now that right there is an offensive remark!!

My brother says: "Romney spent $800m+ to not be President. I spent nothing for the same result. Who's the better business man now?"

It's funny how my name gets mentioned when i'm not here.
I wasn't here cause i can't afford computer hookup at home.

Obama won.....let's see how happy all his supporters will be 4 years from now. He already proved he didn't have to follow through on ANY of his promises and still got reelected.
He, the Clintons, and all their hollywood supporters ARE the "rich guys" his supporters rail on about. But he fooled you all into thinking he's "one of us".
Obama is a lame duck pres, and now doesn't have to worry about consequences to his actions, as he doesn't have to worry about reelection.
It will be interesting to see how far left he will take the country now.

Isn't it funny how childish some people act?

Seriously, had Romney won, i wouldn't have been throwing insults at the posters here that love Obama.
Last i checked, (as of today, that is) it's still a free country, and we are free to vote for who we want to vote for.
The "na na, my guy won, your guy lost" reminds me more of the trolls that used to come here when their team beat the Packers.
That's where that kind of stuff belongs.

As i said in many posts, Obama did NOT follow through on his promises from the last 4 years. So i think we pretty much know what his plans are for the next 4 years.
If i'm wrong on this, i haven't seen anything to prove otherwise.

If that was what you wanted, well, you got it. The national debt will probably be well over 20 trillion dollars by the end of his next term. Maybe even higher. I sure haven't seen anything that would make me believe otherwise.

The funny thing is.....i don't have any children, so i don't HAVE to "care" where the country will be in 30 years. I'll probably be dead, so why should i care?
But you people that have young children SHOULD have seen what Obama did as far as the debt goes, and been concerned how it will affect YOUR children's future. I guess that's what surprises me the most.

But hey.....you will get what you asked for in the end.

Are you sure about that? I've certainly heard differently. I quickly found one article, perhaps it's wrong. I've definitely heard the same thing on other news networks as well. I'm sure they were all just a bunch of lying liberals though. Source:



There's obviously absolutely no doubt they both received a ton of outside money, and it's truly embarrassing and humiliating how much money was spent (as I stated earlier). However, it was true that Democrats were generally against Citizens United, including Obama. It was a huge deal and those opposed to it continually stated why there were against it: Because it would result in unimaginable amounts of money poured into campaigns. Romney certainly got out to an early lead, and naturally Democrats/Obama had no choice but to follow. It's also true that Romney's donations were much more concentrated to a few HUGE donors. Obama had his share of big donors relatively speaking, but his campaign was much more grassroots and involved many, many more smaller donors. I don't have time to find a link now, but there were at least a few individuals that donated $100 million + to the Romney campaign (Koch brothers, et al.). He literally crushed Obama in terms of 'big time donors.' It's also interesting that only 12% of Obama's money came from Super Pacs, which basically means undisclosed donors, vs. 40% per Romney.

Quickly came across this blurb:



The last sentence of that quote is exactly why Republicans and several Democrats wanted Citizen United to pass: because it allowed them to keep their donors a secret. Perhaps some don't have any problem with that, but certainly many others do. Obama clearly benefited from Super Pacs, but at least he acted like he didn't want it in the public eye. Besides, that's all most politicians do is act anyway; only some do it better than others.

Either way, it's absolutely inexcusable how much money was spent on this election and I have little to no respect for either campaign as a result. I agree, American politics, especially the Presidential race, is a complete joke. It's too bad so many still buy into the facade, though. It's becoming little more than a theatrical show meant to divide America and give them a false sense of a "choice" about the direction of the Country. Unfortunately, any Republican or Democrat elected to office in the foreseeable future is largely going to pursue similar agendas regardless of what is said in front of a camera. Any small differences that exist are minimal, and almost all decisions are not good for us 'average Joe's and Joelene's." Moreover, both parties in America are criminals, as far as I'm concerned.

That number I threw out there was an arbitrary number. You helped prove my point, though, that BOTH parties gain mega bucks from SuperPACs and other sources.

I thought you guys were friends? Friends don't like making other friends' heads hurt. Here, let me fix this image in a way that certain people are going to read it anyways:

I'm OK with someone making similar points as shown in the image. Such things and much more could be made for any potential president and most politicians period. The problem is, there are many people who would slam Obama for his many faults, but then rush and vote for Romney. It truly works both ways. If one truly has their eyes open, they wouldn't be supporting either Obama or Romney. Slamming one guy and rushing to vote for the other just doesn't make any sense. At least vote for the Independent, the Green party, Ron Paul, or Rosanne Barr (joke), or write someone in. There are some people in the world that could make good presidents. The only problem is, in order to actually have an opportunity to become president, he or she must sell themselves out to the system and adopt the agendas of those who actually guide their decisions.

I'm often reminded of a cliche' statement that can kinda-sorta apply to presidents/politicians/american politics: "Don't hate the player, hate the game." The people in front of our eyes are just another face and another name. When they're gone, they'll simply be replaced with another.

Yes, I'm cynical. It's hard to see how most wouldn't be.