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Gaycandybacon  
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:50:43 PM(UTC)
I thought from what I saw, TJ played well at Tackle. Better than expected...
Do you think he's better suited for tackle than guard?

Also, shout out to Evan Dietrich Smith. He's a great backup for us.
Rios39  
#2 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:01:18 PM(UTC)
He allowed one sacks to rodgers but looked solid for sure. We didn't drop back as much as usual though.
nerdmann  
#3 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:10:03 PM(UTC)
It was a toss up where to play him, but neither Bulaga or Newhouse are capable of moving inside.

Lang has short arms.
gbguy20  
#4 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:38:40 PM(UTC)
fuckin guy and his midget arms

cannot play with em

cannot win with em

cannot coach with em

can't do it
Gaycandybacon  
#5 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:51:54 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
fuckin guy and his midget arms

cannot play with em

cannot win with em

cannot coach with em

can't do it


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zombieslayer  
#6 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:57:53 PM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
I thought from what I saw, TJ played well at Tackle. Better than expected...
Do you think he's better suited for tackle than guard?

Also, shout out to Evan Dietrich Smith. He's a great backup for us.


EDS seemed to hold up pretty well. Someone who has good run analysis can do a recap better than I could, but it seemed to me that EDS had some good run blocking today.
beast  
#7 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:35:36 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
fuckin guy and his midget arms

cannot play with em

cannot win with em

cannot coach with em

can't do it


[roflmao] Normal things don't make me laugh out loud... that one got me to ThumpUp

doddpower  
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:42:42 PM(UTC)
Apparently Bulaga has "short arms," too.
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:50:47 PM(UTC)
The sack was on the Packers first offensive play of the game and from a quick look, I think it was on Jeff Saturday. I'm recording 60 minutes so the reviewing of the game video was a little jerky.
beast  
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:56:49 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
It was a toss up where to play him, but neither Bulaga or Newhouse are capable of moving inside.

Lang has short arms.


Bulaga can move inside... he was competing for LG his rookie year and a lot of people thought he won it but got injured and they kept Colledge there... then Tausher got hurt and moved him to RT.

That being said a fully healthy Bulaga is the best OL we currently got and therefor wouldn't want to move him inside.

I haven't seen Newhouse on the inside lately... last time I did, he couldn't keep guys out of his chest pads (which is very bad)... he didn't have the power needed to play inside, and lot of it was horrible technique with his arms getting very little power from his core. Unless he's got that fix (which I haven't seen much power from him at OT) then he probably still can't play inside well.



Lang is a tweener... OG size but natural OT movement and style. My thoughts is that on a run first team, Lang should be an OT. But he's not on a run first team... he's played some OT for the Packers when needed and for the most part I've liked it a lot... but he's struggled against speed rushers like Jared Allen and Osi Umenyiora... but did great in the run game at OT.

In the Bears playoff game, Kuhn run into Clifton which hurt Clifton, and Lang got to get 3 drives against Peppers... first remember Peppers was already warmed up and ready to go, Lang was just getting warmed up.

First drive Mike McCarthy called a lot of pass plays and Peppers kept beating Lang. (which most people remembered)

Second drives don't remember the calls but Lang held his own and Peppers was a non-factor.

Third drive Mike McCarthy call a good bit of running plays and Lang man handle Peppers pushing him where ever the heck he wanted him both on run and pass plays...

So when not against speed rushers I like Lang at OT and I think he can handle his own just fine... and some of that against speed rushers I think was with some sort of injury so he might be able to keep up with them fully healthy. Clearly I'd like a healthy Bulaga first... but I thought Lang did a better job at LT his first shot at it then Newhouse did in his first shot at it (which was during his rookie season in 2009)

But I might not be remembering everything equally between Lang and Newhouse as one happened last year and the other happen a couple years ago.... and 2009 was when Rodgers was sacked 50 times... but that's probably because Tausher missed 8 games, Clifton missed 4 games and wasn't 100% when he came back... and we had Lang and Colledge at the OTs for a short while if I remember right. Two OGs playing OT...

DakotaT  
#11 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 6:32:50 PM(UTC)
If I had my way, and I never get my way, our O-line would be:

Sherrod - LT
Bulaga - LG
TJ Lang - C
Sitton - RG
Newhouse - RT

beast  
#12 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 6:41:13 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
If I had my way, and I never get my way, our O-line would be:
Sherrod - LT
Bulaga - LG
TJ Lang - C
Sitton - RG
Newhouse - RT


It's be interesting having a player that didn't know how to snap the ball well playing Center... based off what I've seen from the Cowboys with a couple of bad Centers.... not fun at all unless you enjoy the QB scrambling for the ball and defenders diving for the ball...

Someone asked Sitton if he or Lang could be the future Center with Wells leaving... Sitton made a joke and basically said if ether of them have to snap the ball they're going to be in trouble... because nether of them do it well.

Also why are you putting the best pass protector (Bulaga) at OG? ...
DakotaT  
#13 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 6:49:31 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
It's be interesting having a player that didn't know how to snap the ball well playing Center... based off what I've seen from the Cowboys with a couple of bad Centers.... not fun at all unless you enjoy the QB scrambling for the ball and defenders diving for the ball...

Someone asked Sitton if he or Lang could be the future Center with Wells leaving... Sitton made a joke and basically said if ether of them have to snap the ball they're going to be in trouble... because nether of them do it well.

Also why are you putting the best pass protector (Bulaga) at OG? ...


Because the last time the Packers were able to run the ball, their best lineman (Wahle) was a converted tackle playing LG. And I also think, Bulaga looks more like a guard than a tackle. Sherrod is a natural LT, and I think Newhouse would play better on the right side.

It really doesn't matter though because as long as they have dogshit James Campen as their coach, this line will never be top rated. We are very lucky to have so much talent at the skilled positions, cause ugly football would not be successful for us like it is in Chicago.



zombieslayer  
#14 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:08:21 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Because the last time the Packers were able to run the ball, their best lineman (Wahle) was a converted tackle playing LG. And I also think, Bulaga looks more like a guard than a tackle. Sherrod is a natural LT, and I think Newhouse would play better on the right side.

It really doesn't matter though because as long as they have dogshit James Campen as their coach, this line will never be top rated. We are very lucky to have so much talent at the skilled positions, cause ugly football would not be successful for us like it is in Chicago.





I changed what I want for Christmas. I was going to have a red-head come over and do a table dance, but I think this year, I'd rather see Campen get fired.
gbguy20  
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:14:42 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
[roflmao] Normal things don't make me laugh out loud... that one got me to ThumpUp



I am so glad someone understood.
beast  
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:21:19 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
I changed what I want for Christmas. I was going to have a red-head come over and do a table dance, but I think this year, I'd rather see Campen get fired.


Question... who do you want to see get hired for his spot? ...

Normally Mike McCarthy seems to prefer to upgrade from with in... at least on offense. My guess is Mike McCarthy would hire a former Saints Center... both Jerry Fontenot (TE coach) and Joel Hilgenberg (Assistant OL coach) are form Saints Centers. Though I haven't been happy with the TEs this year... other than Crabtree...
PackFanWithTwins  
#17 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:42:32 PM(UTC)
This is what is I like how the Packers have built the line. Newhouse, Lang, Sitton, Bulaga, Barclay were all Tackles, so we are very flexible when injury happens. IMO, it is much easier for a Tackle to move inside to play G if needed, than it is for a Guard to move out to play Tackle.

For an FYI.

Lang's arms are 32 3/4" Bulaga arms are 33 1/4" Clifton's were 33'.
zombieslayer  
#18 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:44:39 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
Question... who do you want to see get hired for his spot? ...

Normally Mike McCarthy seems to prefer to upgrade from with in... at least on offense. My guess is Mike McCarthy would hire a former Saints Center... both Jerry Fontenot (TE coach) and Joel Hilgenberg (Assistant OL coach) are form Saints Centers. Though I haven't been happy with the TEs this year... other than Crabtree...


The way you talk about OL, you'd know more than I would. I'd back whatever you'd say. I just know enough to know that Campen is incompetent. I did a post about a week ago about every single OL that Ted Thompson has drafted and it's VERY clear that Ted Thompson is off the hook. Ted Thompson has done his job. It's someone else's fault that they're not being developed.
RajiRoar  
#19 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 8:46:04 PM(UTC)
our OL was fine today.. Rodgers needs to not hold the ball all day or get some checkdowns going.
beast  
#20 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:00:34 PM(UTC)
I still don't understates why people want to put the worst guys at OT and the better guys on the inside... people understand the OTs are the ones that stop Allen, Peppers and all of the other 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLB from drilling Rodgers into the ground on most plays right?


zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
The way you talk about OL, you'd know more than I would. I'd back whatever you'd say. I just know enough to know that Campen is incompetent. I did a post about a week ago about every single OL that Ted Thompson has drafted and it's VERY clear that Ted Thompson is off the hook. Ted Thompson has done his job. It's someone else's fault that they're not being developed.


Na I just know Mike McCarthy would probably promote from with in and those would be the first couple of options as former or current OL guys.

As for OL coaches, Gary Kubiak (Texans head coach) has been GREAT with them. Might be nice to have someone that knows him well and could do the same thing. Also Kirk Ferentz (Iowa head coach)... Ferentz has some connections with Belichick. Ferentz son Brian Ferentz worked for the Patriots from 2008 until 2011... was the TE coach in 2011 (those TEs did well that year).... in 2012 became the OL coach for Iowa. Not sure if he's be interested or good... but might be an interesting option.
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