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Offline rabidgopher04  
#26 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:18:41 PM(UTC)
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Is Kaeding still available?

Crosby is good, but needs to stop hooking it. Jason Hanson doesn't have the little hook in his kicks like Crosby does. Hanson's kicks went straight in, no hook. Crosby just needs to stop hooking it.
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#27 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:21:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
You know what, STFU! You weren't alone, quit this self pat on the back as if you're fricking holier than ALL! THINK! Duh!




They were talking on the radio that if Mason Crosby misses on in the post season, that he'll be let go. That's their opinion, not based on facts of any kind. I'd like to know if the hold is bad or something. Mason won't say, unlike Ryan Longwell did very openly. I think the holds are fine and he's just hitting it bad.




You better not be talking about Mason Crosby, mother fucker. If you are talking James Jones, I'll go back to the archives.

IF you are talking Mason Crosby and bitchin' about my bitchin'... were I you, I'd shoot myself, as the whole sad brain is done from the whole crack thing you have been doin' lately...

Stop. You went to hating on him last year early. Bad game. Shit happens, he's a fucking kicker.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#28 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:30:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
You better not be talking about Mason Crosby, mother fucker. If you are talking James Jones, I'll go back to the archives.

IF you are talking Mason Crosby and bitchin' about my bitchin'... were I you, I'd shoot myself, as the whole sad brain is done from the whole crack thing you have been doin' lately...

Stop. You went to hating on him last year early. Bad game. Shit happens, he's a fucking kicker.


lol I posted stats that supported both Mason Crosby (except 50+) and James Jones. So get the buck off your high horse and show some mother trucking respect, boy!

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#29 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:49:39 PM(UTC)
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Isn't Mason Crosby's Dad, Ray Finkle?
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#30 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:51:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vikesrule Go to Quoted Post
Isn't Mason Crosby's Dad, Ray Finkle?


Oh sure, here comes the little (gay/effeminate tendencies) buzzard.



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Offline wpr  
#31 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:58:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
Oh sure, here comes the little (gay/effeminate tendencies) buzzard.





hey he is just thrilled the vikings didn't lose this week.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#32 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:01:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Heard Crosby tried to hang himself after the game.

Couldn't kick the chair out from under him.


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Sad thing is, I feel bad for the guy. He's pure talent. Just has mind issues. Like Finley. Maybe we should get both of them good shrinks so they can be awesome. (Finley was awesome today).
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Offline vikesrule  
#33 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:09:17 PM(UTC)
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This pretty much says it all about Mason Crosby......Big Grin


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#34 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:13:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vikesrule Go to Quoted Post
This pretty much says it all about Mason Crosby......Big Grin


what? that he has 2 girls on his arms and you could get a couple of young women to hang around you if you taped $100 all over you?
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#35 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:17:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
what? that he has 2 girls on his arms and you could get a couple of young women to hang around you if you taped $100 all over you?


He kicks like a girl Wayne....still pissed about being called an applaud whore, huh? Big Grin

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#36 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:21:44 PM(UTC)
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naw you are so inept it is laughable. You still can't get young women to hang on you and Crosby can.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#37 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:25:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
what? that he has 2 girls on his arms and you could get a couple of young women to hang around you if you taped $100 all over you?


Come on VR. That there is funny. Applause
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#38 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:02:00 PM(UTC)
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Those aren't KILLER California legs on those two lasses, but they are some damn good looking simple midwestern legs, and I like 'em.

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Offline IronMan  
#39 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:54:18 PM(UTC)
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I actually feel sorry for Mason. The naked pictures he has of McCarthy have obviously caused severe mental issues.
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#40 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2012 6:20:16 AM(UTC)
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It’s just like anything in life professionally: You have the opportunity to work with an individual every day and you see what they’re about, their mentality, their commitment, their preparation leading up to it. I have no reasons not to believe in him. Now, I can see your pens are all writing and I understand he’s missing kicks in games. The bottom line is this is about performance on Sundays and I have all of the confidence that Mason’s going to get that back because we need him.



I try to trust coach, but missing two FG's in a dome ... that's tough. If it was just one, maybe less critical.
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Offline MontanaBob  
#41 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2012 10:07:29 AM(UTC)
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Garu Yepremian has been sighted on Lombardi Ave just this morning. He was seen not only waming up his leg, but actually practicing his passing motion as well.

He told a passer-by...."Not only do you geet good keecker, you geet back-up quarterback, who can pass ball weeth da best of them. And, I sell lots of ties to Packers. Gotta look good at da press conferences."

Crosby better be on the look out. But hey, he could lose his job but end up with a lifetime supply of neckties. Give a couple to the girls as gifts.
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Offline play2win  
#42 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2012 12:08:41 PM(UTC)
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Mason has to work his way out of the slump. Plain and simple... to say, not the easiest thing to actually do. He's already worked his way out of one slump, where he went 16-23 in 2009. He had a stretch of 4 misses in 10 attempts that year, and really struggled from +40 (4-7) and + 50 (2-6). Still, he finished the year at 75%.

Bob McGinn's 2009 grade on Crosby:

"Mason Crosby: Tied for 25th in field-goal accuracy (.750) after ranking 26th in 2007 (.795) and 28th in 2008 (.794). The majority of his misses came from the right hash mark. Tied for 11th in average distance per miss (46.6), ranked 16th in average distance per attempt (36.3) and tied for 24th in average distance per make (32.8). On 78 kickoffs when instructed to kick deep, he averaged 68.01 yards (best in Green Bay this decade) and 3.95 seconds of hang time (second best of decade). Adjusted beautifully when asked to kick off directionally or drive it low. Outstanding on onside kicks. Grade: D-plus"

2010 he made 78.6%
2011 he made 85.7%

This looks to be a bigger slump. Hopefully Mason Crosby can climb out of this one to finish the year strong. I like that McCarthy has instilled confidence in Crosby's ability to turn it back around and be successful, again. If I were Ted, I would get Ryan Longwell on speed dial, and see how he could add him to our roster - just in case Crosby can't shake it. Longwell for FGs. Crosby for KOs.

Stats on kickers who have successfully worked their way out of serious slumps are very rare - nonexistent. If Crosby can in fact do it, he should get a lot of credit. This is no small thing.
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#43 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2012 4:49:49 PM(UTC)
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Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy said following Week 11 he has no plans to release PK Mason Crosby despite his struggles. "We will continue with Mason," McCarthy said. "We will not blink as far as our commitment to him."

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Offline Tezzy  
#44 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2012 6:44:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Mason has to work his way out of the slump. Plain and simple... to say, not the easiest thing to actually do. He's already worked his way out of one slump, where he went 16-23 in 2009. He had a stretch of 4 misses in 10 attempts that year, and really struggled from +40 (4-7) and + 50 (2-6). Still, he finished the year at 75%.

Bob McGinn's 2009 grade on Crosby:

"Mason Crosby: Tied for 25th in field-goal accuracy (.750) after ranking 26th in 2007 (.795) and 28th in 2008 (.794). The majority of his misses came from the right hash mark. Tied for 11th in average distance per miss (46.6), ranked 16th in average distance per attempt (36.3) and tied for 24th in average distance per make (32.8). On 78 kickoffs when instructed to kick deep, he averaged 68.01 yards (best in Green Bay this decade) and 3.95 seconds of hang time (second best of decade). Adjusted beautifully when asked to kick off directionally or drive it low. Outstanding on onside kicks. Grade: D-plus"

2010 he made 78.6%
2011 he made 85.7%

This looks to be a bigger slump. Hopefully Mason Crosby can climb out of this one to finish the year strong. I like that McCarthy has instilled confidence in Crosby's ability to turn it back around and be successful, again. If I were Ted, I would get Ryan Longwell on speed dial, and see how he could add him to our roster - just in case Crosby can't shake it. Longwell for FGs. Crosby for KOs.

Stats on kickers who have successfully worked their way out of serious slumps are very rare - nonexistent. If Crosby can in fact do it, he should get a lot of credit. This is no small thing.


Longwell had two slump seasons he overcame in his career, a 22 pt(86% to 64% back to 82%) in 2000-2002 and yet another season with a 11 pt drop. Morten Anderson had successive seasons of 85%+ followed by successive season of less than 72%, and back to seasons in the 80%+. What about Nick Folk, he plummets from 90% to 65%, and after three straight improving seasons, kicking at 82% this season. I disagree that it is rare or nonexistent for kickers to get out of slumps.

I think Mason can get back to his already pedestrian, but most the time tolerable, sub 80% lifetime. If Mason can recover for the remainder of the season he can get back to respectable and still maintain a pretty solid career stat line.

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#45 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2012 8:10:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tezzy Go to Quoted Post
Longwell had two slump seasons he overcame in his career, a 22 pt(86% to 64% back to 82%) in 2000-2002 and yet another season with a 11 pt drop. Morten Anderson had successive seasons of 85%+ followed by successive season of less than 72%, and back to seasons in the 80%+. What about Nick Folk, he plummets from 90% to 65%, and after three straight improving seasons, kicking at 82% this season. I disagree that it is rare or nonexistent for kickers to get out of slumps.

I think Mason can get back to his already pedestrian, but most the time tolerable, sub 80% lifetime. If Mason can recover for the remainder of the season he can get back to respectable and still maintain a pretty solid career stat line.



People talk shit about Crosby being sub 80 %. But keep in mind. Not only does he have to consistently make unusually long attempts, but he's also kicking in Lambeau.

Now I don't think Crosby's "clutch," per se. Never has been. But he's good with the onside and pooch type kicks. Plus he's got a strong leg.

I can see why they're not gonna just dump him.

All kickers go through slumps. Not to jinx him of course.
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#46 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:49:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tezzy Go to Quoted Post
Longwell had two slump seasons he overcame in his career, a 22 pt(86% to 64% back to 82%) in 2000-2002 and yet another season with a 11 pt drop. Morten Anderson had successive seasons of 85%+ followed by successive season of less than 72%, and back to seasons in the 80%+. What about Nick Folk, he plummets from 90% to 65%, and after three straight improving seasons, kicking at 82% this season. I disagree that it is rare or nonexistent for kickers to get out of slumps.

I think Mason can get back to his already pedestrian, but most the time tolerable, sub 80% lifetime. If Mason can recover for the remainder of the season he can get back to respectable and still maintain a pretty solid career stat line.



Teezy, you are right that there are instances where kickers have gotten out of slumps, so, the "non-existent" statement I made was incorrect. However, they are indeed rare. You would have to admit that.

BTW, it is normal for an ebb and flow type of percentage for accuracy amongst all kickers from one season to the next. That is the norm. The thing that has me concerned is actually climbing out of a rather severe slump. He was fine prior to the IND game, making 100% of his FGs, with a long of 54 yds. Since that game he had made just 6 of his 13 attempts, with a long of 48 @ STL.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:20:38 AM(UTC)
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I don't know if it is that rare of a thing.

Took a look at three of the longest tenured K's in the league.

David Akers, Jason Hanson, Adam Vinatieri.

All have had sucessive seasons with drops or peaks of greater than 10% from the previous season. For a graphical look..
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:24:02 AM(UTC)
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The problem, if any with Mason is that he is a lower percentage kicker overall, so his lows seem more apparent.

But just the same, the Packers resigned him with that knowledge in place.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#49 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:42:32 AM(UTC)
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I wanted to slice the numbers for kickers, by summary comparisons.

By range, by overall percentage and percent of their attempts over 50 yards, something I thought Crosby had suffered by the hands of MM. Meaning that he had a proportionally higher attempts in relation to all attempts from over 50 yards because of his leg strength.



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#50 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:04:52 PM(UTC)
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I don't know if it is that rare of a thing.

Took a look at three of the longest tenured K's in the league.

David Akers, Jason Hanson, Adam Vinatieri.

All have had sucessive seasons with drops or peaks of greater than 10% from the previous season. For a graphical look..


Yeah, but the mean there is around 75%. As I mentioned, the norm is an ebb and flow from year to year. He was perfect through the first 4 games, with 0 attempts in two of those contests (5-5 in both CHI and SEA games).

The last 6 weeks he is kicking at 46%, which is WAY out of that mean. That is where I have a concern. Every kicker slumps to some extent at certain points in their careers. It is just, how badly, and for how long.

I would say this a considerable stretch here. I hope he can climb out of it. He has remarkable support from his coaches and teammates. I'm pulling for him, as I am a pretty big fan of his.
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