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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer  Thanks Macbob.
I was one of the people who did the research and concluded that D is #1 and QB is #2 (and RB is irrelevant).
Gay is new to the site so probably hasn't seen that stuff. Long story short, Gay. I had an argument with RaiderPride awhile back. He said "Defense wins championships" and I said he was full of it. So I did research to prove him wrong and ended up proving him right.
If you look at all the SB winners, they generally are in the top 5 in Defense (counted by Points Allowed, the most important defensive stat). Our 4 SB winners were #1,#3,#1, and #2 respectively. No coincidence. Of course, having an elite QB is the #2 factor. In all four of those games, we had elite QBs - Bart Starr, Bart Starr, Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers respectively.
The one SB we lost, our D was #5. We didn't get the sacks we did the year before when we were #1. Which of course brings us to 2010 vs 2011. 2010, we had the #2 D and high 40s in sacks. 2011, we had the #19 D and high 20s in sacks. Our 2011 QB was better than our 2010 QB, but there is no doubt in my mind that the 2010 team would have slaughtered the 2011 team if they met in the Playoffs.
So yes, QB is the most important position. No argument there. But as a unit, D is more important than the QB position when it comes to winning Championships. Very nice reasearch. I had a feeling that most of the SB winners were top 10 D's. Interesting. 
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Very nice reasearch. I had a feeling that most of the SB winners were top 10 D's. Interesting. Just for you, my new friend. Unfortunately, most of my other research is still on that website that should not be named. http://www.packershome.c...in-Packers--History.aspxFunny before we won the SB in 2010, I wrote this article with the hope that since we had the #1 D (Pittsburgh ended up barely beating us by the end of the season), we had a pretty good chance to win the SB that year. Turned out of course, we did. Enjoy. (And just so you know, I'm a QB fan. I wish QB was > D, but my research showed it wasn't so). |
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Quote:The NFL’s trade deadline is this week (it was moved back from Tuesday to Thursday because of Hurricane Sandy) and the Green Bay Packers are reportedly looking to make a move — for St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson.
This isn’t the first time the Packers have been connected to Jackson, who seems to be taking a back seat to rookie Daryl Richardson, but that doesn’t mean a move is imminent.
Dallas, Arizona and Pittsburgh are also reportedly interested in the 29-year-old. The one thing that is for sure is the Rams are looking to move on.
Both Jackson and the Rams have mutually agreed to let him opt out of his contract after the season.
We’re not really sure the move would make sense for the Packers, since no one can open a hole for Alex Green. Then again, Jackson is a bruiser who can break tackles and that’s obviously what you need when your back is always getting hit in the backfield. Cedric Benson, who also fits that mold, was effective before going down with a foot injury.
The question then turns to how much Jackson has left. He’s had more than 1,000 yards in seven straight seasons. He has 403 so far this season and is averaging 3.7 per carry. So the evidence suggests Jackson has some left in the tank.
It’s hard to see Ted Thompson paying much for a guy who might only be with the team for half a season though. source |
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Originally Posted by: wpr and all you guys thought i was crazy, someone in packerland is listening to me !! lol |
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Originally Posted by: nyrpack and all you guys thought i was crazy, someone in packerland is listening to me !! lol Well, you may be right, but that still doesn't mean you're not crazy.  Hope you and yours are OK. I've seen pictures and video. Pretty scary to be in NY right now. |
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So according to the St Louis rag.. Rams want a 3rd round pick for Jackson. I believe that to be more than Ted would be willing to give up for a rental. http://www.rotoworld.com.../nfl/1663/steven-jacksonQuote:Steven Jackson - RB - Rams
According to ESPN's John Clayton, there's been "no action right now" on Steven Jackson in trade talks.
Reliable colleague Adam Schefter had previously reported that the Rams have already fielded not just phone calls but offers from several teams. "Don't expect a trade," says Clayton, however, citing the prohibitive $3.705 million remaining on Jackson's salary. DeAngelo Williams "probably is unlikely" to be dealt, says Clayton. It's hard to imagine Williams being amendable to adjusting his salary, which has $2.779 million remaining. Per Yahoo's Brian McIntyre, a Williams trade would also cost the Panthers $1.4 million more against the 2013 cap than an offseason release. Clayton believes LeGarrette Blount "may be the most tradeable" back on the market, as he's due less than $300,000 the rest of the way and may only cost a seventh-round pick.
Related: DeAngelo Williams, LeGarrette Blount
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The St. Louis Post-Dispatch believes it's become "painfully obvious" that the Steven Jackson era with the Rams is "drawing to a close."
The paper believes inquiring teams are only "window shopping" at the trade deadline because they're too smart to meet a third-round asking price, and it's not worth dealing Jackson for anything less than that. The reworking of Jackson's contract and the elevation of Daryl Richardson to a timeshare role, however, suggest the rebuilding Rams will move on from the 29-year-old team leader this offseason. Oct 30 - 2:19 PM
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Now.. I have to go here with this topic.. just because it is me. Here is the ranking of Free agent backs currently available... why trade anything with a couple of these options out there. Or at least bringing them in for workouts before trading value away to garner another back. I think the Packers aren't that worried about the Back spot right now.. Quote:Running Backs 1. Tim Hightower 2. Ryan Grant
3. Steve Slaton4. Thomas Jones 5. Joseph Addai 6. Mewelde Moore 7. Kahlil Bell 8. Cadillac Williams 9. Tyrell Sutton - A fan favorite in GB a couple years ago.10. Ryan Torain 11. Maurice Morris 12. Rock Cartwright13. Dimitri Nance 14. Lonyae Miller 15. Jerious Norwood16. Sammy Morris 17. Chester Taylor 18. Deji Karim 19. Kregg Lumpkin 20. Xavier Omon 21. Harvey Unga 22. Kareem Huggins 23. Davin Meggett 24. Herb Donaldson 25. Chad Spann Edited by member Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:53:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z If the Packers make a move to acquire a back.. this options seems more realistic in my mind.
I Really like Blount as a RB, I love bruiser type backs. but as a person he is a PoS, and as a teammate also a PoS.
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar I Really like Blount as a RB, I love bruiser type backs.
but as a person he is a PoS, and as a teammate also a PoS. I don't know if I would go that far. He has had some well documented issues, but I can think of a few Packers who have thrown punches. |
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z If the Packers make a move to acquire a back.. this options seems more realistic in my mind. I don't think they would trade him with their starter injured nor would the Packers be interested in the middle of the season because he doesn't known the system and they got healthy QBs (so far), but I've always liked QB Matt Moore and wanted to sign him after the Panthers let him go. He seems to be a very good back-up. |
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Originally Posted by: beast I don't think they would trade him with their starter injured nor would the Packers be interested in the middle of the season because he doesn't known the system and they got healthy QBs (so far), but I've always liked QB Matt Moore and wanted to sign him after the Panthers let him go. He seems to be a very good back-up.
? I was exclusively talking about Blount as a back.. the Packers are not in the market for a QB. Nor should they be unless they have to acquire one. Even then.. the PS would be raided first. |
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Well, you may be right, but that still doesn't mean you're not crazy. Hope you and yours are OK. I've seen pictures and video. Pretty scary to be in NY right now. ty zombie, it was pretty scary yesterday 75-80 miles a hr winds in my backyard, thankfully no real damage, but not the case for my surrounding neighborhoods, the damage was devastating to say the least !! |
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not going to happen any of it not the reason i said the above but here: Jeff Fisher says Steven Jackson staying put
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 While I don't totally believe Fisher, and as much as i like Stev Jackson. IF we were to do a trade, Williams (CAR) I believe has alot less miles on him because he has split carries for a few years. And Blount is younger than both and has shown some flashes of impressive talent... one of which we ALL remember...  that said, Mike McCarthy hasn't shown a willingness to make drastic changes to personell during the season, and has no history that I know of of teaching an offense mid-season. possibly all 3 will be available AFTER the season, and although I fully expect a new RB next year, will want one of his own.
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