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steveishere  
#21 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:39:01 PM(UTC)
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zombieslayer  
#22 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:50:17 PM(UTC)
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GB has beaten two 7-1 teams decisively. I'll take that over only blowing out bottom feeders. With all the injuries to significant players right now I'll take wins. As long as you make the playoffs how you played week to week in November means absolutely nothing.

Look at all the teams that have been winning the Superbowl (which is the point). Pretty much none of them were super consistent during the year, that's the way the NFL works. I know Packer fans like to think that the players on their team are significantly better than everyone else and they should destroy every team they face but in reality there are not huge talent discrepancies from team to team. The only thing that matters about the regular season is making the playoffs.


If we count blowouts as 20+ pt wins, let's look at the last SB winners.
'99 Rams (the greatest show on turf) - 9
'00 Ravens - 4
'01 Pats - 3
'02 Bucs - 3
'03 Pats - 2 (although the team had 3 shutouts)
'04 Pats - 3
'05 Steelers - 3
'06 Colts - 1
'07 Giants - 1
'08 Steelers - 4
'09 Saints - 4
'10 Packers - 4
'11 Giants - 0

So the only team that didn't have a blowout was the Giants. In the previous 4 years, 3 teams had 4 blowouts.

We got 0 so far. I'd love to make 2010 the blueprint to how we should go.

Now let's look at the 4 Packers SB teams.
'66 Packers - 3
'67 Packers - 3
'96 Packers - 7
'10 Packers - 4

So yeah, we should shoot for blowouts. It seems like historically, when the Packers blowout opponents, it leads to good things.
steveishere  
#23 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:27:39 PM(UTC)
20 seems like a pretty arbitrary number but I don't see what number of blowouts has to do with consistency. Like I said I'll take the decisive victorys over otherwise undefeated teams over a string of "blowouts" over bottom feeders. Pretty much any past Superbowl winners have had losses to bad teams or close games to bad teams.

The 2010 team struggled and were a little lucky to even make the playoffs (even with all of those "blowouts"). That doesn't look like a great blueprint to me.
zombieslayer  
#24 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 6:58:21 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
20 seems like a pretty arbitrary number but I don't see what number of blowouts has to do with consistency. Like I said I'll take the decisive victorys over otherwise undefeated teams over a string of "blowouts" over bottom feeders. Pretty much any past Superbowl winners have had losses to bad teams or close games to bad teams.

The 2010 team struggled and were a little lucky to even make the playoffs (even with all of those "blowouts"). That doesn't look like a great blueprint to me.


I think the best stat of all is still Passer Rating Differential. I don't have the stats on that.

However, I showed that SB winners often slaughter teams and the NY Giants of '11 were the only exception in the past 12 years. I don't know how that's a stat that can be overlooked. That's 11 of 12 teams.

Let's also take the '85 Bears. Arguably the most dominant team of the SB era. 6 blowouts in regular season + 3 in the Playoffs.

I'd MUCH rather use them for a blueprint than the 2011 Giants. I think if you surveyed 100 Packers fans, at least 95 would say the same.
Zero2Cool  
#25 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:10:19 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
I think the best stat of all is still Passer Rating Differential. I don't have the stats on that.


Check the stickied thread on this category. It has a lot of useful quick links.



And yes, I would rather the Packers have a punishing menacing defense than one that pressures its own offense to play catch up that ultimately leaves opponents within winning reach at times.
zombieslayer  
#26 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 7:20:18 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Check the stickied thread on this category. It has a lot of useful quick links.



And yes, I would rather the Packers have a punishing menacing defense than one that pressures its own offense to play catch up that ultimately leaves opponents within winning reach at times.


Thanks. That's one sweet page. I could get lost on that page for days. =d>

And yes, I wish our D was more punishing. Thus, Mike McCarthy needs to punch Dom in the ding ding every time he rushes 3. ](*,)

If I'm not mistaken, Mike McCarthy is very hands off when it comes to the D and just lets Dom do his thing, so Dom's the one to blame for that stupid 3 man rush.

We were starting to get pressure on Skelton today. Then Dom decided to rush 3. I wasn't too pissed because we weren't threatened today. Still, I want to see the Packers blow somebody out.
steveishere  
#27 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 8:38:52 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
I think the best stat of all is still Passer Rating Differential. I don't have the stats on that.

However, I showed that SB winners often slaughter teams and the NY Giants of '11 were the only exception in the past 12 years. I don't know how that's a stat that can be overlooked. That's 11 of 12 teams.

Let's also take the '85 Bears. Arguably the most dominant team of the SB era. 6 blowouts in regular season + 3 in the Playoffs.

I'd MUCH rather use them for a blueprint than the 2011 Giants. I think if you surveyed 100 Packers fans, at least 95 would say the same.


Why is 20 points the standard for "blowouts" why is blowout more significant than just a decisive victory? If you switch your number to 10 points the 2010 team had 5 and this years team already has 4.
zombieslayer  
#28 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:38:21 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Why is 20 points the standard for "blowouts" why is blowout more significant than just a decisive victory? If you switch your number to 10 points the 2010 team had 5 and this years team already has 4.


10 points is recoverable in a matter of minutes. 20 points, it's rare that anyone will recover from that deficit. It happens, but it's rare.

I've heard people say 14 points is a blowout, but I don't even like 14 points. I've watched too much football to be comfortable with a 14 point lead.
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