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Offline Pack93z  
#1 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 12:21:32 PM(UTC)
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My question is this.. if this happened a couple weeks ago.. why would they discuss it now with hopes that now it would come into play?

The last couple games apparently were moot in terms of it having an effect.

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Finley hopes meeting with McCarthy pays off

A few weeks ago, Packers tight end Jermichael Finley got pulled out of a meeting and was told to report to coach Mike McCarthy’s office on the third floor of Lambeau Field.

Finley feared he was in trouble.

“Because when I go up there, it ain’t good,” Finley said.

Not this time.

Finley was struggling, and McCarthy wanted him to see something. So he cued up a highlight tape that was entitled “Finley … The Beast.” It contained mostly plays from the 2009 NFC wild-card playoff game at Arizona, where Finley caught six passes for a career-high 159 yards.

“It was a good video for him to see on a number of different levels — confidence and just techniques things in there that him and I talked through,” McCarthy said today. “That was clearly one of the most dominant performances I’ve ever been a part of by a tight end in that game.”

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Offline Porforis  
#2 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 12:27:32 PM(UTC)
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Hey, I don't care what it takes. The kid has obviously got loads of talent and while some of his mechanics have gotten worse, they can always get better again. He says his shoulder is back to 100%, especially if Nelson isn't at 100% we could really use the old Finley back this week. Reach out and pluck it, catch it in the gut, do a backflip and catch it in your mouth, I don't care... Get open and catch the ball, I'll love ya!
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Offline nerdmann  
#3 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 12:56:20 PM(UTC)
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Hey, I don't care what it takes. The kid has obviously got loads of talent and while some of his mechanics have gotten worse, they can always get better again. He says his shoulder is back to 100%, especially if Nelson isn't at 100% we could really use the old Finley back this week. Reach out and pluck it, catch it in the gut, do a backflip and catch it in your mouth, I don't care... Get open and catch the ball, I'll love ya!


He HAD loads of talent before the knee injury.

Unknown as to whether or not he still does, because if he does, he's not showing it.
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#4 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 1:16:27 PM(UTC)
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Well he's been injured the last few weeks. Last year he showed glimpses, not much this year though.

Funny quotes like this are never mentioned by Finley.

“If I was the quarterback, I wouldn’t throw it to the guy who’s off rhythm right now, either,” Finley said. “So I’ve got to get that trust back.”
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#5 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 5:22:22 PM(UTC)
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I noticed something in the Jags game, Finley was one on one with a LB, killed the LB on a route he ran, turned his head which slowed his speed down to less than half speed... Rodgers threw the ball ahead of Finley... LB caught up with him and Finley didn't catch it... the LB was there making a dive at it... but really it was a drop.

I couldn't figure out why in the heck Finley slowed down... it wasn't the pass... but he's slowing down A LOT now when ever he looks back. He didn't used to... he used to be able to run full speed while looking back just like some of the WRs. I don't know what's changed or why it's changed, but it has...
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Offline Rios39  
#6 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 6:46:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
I noticed something in the Jags game, Finley was one on one with a LB, killed the LB on a route he ran, turned his head which slowed his speed down to less than half speed... Rodgers threw the ball ahead of Finley... LB caught up with him and Finley didn't catch it... the LB was there making a dive at it... but really it was a drop.

I couldn't figure out why in the heck Finley slowed down... it wasn't the pass... but he's slowing down A LOT now when ever he looks back. He didn't used to... he used to be able to run full speed while looking back just like some of the WRs. I don't know what's changed or why it's changed, but it has...


That sounds like bad rhythm with the QB. Unsure of where and when the ball is gonna be coming out
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Offline wpr  
#7 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 8:03:31 PM(UTC)
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I am so ready to Fin to have a breakout game. It would be good for him and the team to see Finley the Beast once again.
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#8 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 9:59:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
I noticed something in the Jags game, Finley was one on one with a LB, killed the LB on a route he ran, turned his head which slowed his speed down to less than half speed... Rodgers threw the ball ahead of Finley... LB caught up with him and Finley didn't catch it... the LB was there making a dive at it... but really it was a drop.

I couldn't figure out why in the heck Finley slowed down... it wasn't the pass... but he's slowing down A LOT now when ever he looks back. He didn't used to... he used to be able to run full speed while looking back just like some of the WRs. I don't know what's changed or why it's changed, but it has...


Could also be a result of that shoulder injury. Might limit his twisting mobility and the extra effort to do so may result in a slow down.
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#9 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 10:15:02 PM(UTC)
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I just re-watched the Finley highlights from the 2009 playoff game against the Cardinals. I've been very hard and down on Finley lately, but I must say: WOW! What an amazing dominant performance he had that night. I almost forgot what the guy is (was?) capable of. He was either running wide open or was completely covered up yet still caught the passes.

How I wish we could see that talent consistently in Finley. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we ever will again though, at least not at that level. And especially with any consistency. He may be able to get close to that level again, but it might require a change of scenery and a fresh start.
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#10 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 10:36:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
I just re-watched the Finley highlights from the 2009 playoff game against the Cardinals. I've been very hard and down on Finley lately, but I must say: WOW! What an amazing dominant performance he had that night. I almost forgot what the guy is (was?) capable of. He was either running wide open or was completely covered up yet still caught the passes.

How I wish we could see that talent consistently in Finley. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we ever will again though, at least not at that level. And especially with any consistency. He may be able to get close to that level again, but it might require a change of scenery and a fresh start.


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Offline doddpower  
#11 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2012 11:26:59 PM(UTC)
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Here's the link. Not exactly sure how to embed the video at this moment. I'm sure there is a higher quality video somewhere, but I haven't found it yet. The playoff game is at the end of the video, naturally.



Finley 2009 Highlights
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Offline Pack93z  
#12 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 6:10:35 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
Here's the link. Not exactly sure how to embed the video at this moment. I'm sure there is a higher quality video somewhere, but I haven't found it yet. The playoff game is at the end of the video, naturally.



Finley 2009 Highlights


Look in the [BB/] box.. first choice in there is the youtube tags.. insert youtube url. That should do it.

Then check mail..


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Offline wpr  
#13 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 6:34:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Look in the [BB/] box.. first choice in there is the youtube tags.. insert youtube url. That should do it.

Then check mail..


bb link for you tube stopped working for me a couple of weeks ago.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 7:03:48 AM(UTC)
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Anyone notice the bottom right corner of that video?
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#15 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 8:27:48 AM(UTC)
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I'm glad to see the positive communication between McCarthy and Finley...hope it helps. That's something I could never understand with Sherman, it seemed he didn't want to talk to players - see McKenzie and Walker. As stated, a breakout game for Finley this weekend would be huge.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 9:50:54 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
Could also be a result of that shoulder injury. Might limit his twisting mobility and the extra effort to do so may result in a slow down.


Originally Posted by: Rios39 Go to Quoted Post
That sounds like bad rhythm with the QB. Unsure of where and when the ball is gonna be coming out


I don't think it's the shoulder or bad rhythm. I don't see why they not effecting him when he runs his routes but suddenly make his legs get slower when he looks at back for the ball. It might be the unsure when and where the ball is coming, because I think it's more of a mental/effort thing with Finley and not finishing his routes and keeping up his speed.

I think we saw something like this with Jennings the Super Bowl year... at the start of the year Mike McCarthy change the passing game to focus around the TE (Finley), and Jennings wasn't finishing his routes because he was upset the ball wasn't coming his way no more. When Finley went down, they tried to do it with Quarless but it didn't work so they went back to focus around the WRs... and Jennings started finishing his routes again.

I think Finley just isn't believing he's going to get it... and well between he's slowing down and drops he's not...
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#17 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:08:09 AM(UTC)
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...I don't get it...finish your route...use your God given talent...you're a professional...or at least you should be. Young people just don't appreciate what they have. I know I didn't!LOL
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#18 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:23:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Anyone notice the bottom right corner of that video?


These videos are actually how I found this website. The dude who created them, his name is in the bottom left of the videos, used to chill in #Packers with me on gamesurge. Had he not created those videos and posted them in the channel all the time I would have never found this place.

edit: hmm. just did a search for that name under this website's members list. I wonder what his username was on here, because the search came up empty.

edit2: i think it might be this guy:
http://packershome.com/y...--Finley-Highlights.aspx
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edit3: yea it was this guy, the proof is in the link:
http://packershome.com/y...as--Exclusive-Video.aspx

you should see when his last login was, zero

edit4:
Last Visit: about 12 hours ago

WHAT THE HELL WHY DON'T YOU POST ANYMORE NICK

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#19 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:36:17 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
These videos are actually how I found this website. The dude who created them, his name is in the bottom left of the videos, used to chill in #Packers with me on gamesurge. Had he not created those videos and posted them in the channel all the time I would have never found this place.


He sought permission pretty long time ago and I said as long as the watermark in the corner stays, I see no issue. Free advertising as far as I see it. Big Grin
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#20 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 1:39:15 PM(UTC)
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#21 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 2:10:05 PM(UTC)
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...I don't get it...finish your route...use your God given talent...you're a professional...or at least you should be. Young people just don't appreciate what they have. I know I didn't!LOL


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