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Offline wpr  
#21 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 8:35:21 AM(UTC)
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I agree 100%... the only jackass I knew of from that city was Tony Larussa, he is about tied with Billicheat on that accord. Genuine asshole.


He was a great manager. Nothing wrong with pushing the edge a little.
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#22 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 8:41:05 AM(UTC)
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He was a great manager. Nothing wrong with pushing the edge a little.


I agree for the most part.. but some of his beanball antics and complaints were pathetic. But the guy could manage, no doubt.


The time I have spent in St. Louis, my wife was born there, has been enjoyable. Outstanding fans and for the most part a great city. East St. Louis.. well.

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#23 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 9:02:14 AM(UTC)
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I agree for the most part.. but some of his beanball antics and complaints were pathetic. But the guy could manage, no doubt.


The time I have spent in St. Louis, my wife was born there, has been enjoyable. Outstanding fans and for the most part a great city. East St. Louis.. well.



1. A lot of the beanball antics was retaliation. If you don't want your players hit then don't hit mine. Throw at my players head and I will come after you. I respect that. I like the old game better. Bob Gibson always threw at hitters to keep them from leaning out over the plate. he would say that the batter gets the inside part of the plate. He was entitled to the outside part.

2. Tony did embarrass me with some of his tirades. But the point was not to win that argument but the next 3. He pushed the boundary back. Every manager is entitled to do the same. 90% won't and he will eat their lunch because of it. If MLB uses more replay monitors with would make managers like Billy Martin, Earl Weaver and Tony L less effective. I am all for it. Replay reviews would not slow the game down because they allow the manager to ant for 10 mins.

3. Unfortunately the shithole that is E StL is in IL not MO. I would give that away in a heart beat if I could. I made a wrong turn and ended up down there just like in Natl Lampoon's Vacation. I ran every red lite until I was out of there.
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1. A lot of the beanball antics was retaliation. If you don't want your players hit then don't hit mine. Throw at my players head and I will come after you. I respect that. I like the old game better. Bob Gibson always threw at hitters to keep them from leaning out over the plate. he would say that the batter gets the inside part of the plate. He was entitled to the outside part.

2. Tony did embarrass me with some of his tirades. But the point was not to win that argument but the next 3. He pushed the boundary back. Every manager is entitled to do the same. 90% won't and he will eat their lunch because of it. If MLB uses more replay monitors with would make managers like Billy Martin, Earl Weaver and Tony L less effective. I am all for it. Replay reviews would not slow the game down because they allow the manager to ant for 10 mins.

3. Unfortunately the shithole that is E StL is in IL not MO. I would give that away in a heart beat if I could. I made a wrong turn and ended up down there just like in Natl Lampoon's Vacation. I ran every red lite until I was out of there.


He was the As manager before St. Louis and I can assure you that he did #1 for the As as well. Which is a GOOD thing. Stand up for your players.
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I think this whole situation proves that the PACKERS are "America's Team", NOT the "Dumbass Cowboys".
When you have that many fans at every away game, i think it shows the love that the Packers get from all over the world.
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#26 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2012 9:37:42 AM(UTC)
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I think this whole situation proves that the PACKERS are "America's Team", NOT the "Dumbass Cowboys".
When you have that many fans at every away game, i think it shows the love that the Packers get from all over the world.


having the stadium sold out for over 50 years sure helps. A few franchises put "anti Packers" tactics into place. IE requiring fans to purchase tickets for 2-3 other games when they want to buy tickets for the GB game. Kinda of stupid. Kinda smart. If forces GB fans to help fill the stadium for other games as well. There is a chance of the strategy backfiring if the Packer fans tell them to f off and fewer buy tickets that then go unsold.
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