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Pack93z  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:56:21 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I thought Scott Well or Josh Sitton went to the Pro Bowl?


Scott Wells - Drafted 2004. Went to the pro bowl 2011 as a reserve.

Sitton was an Alternate in 2010. Not a Primary player. And he was an alternate to the alternate.
play2win  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:08:44 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I am not saying he has drafted horrible players, but it is slightly alarming that we haven't drafted a single pro bowl player in that span.

I stand by my conviction that Campen cannot develop consistent talent worth a pinch.


I'm not a huge Campen fan either, but he sure had his guys ready when Bulaga went down. Didn't miss a beat. EDS may prove to be a very good addition to our OL. I LOVE that his first game starting this year will be against the Lions...
wpr  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:16:43 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
For prespective on the Pro Bowl thing...

Between 2005 and 2009... 218 offensive lineman were drafted. Only 18 of those lineman have been voted to a Pro Bowl. 7.8 % of the players selected have made the Pro Bowl. 10 of those 17 were drafted in Round 1.


that is a part of the problem with using the PB as a yardstick of success. The players and fans keep voting the same ones in year after year. Even if someone has an off year people will vote for him out of habit and because we don't have good stats for OL along with the lack of knowledge on the part of many people as to who the OL are. If you stand outside any stadium on Sunday before the game and asked the fans who the OL for the other team I would say 80% of them can not name more than 2. So how can we expect them to know who the best linemen in the league are.
RajiRoar  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:21:47 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I thought Scott Well or Josh Sitton went to the Pro Bowl?


he got O-lineman of the year from NFL alum.

Pack93z  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:41:12 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
that is a part of the problem with using the PB as a yardstick of success. The players and fans keep voting the same ones in year after year. Even if someone has an off year people will vote for him out of habit and because we don't have good stats for OL along with the lack of knowledge on the part of many people as to who the OL are. If you stand outside any stadium on Sunday before the game and asked the fans who the OL for the other team I would say 80% of them can not name more than 2. So how can we expect them to know who the best linemen in the league are.


Agreed.. hence why All Pro and # of Games Played have been included. This is without getting into the metrics of play type information.
Wade  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:47:33 PM(UTC)
Under-rated?

Ahem. Er, no.

If anything, they are over-rated. Yes, they are better at pass blocking than at run blocking (though it wouldn't take a whole lot). But were it not for Rodgers' and his running/scrambling ability, they'd have double the sacks they've actually given up. So, IMO, even just looking at their pass blocking, they still are mired in the average/serviceable category.

(This opinion of mine, of course, surprises no one.)

IMO, Ted is really good at almost everything he does. But I think the Packers ability to scout/choose OL is probably his (and the scouting department's, generally) is his biggest weakness.
nerdmann  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:22:35 PM(UTC)
Earlier in his tenure, Mike McCarthy was ASKING for "smaller, quicker" linemen to fit this idiotic zBS bullshit.

Since they've been hybridizing that more, Ted has been allowed to go get "bigger, stronger" guys, and he's done far better.
PackerTraxx  
#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:42:16 AM(UTC)
I hope they're under rated, that that means they can do better, whether it's with a new coach or not, whatever it takes. I would really like to see them get really good not only for production but for Aaron's health. Right now they need to get the Oline healthy and Ted Thompson has to continue to do his job by adding depth and drafting over what we have when possible.
Rios39  
#29 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:17:32 AM(UTC)
Saturday was on the nfl network before the Arizona game and he said they were giving up too many sacks BUT they realize this is going to happen a bit cause we are trying to hold the ball and make some plays down the field. I feel we only get the ball out quick when it's our only option and Rodgers hits the turf 4-5 times.
nerdmann  
#30 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:24:24 PM(UTC)
Rios39 said: Go to Quoted Post
Saturday was on the nfl network before the Arizona game and he said they were giving up too many sacks BUT they realize this is going to happen a bit cause we are trying to hold the ball and make some plays down the field. I feel we only get the ball out quick when it's our only option and Rodgers hits the turf 4-5 times.


Arodge=stats whore.

I hope he "takes that to heart" and proves me wrong.
buckeyepackfan  
#31 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 4:21:40 PM(UTC)
I'm confused, what is topic?

Packers O-line is better than some on this forum give them credit for.

When you replace your starting C of 4 years and have to replace your starting LT, there are going to be growing pains.

Saturday admitted in week 6 he was just getting comfortable with the C position in Green Bay.

Now with Bulaga going down, here comes a couple of more changes, prob. gonna be some mistakes made.

Ask Aaron Rodgers if he would want nay other line to play in front of him, I'd bet the house he would answer he is quite happy with what The Packers have.

I hope I'm in the right thread? Not sure, all I see are posts about defenses????????
Zero2Cool  
#32 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 4:39:18 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I hope I'm in the right thread? Not sure, all I see are posts about defenses????????

Sorry, been busying picking up the pieces after blowing a phone interview for a good job today. I'll clean it up.
buckeyepackfan  
#33 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 5:00:42 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Sorry, been busying picking up the pieces after blowing a phone interview for a good job today. I'll clean it up.


Work is much more important!! I figured it out. lol

They didn't want you, their loss.
nerdmann  
#34 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 6:00:36 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Work is much more important!! I figured it out. lol

They didn't want you, their loss.


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