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Offline RajiRoar  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:49:02 PM(UTC)
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Darin Gantt wrote:
Packers coach Mike McCarthy announced Benson had surgery on his foot yesterday, and would not be activated from the IR/designated for return list


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so Benson, Sherrod, Bulaga, Bishop, Perry, DJ Smith, all end up on IR.

Jennings, Woodson and Matthews miss a significant portion of the season.

Kuhn, Shields, Nelson have missed multiple weeks as well.

wut the hell is going on up there?


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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:56:48 PM(UTC)
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Well that worked out well.MadWas there anyone else who would have benefited by this designation?
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:57:52 PM(UTC)
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The the may has turned into a NOT... that is disappointing.

It is what it is.. time to move forward. No excuses.. just play.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline RajiRoar  
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:59:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SINCITYCHEEZE Go to Quoted Post
Well that worked out well.MadWas there anyone else who would have benefited by this designation?


There were some rumblings about it being used on Bishop, that he could be good to go by the playoffs... but I really doubt it being a torn hammy and all.


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Offline Pack93z  
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:59:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SINCITYCHEEZE Go to Quoted Post
Well that worked out well.MadWas there anyone else who would have benefited by this designation?


Bishop maybe.. but he probably wouldn't have been ready til late Jan or Feb. ** edit - added quote.

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"I foresee me being close to 100 percent, I would say, February-ish," Bishop said.


Not really.. Woodson maybe so that we could have his roster spot open. Or Jennings.. they have been locking up roster spots.

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Offline DakotaT  
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
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so Benson, Sherrod, Bulaga, Bishop, Perry, DJ Smith, all end up on IR.

Jennings, Woodson and Matthews miss a significant portion of the season.

Kuhn, Shields, Nelson have missed multiple weeks as well.

wut the hell is going on up there?



How many teams in the league that lost that many starters would be 7-4 right now? We had it worse in 2010, but we had a more solid O-line then. Should be interesting how this all plays out. There's no crying in football boys - time to jump on our QB's back and let him carry us again. Right now, Matthews is the biggest loss - Jennings being second.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:21:42 PM(UTC)
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Deja vu
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#8 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:22:32 PM(UTC)
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I didn't see Benson coming back and being effective.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:22:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I didn't see Benson coming back and being effective.


I didn't either. Run what 'cha brung!
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#10 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:46:35 PM(UTC)
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Time to call Ryan Grant!!!

Or did someone else already pick him up?

He should have a good 10 weeks left in that old body.

MAKE THE CALL TED!!!!!

EDIT: Just checked RG still a free agent!!!
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#11 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:52:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
How many teams in the league that lost that many starters would be 7-4 right now? We had it worse in 2010, but we had a more solid O-line then. Should be interesting how this all plays out. There's no crying in football boys - time to jump on our QB's back and let him carry us again. Right now, Matthews is the biggest loss - Jennings being second.


Or even 8-3.

You can almost set your watch by this team being decimated with injuries. Every EVEN year it happens. 2012, 2010, 2008, 2006.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:05:28 PM(UTC)
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Bishop wasn't eligible for the reinstatement rule because he wasn't part of opening day 53man roster.

The only benefit would have been possibly being able to use on Woodson opening a roster spot for to bring in somebody maybe.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:41:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Time to call Ryan Grant!!!

Or did someone else already pick him up?

He should have a good 10 weeks left in that old body.

MAKE THE CALL TED!!!!!

EDIT: Just checked RG still a free agent!!!


I suspect there's more to RG's story than we're hearing. I'm not sure he recovered completely from his injury or that he has a lot of gas left in the tank. Washington signed him, and then cut him a few weeks later to sign RB Keiland Williams. That says a lot right there.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:52:05 PM(UTC)
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fuck.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:08:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
Bishop wasn't eligible for the reinstatement rule because he wasn't part of opening day 53man roster.

The only benefit would have been possibly being able to use on Woodson opening a roster spot for to bring in somebody maybe.


Actually, there was an exemption for those hurt around the time of the new ruling..

http://www.nfl.com/news/...-decastro-desmond-bishop

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In future years, only players that are placed on IR after teams make their cuts to a 53-man roster will be eligible. For this year only, the league made an exception to the rule because initial roster cuts have already started. The Green Bay Packers, for instance, could "reactivate" linebacker Desmond Bishop from IR before Aug. 31 at 9 p.m. ET. Bishop must remain on the Packers' 53-man roster through the league-mandated cutdown period and would then be eligible for the roster exemption.
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#16 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 5:57:00 AM(UTC)
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Using it on someone else really wouldn't have meant much anyways. With all the other guys who have been put on IR there have been open roster spots all year.
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#17 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:03:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
How many teams in the league that lost that many starters would be 7-4 right now? We had it worse in 2010, but we had a more solid O-line then.


I prefer the term "Slightly less porous". Didn't we lead the league in sacks or come very close to it? I remember Rodgers getting knocked around waaaay too much.
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#18 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:21:09 AM(UTC)
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The injuries this season are dramatically more damaging to the Packers team than in 2010. Do not kid yourself. The players lost in 2012 were far more valuable than those lost in 2010.

I think Cedric Benson is better than both James Starks and Alex Green. With that said, I think the combination of the two will more than be enough to soften the loss of Benson.
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#19 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:27:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Actually, there was an exemption for those hurt around the time of the new ruling..

http://www.nfl.com/news/...-decastro-desmond-bishop



There was an exemption, that exemption would have allowed GB to take Bishop off IR and back on the, at then 75 man roster, and keep him on the active roster for the rest fo preseason through the final cuts. And then could have placed him on IR to get the return designation.

The Packers didn't so he wasn't eligible.
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#20 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:49:59 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
There was an exemption, that exemption would have allowed GB to take Bishop off IR and back on the, at then 75 man roster, and keep him on the active roster for the rest fo preseason through the final cuts. And then could have placed him on IR to get the return designation.

The Packers didn't so he wasn't eligible.


But the point was they could have.. correct?

Just like the other guys they have placed on IR prior to Bishop, they could have designated them as well. Point was he could have been eligible.

But at the end of the day, maybe returning in the playoffs after a whole year off makes the issue moot. By doing it that early, they would have given up the tag for an area at that point where there was depth. Unlike other areas, like the Oline, where the tag would have maybe been more valuable to the team.
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#21 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 8:05:43 AM(UTC)
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James Starks is a playoff man...no worries...right?
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#22 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 8:22:02 AM(UTC)
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James Starks is a playoff man...no worries...right?


I think we should hold off on playoff talk, until the Packers secure a position lol
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#23 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 10:57:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
But the point was they could have.. correct?

Just like the other guys they have placed on IR prior to Bishop, they could have designated them as well. Point was he could have been eligible.

But at the end of the day, maybe returning in the playoffs after a whole year off makes the issue moot. By doing it that early, they would have given up the tag for an area at that point where there was depth. Unlike other areas, like the Oline, where the tag would have maybe been more valuable to the team.


I think teams can only use the "designated to return" thing on 1 player.
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#24 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 11:09:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
I think teams can only use the "designated to return" thing on 1 player.


Correct, hence the reason that using it on Bishop in preseason, a position that looked deep, was a risk and very well may have played into not using it on him.

We had DJ Smith sitting there ready to roll.

Yes. 1 player per team. Twins statement of them being on the final roster is a correct statement, it just was this year teams could have used it for exceptions like Bishop that was placed on the IR prior to the rule being announced.

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#25 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 11:30:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Correct, hence the reason that using it on Bishop in preseason, a position that looked deep, was a risk and very well may have played into don't using it on him.

We had DJ Smith sitting there ready to roll.

Yes. 1 player per team. Twins statement of them being on the final roster is a correct statement, it just was this year teams could have used it for exceptions like Bishop that was placed on the IR prior to the rule being announced.


I wonder why they made the rule this way. The way it is now. A player can be hurt before camp, and through PUP can be returned to the team during the season. Or hurt once the season starts and through the IR return designation. But when hurt during preseason, they will have to be kept on the team through the final cuts.

Why not just say, if not eligible for PUP, one player can be designated for return from IR. And let the teams designate that at any time during pre-season or regular season.
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