Join Our Green Bay Packers Interactive Community!

We have been providing fans with the best source of Packers information since 2006!
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
9 Pages<12345>»
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline polargrizz  
#21 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:03:48 AM(UTC)
polargrizz

Rank: 5th Round Draft Pick

Joined: 9/8/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 52

My question is this, with the passing game that you have why would you ever run the ball except for 3rd and short? Face it you have no running game, or at least one good enough that McCarthy will stay with it.
sorry no billboards
thanks Post received 1 applause.
zombieslayer on 11/1/2012(UTC)
Offline olds70supreme  
#22 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:15:20 AM(UTC)
olds70supreme

Rank: 6th Round Draft Pick

Joined: 8/10/2009(UTC)

Applause Given: 18
Applause Received: 42

Quote:
My question is this, with the passing game that you have why would you ever run the ball except for 3rd and short? Face it you have no running game, or at least one good enough that McCarthy will stay with it.


The point is that right now the run game is anemic. If there was a simple way to improve it it would improve the team immensely. At the moment the run game is nowhere near good enough to even count on on third and short.
blank
Offline gbguy20  
#23 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:24:09 AM(UTC)
gbguy20

Rank: 1st Round Draft Pick

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)

Applause Given: 208
Applause Received: 285

Originally Posted by: olds70supreme Go to Quoted Post
The point is that right now the run game is anemic. If there was a simple way to improve it it would improve the team immensely. At the moment the run game is nowhere near good enough to even count on on third and short.


This is one of the biggest issues this team faces right now. When its 3rd and 2, I am TERRIFIED that McCarthy is about to run the ball. I should not have to be afraid of running the ball on 3rd and 2.
call me Dan
Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#24 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:48:23 AM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins

Rank: 1st Round Draft Pick

Joined: 9/26/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 13
Applause Received: 398

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
This is one of the biggest issues this team faces right now. When its 3rd and 2, I am TERRIFIED that McCarthy is about to run the ball. I should not have to be afraid of running the ball on 3rd and 2.


I look forward to him calling a run play. I can think of maybe 2 or 3 times where we have even lined up to try and get a 3rd and short by running.
The world needs ditch diggers to Danny!!!
UserPostedImage
Online nerdmann  
#25 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:40:59 PM(UTC)
nerdmann

Rank: Most Valuable Player

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 2,699
Applause Received: 661

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
This is one of the biggest issues this team faces right now. When its 3rd and 2, I am TERRIFIED that McCarthy is about to run the ball. I should not have to be afraid of running the ball on 3rd and 2.


I'm terrified he's gonna run it too.

Then again I'm even MORE terrified, he's gonna throw deep off play action. LOL
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Online nerdmann  
#26 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:44:17 PM(UTC)
nerdmann

Rank: Most Valuable Player

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 2,699
Applause Received: 661

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
Kuhn maybe being saved for the Playoffs as well. We all know that whereas Kuhn's not gonna break the big one, tackling Kuhn hurts you more than Kuhn.

Green WILL bust a big one. It's just a matter of time. Green in the open field > Starks. I love Starks' brutality, but in the open field, my Grandma will catch up to him and tackle him. Green on the other hand will get away.

Green can handle the load. He already proved that. Starks is always injured. Starks also seems to piss of Mike McCarthy a lot.


For right now, I'm putting Green's struggles on the OL in front of him. That was a good article on the subject.

And Green is very dynamic in the open field.

I don't buy this idea of saving Starks as a "secret weapon" for the playoffs. Mike McCarthy does seem to do that with various plays and stuff during the season. In fact, all this weird bullshit on ST seems like he's fucking with the heads of coordinators around the league so they'll have plenty to think about in the post season.

BUT, keep in mind, Benson SHOULD (although he has a history of problems with that foot) be back for the playoffs.

I like Starks, but I think he's in the doghouse with Arodge/MM, for whatever reason.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Offline gbguy20  
#27 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:19:11 PM(UTC)
gbguy20

Rank: 1st Round Draft Pick

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)

Applause Given: 208
Applause Received: 285

Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I'm terrified he's gonna run it too.

Then again I'm even MORE terrified, he's gonna throw deep off play action. LOL


same.

what happened to a good ol fashion slant?
call me Dan
Offline Pack93z  
#28 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 7:21:51 AM(UTC)
Pack93z

Rank: Hall of Famer

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin

Applause Given: 398
Applause Received: 1,078

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
same.

what happened to a good ol fashion slant?


Teams have film on this offense from last year.. they as well know that we have in the recent pass been dependent on the short passing game for short yardage.. so guess what, they are scheming to take that away.

Sitting the corners on the inside shoulder, clogging up the middle of the field with extra coverage.. etc.. they are daring us to run the ball, and if not, leaving the over a little more open, thus why we are taking shots down the field, because it looks like the best option available.

Basically it is all a trickle down from us in the past not running the ball and currently struggling to run it effectively. With repetitions, we will start running the ball more effectively. But even us running the ball and struggling it is helping the offense. Sure we threw a clunker out there last week.. but the prior two weeks were tight.

Basically.. I think we are over reacting at this point, we have won three straight games with balance. That balance even helped last week in securing the win.. but because we aren't clipping off 4 yards per carry, everyone is assuming that the run isn't helping. It is still, but not as much as it could be yet. That is a work in progress, the bright spot for me, Mike McCarthy is still sticking with it and that will pay dividends later in this season.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

UserPostedImage
thanks Post received 1 applause.
yooperfan on 11/2/2012(UTC)
Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#29 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 7:46:46 AM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins

Rank: 1st Round Draft Pick

Joined: 9/26/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 13
Applause Received: 398

Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Teams have film on this offense from last year.. they as well know that we have in the recent pass been dependent on the short passing game for short yardage.. so guess what, they are scheming to take that away.

Sitting the corners on the inside shoulder, clogging up the middle of the field with extra coverage.. etc.. they are daring us to run the ball, and if not, leaving the over a little more open, thus why we are taking shots down the field, because it looks like the best option available.


We have run the slant since the beginning days of Favre. A real slant, those that, Rice ran, and those that Favre threw. They were one step drop throws. That can't be done out of the shotgun because of the time for the ball to get to QB. So the slants have been extended to 3-4 yards then slant which gives pass rush more time, and coverage more tim. Corners couldn't play inside on those real slants because each of them had a slant and a slant and go option. If the CB cheated inside, they just lofted a quick pass over the Cheating CB head, they had to play straight up, and read and try to jump the route risking the big gain. We need to get back to that.
The world needs ditch diggers to Danny!!!
UserPostedImage
Offline Porforis  
#30 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 8:11:13 AM(UTC)
Porforis

Rank: 1st Round Draft Pick

United States
Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee, WI

Applause Given: 169
Applause Received: 333

Originally Posted by: polargrizz Go to Quoted Post
My question is this, with the passing game that you have why would you ever run the ball except for 3rd and short? Face it you have no running game, or at least one good enough that McCarthy will stay with it.


Fine and dandy once at LEAST Jordy Nelson is healthy (preferably Jennings as well), but I don't have much faith in anybody but Cobb getting open routinely, and if he does he's going to be doubleteamed.
UserPostedImage
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
9 Pages<12345>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Tweeter

Recent Topics
14m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DakotaT

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Reignman

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Since69

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

18-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / luigis

18-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

18-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind