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Offline 4PackGirl  
#271 Posted : Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:53:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Sometimes you guys act like such girls.


now that right there is an offensive remark!! Big Grin

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Offline Wade  
#272 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:28:27 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Coming from a guy that can't think past the end of his nose, this is not even an insult. Can't wait for that stupid Tparty to obliverated from national politics.



The "Republican" wing of the tea party, maybe.

But the Sam Adams wing is only going to grow.

Which of course would get us perilously close to your "guillotine" story coming actually about, since today's Americans are closer to the illiterate French peasants of 1789 than they have been to the highly literate Adams and Paine, and their national "leaders" closer to Robispierre than to Jefferson.

Methinks it is time to sell part of the fountain pen collection and find somewhere where I can spend a couple weekends a month at a shooting range. Wants v. needs, right, zombieslayer?

Crap.
None of the above. It wouldn't have been a wasted vote. Obama and Romney -- Those were the wasted votes.
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#273 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:33:22 AM(UTC)
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My brother says: "Romney spent $800m+ to not be President. I spent nothing for the same result. Who's the better business man now?"

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#274 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:13:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
My brother says: "Romney spent $800m+ to not be President. I spent nothing for the same result. Who's the better business man now?"


Should we consider, that it wasn't his money?

I need to figure out how to get people to pay for me to travel the country doing nothing but talking and sight seeing.
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#275 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:04:57 PM(UTC)
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It's funny how my name gets mentioned when i'm not here.
I wasn't here cause i can't afford computer hookup at home.

Obama won.....let's see how happy all his supporters will be 4 years from now. He already proved he didn't have to follow through on ANY of his promises and still got reelected.
He, the Clintons, and all their hollywood supporters ARE the "rich guys" his supporters rail on about. But he fooled you all into thinking he's "one of us".
Obama is a lame duck pres, and now doesn't have to worry about consequences to his actions, as he doesn't have to worry about reelection.
It will be interesting to see how far left he will take the country now.
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Offline Formo  
#276 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:52:34 PM(UTC)
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OoOoOoOOoOH, lemmie break this down for you in cute, little bite sizes pieces so you can understand..

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Holy shit are you retarded.


Maybe, but far less than you, and apparently 99% of 'Merica, sir.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Go cry in your beer for four more year.


My sobriety says this is impossible. But, I will cry in my drink, but much to your dismay, I would have cried in my drink the same if Romney won. Sooo.. Your point?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Your asstard racist tea party has been slapped and sent to bed.


What?! You mean the Republicans have been slapped and sent to bed. It was the political game-playing GOP that lost this race, not the Tea Partiers. I'll ignore the racist comment to prevent further spreading of the flame-fest.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
And yes, Obama's landslide victory last night made losers out of Superpacks.


50% of the SuperPACs. The Democrats and Obama get just as much money from them as the GOP does.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Can you say rope-a-dope - cause those billionairs got knocked the fuck out last night. Let them cry like the pussy bitches that they are.


Rope-a-dope. Yup. I can say it. Again, pointless sentences.

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Fuck you Porforis.


Haha!

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I stood alone the last two years against all of you and took more shit than anybody.


HAHAH!! No, you haven't.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
If you can't take that I'm right on certain things, go examine your own head.


OMG, you keep getting funnier, sir! The only thing you are right on is how lucky you are with your family. I envy you in that aspect. And only that aspect.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I'm gonna gloat today. This president has taken more shit from uneducated people that do not respect his office, and I'm happy for him today.


Gloat. It's your freedom to do so. This president has earned much of the shit thrown his way. And maybe some from those who do not respect his office, but guarantee you that most is from those who DO, which why they give him shit.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
No it means you Fox News watchers live in a bubble. Nothing gets in.


Everyone of us that you call 'Fox News watchers' don't watch Fox News. Generalizations are bad, mmmk?

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Ann Coulter once wrote a book "How to talk to a liberal if you have to." Those roles have now been reversed, only the new book should be called "Why would you even talk to a Tea Party person?"


Ignorance is bliss, right?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
My brother says: "Romney spent $800m+ to not be President. I spent nothing for the same result. Who's the better business man now?"


This made me LOL.

One more thing unrelated to the above: If you voted for Obama OR Romney.. Congratulations. You are a part of the problem, NOT the solution. Sheeple.
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#277 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:18:06 PM(UTC)
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Isn't it funny how childish some people act?

Seriously, had Romney won, i wouldn't have been throwing insults at the posters here that love Obama.
Last i checked, (as of today, that is) it's still a free country, and we are free to vote for who we want to vote for.
The "na na, my guy won, your guy lost" reminds me more of the trolls that used to come here when their team beat the Packers.
That's where that kind of stuff belongs.

As i said in many posts, Obama did NOT follow through on his promises from the last 4 years. So i think we pretty much know what his plans are for the next 4 years.
If i'm wrong on this, i haven't seen anything to prove otherwise.

If that was what you wanted, well, you got it. The national debt will probably be well over 20 trillion dollars by the end of his next term. Maybe even higher. I sure haven't seen anything that would make me believe otherwise.

The funny thing is.....i don't have any children, so i don't HAVE to "care" where the country will be in 30 years. I'll probably be dead, so why should i care?
But you people that have young children SHOULD have seen what Obama did as far as the debt goes, and been concerned how it will affect YOUR children's future. I guess that's what surprises me the most.

But hey.....you will get what you asked for in the end.
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#278 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:14:01 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Sometimes you guys act like such girls.


You're the one who's staring at our legs.

Big Grin

None of the above. It wouldn't have been a wasted vote. Obama and Romney -- Those were the wasted votes.
Offline doddpower  
#279 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:43:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Formo Go to Quoted Post
50% of the SuperPACs. The Democrats and Obama get just as much money from them as the GOP does.


Are you sure about that? I've certainly heard differently. I quickly found one article, perhaps it's wrong. I've definitely heard the same thing on other news networks as well. I'm sure they were all just a bunch of lying liberals though. Source:

Huffington Post wrote:
WASHINGTON -- Independent conservative groups are going to have to come to terms with the fact that they spent more than $700 million -- 70 percent of all of the reported independent spending in the 2012 election -- and walked away with little to show for it.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was supported by outside groups that outspent allies of President Barack Obama by $260 million. And yet he still lost.


There's obviously absolutely no doubt they both received a ton of outside money, and it's truly embarrassing and humiliating how much money was spent (as I stated earlier). However, it was true that Democrats were generally against Citizens United, including Obama. It was a huge deal and those opposed to it continually stated why there were against it: Because it would result in unimaginable amounts of money poured into campaigns. Romney certainly got out to an early lead, and naturally Democrats/Obama had no choice but to follow. It's also true that Romney's donations were much more concentrated to a few HUGE donors. Obama had his share of big donors relatively speaking, but his campaign was much more grassroots and involved many, many more smaller donors. I don't have time to find a link now, but there were at least a few individuals that donated $100 million + to the Romney campaign (Koch brothers, et al.). He literally crushed Obama in terms of 'big time donors.' It's also interesting that only 12% of Obama's money came from Super Pacs, which basically means undisclosed donors, vs. 40% per Romney.

Quickly came across this blurb:

Politico wrote:
Romney and his allies spent $1.2 billion on the race, compared with $1 billion spent by Obama and his allies, according to a POLITICO analysis of records on Federal Election Commission data and public statements. Nearly 40 percent of Team Romney’s spending came from super PACs and other unlimited outside money groups, compared with about 12 percent for Team Obama.

But the final tally for 2012 might never be known because some of the biggest spending outfits, particularly on the right, are nonprofit groups that are allowed to keep their donors and many details of their spending a secret from the public.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/...83534.html#ixzz2BfXy26M8


The last sentence of that quote is exactly why Republicans and several Democrats wanted Citizen United to pass: because it allowed them to keep their donors a secret. Perhaps some don't have any problem with that, but certainly many others do. Obama clearly benefited from Super Pacs, but at least he acted like he didn't want it in the public eye. Besides, that's all most politicians do is act anyway; only some do it better than others.

Either way, it's absolutely inexcusable how much money was spent on this election and I have little to no respect for either campaign as a result. I agree, American politics, especially the Presidential race, is a complete joke. It's too bad so many still buy into the facade, though. It's becoming little more than a theatrical show meant to divide America and give them a false sense of a "choice" about the direction of the Country. Unfortunately, any Republican or Democrat elected to office in the foreseeable future is largely going to pursue similar agendas regardless of what is said in front of a camera. Any small differences that exist are minimal, and almost all decisions are not good for us 'average Joe's and Joelene's." Moreover, both parties in America are criminals, as far as I'm concerned.
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#280 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:07:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
It's funny how my name gets mentioned when i'm not here.
I wasn't here cause i can't afford computer hookup at home.

Obama won.....let's see how happy all his supporters will be 4 years from now. He already proved he didn't have to follow through on ANY of his promises and still got reelected.
He, the Clintons, and all their hollywood supporters ARE the "rich guys" his supporters rail on about. But he fooled you all into thinking he's "one of us".
Obama is a lame duck pres, and now doesn't have to worry about consequences to his actions, as he doesn't have to worry about reelection.
It will be interesting to see how far left he will take the country now.


I like how people like you think Obama accomplished nothing in his first four years. It's actually laughable how right wingers dismiss things like affordable health care, kicking Arab terrorist ass, repealed don't ask don't tell, saved the auto industry, adjusted FEMA so that it works; and all while treasonous Republicans tried blocking everything.

The economy isn't fixed yet, but don't you think if the treasonous Republicans would have helped pass a jobs bill, we'd be a lot farther along.
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#281 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:44:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
Are you sure about that? I've certainly heard differently. I quickly found one article, perhaps it's wrong. I've definitely heard the same thing on other news networks as well. I'm sure they were all just a bunch of lying liberals though. Source:



There's obviously absolutely no doubt they both received a ton of outside money, and it's truly embarrassing and humiliating how much money was spent (as I stated earlier). However, it was true that Democrats were generally against Citizens United, including Obama. It was a huge deal and those opposed to it continually stated why there were against it: Because it would result in unimaginable amounts of money poured into campaigns. Romney certainly got out to an early lead, and naturally Democrats/Obama had no choice but to follow. It's also true that Romney's donations were much more concentrated to a few HUGE donors. Obama had his share of big donors relatively speaking, but his campaign was much more grassroots and involved many, many more smaller donors. I don't have time to find a link now, but there were at least a few individuals that donated $100 million + to the Romney campaign (Koch brothers, et al.). He literally crushed Obama in terms of 'big time donors.' It's also interesting that only 12% of Obama's money came from Super Pacs, which basically means undisclosed donors, vs. 40% per Romney.

Quickly came across this blurb:



The last sentence of that quote is exactly why Republicans and several Democrats wanted Citizen United to pass: because it allowed them to keep their donors a secret. Perhaps some don't have any problem with that, but certainly many others do. Obama clearly benefited from Super Pacs, but at least he acted like he didn't want it in the public eye. Besides, that's all most politicians do is act anyway; only some do it better than others.

Either way, it's absolutely inexcusable how much money was spent on this election and I have little to no respect for either campaign as a result. I agree, American politics, especially the Presidential race, is a complete joke. It's too bad so many still buy into the facade, though. It's becoming little more than a theatrical show meant to divide America and give them a false sense of a "choice" about the direction of the Country. Unfortunately, any Republican or Democrat elected to office in the foreseeable future is largely going to pursue similar agendas regardless of what is said in front of a camera. Any small differences that exist are minimal, and almost all decisions are not good for us 'average Joe's and Joelene's." Moreover, both parties in America are criminals, as far as I'm concerned.


That number I threw out there was an arbitrary number. You helped prove my point, though, that BOTH parties gain mega bucks from SuperPACs and other sources.
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#282 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:49:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I like how people like you think Obama accomplished nothing in his first four years. It's actually laughable how right wingers dismiss things like affordable health care, kicking Arab terrorist ass, repealed don't ask don't tell, saved the auto industry, adjusted FEMA so that it works; and all while treasonous Republicans tried blocking everything.

The economy isn't fixed yet, but don't you think if the treasonous Republicans would have helped pass a jobs bill, we'd be a lot farther along.


Wait.. SAVED the auto industry?!

That right there is reason enough to behead politicians. From both sides of the isle. The auto industry wouldn't have needed 'saving' if they ran their business right. I'm still pissed about that garbage. There's no reason, what so ever, that they should have gotten that bail out. Sure, it would hurt in the short term. That's what being in business is all about.

So you say that Obummer 'saved the auto industry' like it was a good thing.

No, sir. It isn't.

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#283 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:25:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Formo Go to Quoted Post
Wait.. SAVED the auto industry?!

That right there is reason enough to behead politicians. From both sides of the isle. The auto industry wouldn't have needed 'saving' if they ran their business right. I'm still pissed about that garbage. There's no reason, what so ever, that they should have gotten that bail out. Sure, it would hurt in the short term. That's what being in business is all about.

So you say that Obummer 'saved the auto industry' like it was a good thing.

No, sir. It isn't.

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I thought you guys were friends? Friends don't like making other friends' heads hurt. Here, let me fix this image in a way that certain people are going to read it anyways:

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#284 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:03:44 PM(UTC)
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That number I threw out there was an arbitrary number. You helped prove my point, though, that BOTH parties gain mega bucks from SuperPACs and other sources.


I wasn't trying to disprove your point. However, to say they both received equal amounts of cash from SuperPacs is far from the truth. Romney clearly received much more money from undisclosed sources and bigger donors. It was just an attempt to be accurate being saying otherwise is false.

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#285 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:11:21 PM(UTC)
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I'm OK with someone making similar points as shown in the image. Such things and much more could be made for any potential president and most politicians period. The problem is, there are many people who would slam Obama for his many faults, but then rush and vote for Romney. It truly works both ways. If one truly has their eyes open, they wouldn't be supporting either Obama or Romney. Slamming one guy and rushing to vote for the other just doesn't make any sense. At least vote for the Independent, the Green party, Ron Paul, or Rosanne Barr (joke), or write someone in. There are some people in the world that could make good presidents. The only problem is, in order to actually have an opportunity to become president, he or she must sell themselves out to the system and adopt the agendas of those who actually guide their decisions.

I'm often reminded of a cliche' statement that can kinda-sorta apply to presidents/politicians/american politics: "Don't hate the player, hate the game." The people in front of our eyes are just another face and another name. When they're gone, they'll simply be replaced with another.

Yes, I'm cynical. It's hard to see how most wouldn't be.
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