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Offline Pack93z  
#1 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 12:47:35 PM(UTC)
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Packers are saying the helmet isn't wasn't cracked.. just a striping effect.

Not so sure about that, what type of striping has that type of jagged edge.. and why.

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Now the Packers would have every reason to not expose it.. as it may lend some explanation of why Rodgers seems a bit subdue yesterday. Beyond his elbow and neck.. what else might have been wrong with Aaron yesterday?


Anyway.. your thoughts.. cracked or not?




Supposedly James Jones Helmet.. Not the same design.. \/

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#2 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 12:49:48 PM(UTC)
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This is new to me, where's your source for that? It looks like a crack to me but it's really hard to tell with any measure of certainty in one picture from one angle.
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#3 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 12:51:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
This is new to me, where's your source for that? It looks like a crack to me but it's really hard to tell with any measure of certainty in one picture from one angle.


The jsonline blog post about it... http://www.jsonline.com/...gs/sports/176260931.html

There was some talk about it this morning elsewhere. I went looking after I seen Rodgers helmet yesterday during the game.. found it on jsonline this morning.
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#4 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 2:35:40 PM(UTC)
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If the Packers let Rodgers or any player onto the field with a cracked helmet, than several people need to suffer some serious consequences. Once a helmet is cracked, it needs to be discarded and never used again. It can no longer absorb the impact as it's supposed to. I truly hope this was some type of optical illusion, or I would be incredibly disappointed and pissed off at whomever is in charge of overseeing such a thing.
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#5 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 2:42:00 PM(UTC)
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In video it sure looks cracked. But for it to disappear and change how noticeable depending on angle and lighting, I would have to see the actualy helmet (assuming it is cracked). I could easily not be noticed during a game. I don't think anybody is tasked with checking to make sure a helmet isn't cracked during a game.

In the still, it looks to me like the edge of the center stripe came loose.
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#6 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 2:53:44 PM(UTC)
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I don't think it was cracked. I wouldn't tag the Packers as an organization to send QB1 onto the field with that kind of danger, nor would I tag Rodgers to be that guy who is throwing on a cracked helmet to go play.

Edit: Correct me if I am wrong, but are these two separate helmets with almost identical things happening?
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#7 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 2:59:37 PM(UTC)
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I don't think there is a way that an NFL team would allow such a thing.. but just think if it is/was.

The fallout would be... wow.. where do you start and stop.
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#8 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 11:12:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
I don't think it was cracked. I wouldn't tag the Packers as an organization to send QB1 onto the field with that kind of danger, nor would I tag Rodgers to be that guy who is throwing on a cracked helmet to go play.

Edit: Correct me if I am wrong, but are these two separate helmets with almost identical things happening?


Yes. the fact that james jones has the exact same thing on his helmet tells me it's not a crack and everyone is a little paranoid.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:18:44 AM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:16:40 AM(UTC)
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The NFL and Packers are very particular in the uniform appearance. Why would they have inconsistencies like this? All things considered, I'm thinking the helmets were cracked and no one caught it until after the game was over. On a conspiracy theory thought, if the Packers strongly feel the helmets are unsafe and the NFL isn't doing anything about it, perhaps they leave the helmets on hoping one shatters on the field to get national attention that the helmets need a drastic upgrade. How's that for being 'out there' lol.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:22:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
The NFL and Packers are very particular in the uniform appearance. Why would they have inconsistencies like this? All things considered, I'm thinking the helmets were cracked and no one caught it until after the game was over. On a conspiracy theory thought, if the Packers strongly feel the helmets are unsafe and the NFL isn't doing anything about it, perhaps they leave the helmets on hoping one shatters on the field to get national attention that the helmets need a drastic upgrade. How's that for being 'out there' lol.


Great idea until someone's skull shatters with it.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:41:21 AM(UTC)
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Are the stripes on the helmet painted on, or are the stripes created by strips of tape? If painted, both helmets look as if there was excess paint on the brush/machine that applied it, and after pulling away dribbled the excess on the helmet.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:54:20 AM(UTC)
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I can't believe any team would send their franchise player out on the field with a cracked helmet. That would be utter stupidity and the repercussions would be disastrous.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:26:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Go to Quoted Post
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oh look now people are searching through and circling every little mark on a helmet. Looks like a scratch/paint swap to me. Doesn't really matter what it looks like though, because on tv there is no way for us to be sure what we're seeing. Could be a scratch, could be paint swap, could be a crack. Cracked helmets seems like the most unlikely case.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:44:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
In video it sure looks cracked. But for it to disappear and change how noticeable depending on angle and lighting.


If, and that is if, it was cracked and shifted slightly.. shadows may come into play.. and this very issue, the appearing and disappearing of the line is what really spurred me to look at the article in the first place. We noticed it on the broadcast I can couldn't catch it in real time.

The Matthews one is a straight marking.. the jagged edge is the questionable part to me.. what type of striping would have such a jagged appearance?


I think it is much about nothing in the end.. the Players would be the first one to disclose it since it is their health at risk.

More curious to what it was/is. I have never noticed it other than this game..

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:09:01 AM(UTC)
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I have it recorded in HD, but I'm not watching THAT game all over again. If someone has the quarter and minute mark, I'll check into it and provide more pics.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:44:51 AM(UTC)
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I noticed it late in the game.. the video in question.. 4th Quarter about 1:17 left.

But I noticed it a couple of times in the later part of the 4th quarter.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:13:20 AM(UTC)
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The Plausible explanation...


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Green Bay - A Packers spokesman had already doused the hot rumor that QB Aaron Rodgers played with a crack in his helmet during the Jacksonville game Sunday, but being the "investigative" reporter that I am, I asked to see the helmet to make sure he had not.

Some background: A video circulating on the internet showed a network feed that had a closeup of Rodgers and showed what appeared to be a crack on the back left side of his helmet. Since you could see no symmetrical line on the other side, it did look like a little bit like a crack.

However, as the Packers explained, and a few others with knowledge of how the stripes on an NFL helmet are pasted on confirmed on Twitter, the "crack" is merely an outline of the decal secured to the surface of the helmet. The sticker widens at two places on the helmet and the outline that was evident on the video, actually exists on the left and right of the stripe down the middle.

For some reason, the lighting was such that the outline on the right wasn't visible.

Part of the reason the sticker widens, I was told, is so that it can cover holes on the top of the helmet and prevent the little rubber pellets that are at the base of Field Turf surfaces from getting inside the helmet.. It also probably assures that the stripe across the top of the helmet stays affixed.

Quarterback Graham Harrell's helmet had the exact same pattern on both sides of the stripe that Rodgers' helmet had.

So there you have it. Controversy avoided. Case closed.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24:18 AM(UTC)
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When I looked at the Jones one, and then back at the others including the Matthews one) it looks like a plastic shield protecting the helmet strip stickers from coming off.

A couple of weeks ago, I saw ESPN play a video (of a non-Packers game) where a guy was hit so hard his helmet stickers game off. Maybe NFL made a big deal about this and forced teams to find a way to keep them on?

In the Matthews pic it looks like the plastic goes to the whole in the helmet and connects there, holding the plastic in, which holds the strip in. And clearly looks like plastic in the Jones one.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:30:13 AM(UTC)
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When I looked at the Jones one, and then back at the others including the Matthews one) it looks like a plastic shield protecting the helmet strip stickers from coming off.

A couple of weeks ago, I saw ESPN play a video (of a non-Packers game) where a guy was hit so hard his helmet stickers game off. Maybe NFL made a big deal about this and forced teams to find a way to keep them on?

In the Matthews pic it looks like the plastic goes to the whole in the helmet and connects there, holding the plastic in, which holds the strip in. And clearly looks like plastic in the Jones one.


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#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:01:26 PM(UTC)
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yeah I would have said it is not a crack IF I had read this soon enough. d'oh!
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:54:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
oh look now people are searching through and circling every little mark on a helmet. Looks like a scratch/paint swap to me. Doesn't really matter what it looks like though, because on tv there is no way for us to be sure what we're seeing. Could be a scratch, could be paint swap, could be a crack. Cracked helmets seems like the most unlikely case.


I know you're joking but I just watched a replay of the game and it caught my eye.. Didn't really search for it. Big Grin

It reminded me of this topic.. So I said what the hell i'll post it Face. Palm.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:25:34 PM(UTC)
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What was with Rodgers setting down one helmet and putting on another as he went in for the kneel down? Did anyone else catch that?
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:31:16 PM(UTC)
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Matthew's helmet always looks like crap after the game...



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#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:10:31 AM(UTC)
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This has concluded, but here's what Aaron Rodgers had to say.

Jason Wilde seen Aaron Rodgers helmet, no crack. Wilde sent him a picture and Aaron Rodgers said it was the decal but would check his helmet. (Rodgers actually didn't check though as he said he told Wilde that just to be nice, lol)


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