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Offline wpr  
#11 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 8:07:21 AM(UTC)
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FYI, The Jones listed is Brad Jones not James.

James just got extened.
7/31/2011: Signed a three-year, $9.4 million contract. The deal included a $1.5 million signing bonus and first-year roster bonus of $950,000. Another $200,000 is available through incentives. 2012: $2.3 million (+ $200,000 roster bonus), 2013: $2.95 million (+ $200,000 roster bonus), 2014: Free Agent

Sitton's contract is to new for renegotiation to help much. Not going to drop his cap number much we still have his pro-rated SB, at most maybe 1 million or 2 savings. Sitton has a very cap friendly structure. Williams might save a little more, but still maybe 2-3 million. I personally don't like restructuring these contracts because it only pushes the hit down the road, except for Woodson, because it would be moving money down the road that he would never receive.

Sorry. #-o I was on the phone and didn't think it all the way through. I was reading from the bottom of the list up and defense came before offense. LB before WR. Wade should take my applause point away for doing a poor job.
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#12 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 10:05:54 AM(UTC)
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Sorry. #-o I was on the phone and didn't think it all the way through. I was reading from the bottom of the list up and defense came before offense. LB before WR. Wade should take my applause point away for doing a poor job.

Nah. You should have some extra applause points just because you have given over 1000 of them yourself.


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#13 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 10:04:05 PM(UTC)
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At this point, Raji needs to stay. Pickett is solid against the run, but it doesn't look like any of the other DT's are capable of getting much pressure on the inside. Raji is at least average at that with the potential to be good, and a team can win with an average push up the middle. If anything, his recent average performance should make him more affordable. Losing Raji and Pickett continuing to age and perhaps decline soon is a really bad idea. I understand the numbers simply may not work out, but Ted should be able to figure it out, somehow. I trust Ted's ability to find receiving talent much more than I do defensive line talent, if it were to come down to that.

I still think Raji can be a very effective DT/NT, but he really needs a dynamic player beside of him. Hopefully someone currently on the roster will eventually fill that role, be it Neal, Worthy, Daniels, Wilson, et. al. Most of those players have shown glimpses of having that ability, but seem to disappear more often than not. Hopefully they will progress.

Finding a large athletic man such as Raji is extremely difficult. I don't think it's time to move on from him yet, I just think it's time to find a good to really good talent to play beside him at DE in base and in the middle in sub-package's. The synergy of Raji + another really good big man would result in exponential results on the field, imo. In terms of pass rushing defensive linemen currently, it's mostly just Raji and 'a bunch of guys', as far as I'm concerned. I still really like Neal, and think he could be that guy, but I'm starting to doubt that. Obviously Worthy is just getting started, but beyond a few plays, I haven't been impressed, so far. I like Daniels a lot, as well, but he has yet to really shown anything. They are both players that aren't prototypical 3-4 DT's, but specialize in penetrating while rushing the passer. That's exactly what that Packer's need most currently.
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I too believe Raji would be missed. He hasn't been what he was our SB year but there would be a drop,off with out him. As long as player/agents don't over value themselves the only ones I see deserving a big pay increase are Rodgers and Matthews. Woodson should actually take a big pay decrease, but I don't see that happening. I think he'll want to be paid for years past, even though that isn't the way it works. Driver will be gone. So there are some spots to get some relief.
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