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Online Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:47:21 AM(UTC)
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2011 the Packers were near the bottom with 29 sacks. After week 7 they are first in the NFL with 24 sacks.


2011 - 29 sacks, 27th place
2010 - 47 sacks, 2nd place (1st place was Steelers with 48)
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:17:55 AM(UTC)
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sacks are nice. Pressures and hurries of the QB are important as well. They lead to ints.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:29:24 AM(UTC)
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You'd think eventually this could lead to a top 10 ranked D. They have been inconsistent at stopping the run so far. Sometimes get too soft in the second half when up by several scores
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:30:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
sacks are nice. Pressures and hurries of the QB are important as well. They lead to ints.


If someone not named Hayward can catch balls that hit them in the hands.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:41:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
If someone not named Hayward can catch balls that hit them in the hands.


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#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:15:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
If someone not named Hayward can catch balls that hit them in the hands.


I wonder if in 2012, we'll set the NFL record for most dropped INTs. Sure feels like it.

But yes. I wrote up the sack totals for the last 5 SB winners. 4 of the 5 were amongst the top of the NFL in sack totals. No coincidence.

The only exception were the Saints. But they led the NFL in INTs. Again, no coincidence.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:11:38 PM(UTC)
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The Packers have been outstanding with their pressure this season. It's definitely not a coincidence that sacks are up and the secondary (Tramon Williams & Sam Shields) is playing better.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:15:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
The Packers have been outstanding with their pressure this season. It's definitely not a coincidence that sacks are up and the secondary (Tramon Williams & Sam Shields) is playing better.


gonna have to disagree here.

while the sac numbers are up, which is a great sign. GB is still not putting on consistant pressure.


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#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:02:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
gonna have to disagree here.

while the sac numbers are up, which is a great sign. GB is still not putting on consistant pressure.


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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
gonna have to disagree here.

while the sac numbers are up, which is a great sign. GB is still not putting on consistant pressure.


Are we watching the same games? The Packers are doing a great job at making the opposing QB fear for his life and he's giving our DBs plenty of opportunities.

It's not the fault of our sack artists that our DBs can't hang onto interceptions (with Hayward the lone exception from this verbal criticism).
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:24:22 AM(UTC)
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There is no doubt that some of the sacks are "coverage sacks" just like some of the ints are due to pressure on the QB. You can't have an effective D with out a little of both.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:37:37 AM(UTC)
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I think the bigger thing than the sack and pressure numbers is the fact that the pressure is coming from more than one spot. Noted that the Dline rotation was better this season, it is showing as we are getting pressure along the front and from the edges. This makes the blitz packages more effective.

We are not dominate, but we are definitely getting pressure.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:05:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
gonna have to disagree here.

while the sac numbers are up, which is a great sign. GB is still not putting on consistant pressure.


It's been consistent enough. They aren't going to be putting pressure in the QBs face on every play and especially not when teams are using extra protection. If the other team is using extra blockers and the pressure isn't getting there it's still a win because some of their weapons are being taken away. The pressure has overall looked really good this year to me.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:28:12 AM(UTC)
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I don't claim to be a mind reader, but I can almost guarantee that the opposing QB has CM3 in the back of his mind every single snap.

Sacks are sacks. The numbers don't lie.

That said, we still haven't sacked opposing QBs as much as we've allowed sacks. This has got to change.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:29:51 AM(UTC)
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It's been solid. Not to overlook these next few games but we'll really see where we are at when we play the Giants. They seem to try to keep everyone in to block Eli and he avoids the rush pretty good. It'll also be a challenge for the DB's but If we come out with 2-4 sacks and a decent amount of pressure.

Having said that, the Houston Texans have a very good O Line and we passed that test.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:43:27 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
It's been consistent enough. They aren't going to be putting pressure in the QBs face on every play and especially not when teams are using extra protection. If the other team is using extra blockers and the pressure isn't getting there it's still a win because some of their weapons are being taken away. The pressure has overall looked really good this year to me.


It's also a win when teams back off the vertical game and go to more 3 step drops, quick screens to the outside, and to their running backs out of the backfield.

We got burned on one big quick outside screen last week but I would much rather see teams try to beat us like this then like it was last year when they were lighting the DB's up downfield and converting way to many 20+ yard plays.

The only time I see that now is when Capers goes to that stupic 3 man rush.

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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:48:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
It's also a win when teams back off the vertical game and go to more 3 step drops, quick screens to the outside, and to their running backs out of the backfield.

We got burned on one big quick outside screen last week but I would much rather see teams try to beat us like this then like it was last year when they were lighting the DB's up downfield and converting way to many 20+ yard plays.

The only time I see that now is when Capers goes to that stupic 3 man rush.



should never be getting beat over the top in a 3 man rush. If you play a sound zone coverage aspect a 3 man rush is a decent play for 3rd and forever. I wouldn't get carried away with it though. I'm one of those guys that likes a 4 man rush minimum. If it's a 3 man rush I'd like it to be a surprise element like a safety or linebacker coming from another area.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:28:13 PM(UTC)
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The important thing is that it is better than last year. The good thing is that it should continue to get better as our young player gain experience.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:14:22 AM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:02:00 PM(UTC)
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Green Bay is leading the league with 28 sacks. Wow.

Offtopic but we are currently tied for 4th in interceptions, but 7 behind the leader. Waaaaaay down the list in forced fumbles. We also have 0 defensive touchdowns, while Chicago has 7.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:31:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
Green Bay is leading the league with 28 sacks. Wow.

Offtopic but we are currently tied for 4th in interceptions, but 7 behind the leader. Waaaaaay down the list in forced fumbles. We also have 0 defensive touchdowns, while Chicago has 7.



Hasn't Chicago only played one team with a winning record, and lost BIG time to them (the Packers)? I think their schedule is about to get much more difficult. Hopefully they won't keep up their dominant defense performance. They are elite this season for sure, but I certainly expect (hope) them to come back down to earth over the remainder of the season.
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