone, this kid has no chance. Oh well better him than me.

I'm gonns reference Barry Sanders here, not that Alex Green will ever be close to him.

I remember The Packers charting Barry's runs, some of you might also.
Looked something like this...2uds, 1yd, 4yds, 3yds. 6yds, -3yds, 8yds,3yds, 85 yd TD run.
Was always The Packers goal to keep Barry from hitting that one big run. Most of the time they failed, and he usually had more than 1 of those big runs.

The point is, and it has been stated many times in this thread, in today's game, today's Packers, need a RB who can in this order, pass block, catch passes out of the backfield, hold onto the ball when given his chances, get what positive yds you can when called on.

Green already has shown he can make things happen when he gets into open space, but that's not gonna happen a lot. As long as he gives The Packers the points stated above, he will be fine. Oh what a great feeling it will be when he does break out and run for daylight every once in awhile.

I agree that Green is good enough. Give him more opportunity and he'll get better.

Disagree with Zombie that yards don't matter. They do matter--if everytime you ran the ball the play went for a touchdown you'd attract a LOT of attention to your running game. If everytime you run it goes for -10, not so much.

So, production in the running game has SOME impact on attracting the D's attention away from your passing game--the better the production the more distracting.

What production do you need to gain to get the D's attention? I'm not sure, and I'm not even sure how you'd come up with the stats to support a minimum yards per carry.

My expectation is that it would vary based on the situation during the game--if you're winning by 20 the D may be paying more attention to the run because they expect you to run more. If you're down by 20 then it will take a LOT more production from the running game to distract the D from your passing game.

In any event, Green kept the D honest this week, even with the low yards-per-carry.

Edited by member Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:08:50 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Wait. Now I'm not getting what you're saying.

You're saying that Green kept the D honest this week, even with the low runs-per-carry. That, we agree on.

But you're saying I'm wrong about the yards not mattering. How much worse can you get than 35 yards on 20 carries? Was there any RB in the NFL in the 2012 season that got such crappy production on 20 carries? Anyone? Beuller?

If anything, THAT just proved my point. The yards don't matter. 35 yards on 20 carries is downright awful. Which is great from my perspective, because we got our carries, and with such crappy production, Green can't go to with a straight face and say "Hey Uncle Ted, I want $1 million a year or else I'll sign with the Buffalo Bills." The usually stone faced Uncle Ted will wet himself laughing.

And this is exactly the scenario The Zombieslayer wants - a crappy RB who can run the ball 20+ times a game and doesn't fumble. Bonus if he's a good blocker. Secondary bonus if he's a good receiver.

I just don't know what peoples expectations are anymore... Ecspecially expectations for a passing team. People should realise our short passing game is our running game. Dumpoffs, Running back screens, option to run or throw a bubble screen etc. etc. They all help us move the chains. Kuhn, Cobb, and Green all excell at this. We dominated the TOP with these types of things sunday. Some of you guys should know yards don't tell the whole story. Running for big yards is overrated.

Would you rather have Adrain Peterson or Aaron Rodgers win you games? Choose wisely boys.