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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 1:01:28 PM(UTC)
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Only downside is. Jones is a FA after this season. I like him inside, but i dont think we can keep him unless we let Bishop go. DJ is a minimal contract, and we would not gain any space letting Hawk go.
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Only downside is. Jones is a FA after this season. I like him inside, but i dont think we can keep him unless we let Bishop go. DJ is a minimal contract, and we would not gain any space letting Hawk go.


Jones is a low priority. Maybe they'll cut Hawk and keep him, but we've also got Manning there. Plenty of depth.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 10:06:26 PM(UTC)
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Jones is a low priority. Maybe they'll cut Hawk and keep him, but we've also got Manning there. Plenty of depth.


There is no benefit from cutting Hawk. If we cut him, we gain a prorated SB hit as large as his salary. It will come down to, Jones performance compared to Bishop. If Jones is determined to be better, Bishop could be traded for little cap hit at all.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:04:41 PM(UTC)
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It's not like Jones is going to cost all that much to resign.
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There is no benefit from cutting Hawk. If we cut him, we gain a prorated SB hit as large as his salary. It will come down to, Jones performance compared to Bishop. If Jones is determined to be better, Bishop could be traded for little cap hit at all.


Haven't we learned by now that we need 10 linebackers in this defense. And when it is time to play, you better be ready to rock. I don't understand the obsession with who starts.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:13:23 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Jones is a low priority. Maybe they'll cut Hawk and keep him, but we've also got Manning there. Plenty of depth.


Getting ahead of myself, but I'm anxious to see his(Manning) improvement next year, along with Richardson.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:16:13 AM(UTC)
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It's not like Jones is going to cost all that much to resign.


How much is not all that much? Jones keeps playing, and it will be the same situation as Barnett going down and Bishop taking over. And that scored Bishop a 4yr/20mil deal and sent Barnett packing. What would Jones be 2 years later? 4 at 21 or 22?

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Haven't we learned by now that we need 10 linebackers in this defense. And when it is time to play, you better be ready to rock. I don't understand the obsession with who starts.


Sure we need LBers, but we also need to have space to afford them. With the contracts that will be coming due, Rodgers, Matthews, Raji and others. Would we be able to afford haveing 3-5 million riding the pine? Or do we let one go or trade and bring in another youngster, that can step in when needed and only cost 1/2 mill.

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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
How much is not all that much? Jones keeps playing, and it will be the same situation as Barnett going down and Bishop taking over. And that scored Bishop a 4yr/20mil deal and sent Barnett packing. What would Jones be 2 years later? 4 at 21 or 22?



Sure we need LBers, but we also need to have space to afford them. With the contracts that will be coming due, Rodgers, Matthews, Raji and others. Would we be able to afford haveing 3-5 million riding the pine? Or do we let one go or trade and bring in another youngster, that can step in when needed and only cost 1/2 mill.



Well, I guess if Jones is playing up to Bishop's level you have a good argument. I haven't paid much attention to him I guess.
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Getting ahead of myself, but I'm anxious to see his(Manning) improvement next year, along with Richardson.


If Clay and Nick are down for a significant period of time, I might try bulking Richardson up and putting him at OLB.

Yeah, I'm crazy.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:21:41 PM(UTC)
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If Clay and Nick are down for a significant period of time, I might try bulking Richardson up and putting him at OLB.

Yeah, I'm crazy.


What makes you think the guy would have any pass rushing skills whatsoever? I think he needs to focus on safety. I really like his size and strength.

Mathews has dealt with hamstring issues throughout his NFL career. After 2-4 weeks, I imagine he should be able to return. It might limit his effectiveness though. The Packers have shown they can win with Walden at LOLB, and Zombo is decent depth. As long as Mathews comes back, they should be fine. The area they could use players to step up the most is along the defensive line. It looks like Neal is improving, so perhaps that will help.
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