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Offline steveishere  
#16 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 5:57:00 AM(UTC)

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Using it on someone else really wouldn't have meant much anyways. With all the other guys who have been put on IR there have been open roster spots all year.
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#17 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:03:07 AM(UTC)

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How many teams in the league that lost that many starters would be 7-4 right now? We had it worse in 2010, but we had a more solid O-line then.


I prefer the term "Slightly less porous". Didn't we lead the league in sacks or come very close to it? I remember Rodgers getting knocked around waaaay too much.
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#18 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:21:09 AM(UTC)

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The injuries this season are dramatically more damaging to the Packers team than in 2010. Do not kid yourself. The players lost in 2012 were far more valuable than those lost in 2010.

I think Cedric Benson is better than both James Starks and Alex Green. With that said, I think the combination of the two will more than be enough to soften the loss of Benson.
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#19 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:27:01 AM(UTC)

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Actually, there was an exemption for those hurt around the time of the new ruling..

http://www.nfl.com/news/...-decastro-desmond-bishop



There was an exemption, that exemption would have allowed GB to take Bishop off IR and back on the, at then 75 man roster, and keep him on the active roster for the rest fo preseason through the final cuts. And then could have placed him on IR to get the return designation.

The Packers didn't so he wasn't eligible.
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#20 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:49:59 AM(UTC)

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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
There was an exemption, that exemption would have allowed GB to take Bishop off IR and back on the, at then 75 man roster, and keep him on the active roster for the rest fo preseason through the final cuts. And then could have placed him on IR to get the return designation.

The Packers didn't so he wasn't eligible.


But the point was they could have.. correct?

Just like the other guys they have placed on IR prior to Bishop, they could have designated them as well. Point was he could have been eligible.

But at the end of the day, maybe returning in the playoffs after a whole year off makes the issue moot. By doing it that early, they would have given up the tag for an area at that point where there was depth. Unlike other areas, like the Oline, where the tag would have maybe been more valuable to the team.
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#21 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 8:05:43 AM(UTC)

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James Starks is a playoff man...no worries...right?
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#22 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 8:22:02 AM(UTC)

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James Starks is a playoff man...no worries...right?


I think we should hold off on playoff talk, until the Packers secure a position lol
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#23 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 10:57:20 AM(UTC)

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But the point was they could have.. correct?

Just like the other guys they have placed on IR prior to Bishop, they could have designated them as well. Point was he could have been eligible.

But at the end of the day, maybe returning in the playoffs after a whole year off makes the issue moot. By doing it that early, they would have given up the tag for an area at that point where there was depth. Unlike other areas, like the Oline, where the tag would have maybe been more valuable to the team.


I think teams can only use the "designated to return" thing on 1 player.
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#24 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 11:09:45 AM(UTC)

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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
I think teams can only use the "designated to return" thing on 1 player.


Correct, hence the reason that using it on Bishop in preseason, a position that looked deep, was a risk and very well may have played into not using it on him.

We had DJ Smith sitting there ready to roll.

Yes. 1 player per team. Twins statement of them being on the final roster is a correct statement, it just was this year teams could have used it for exceptions like Bishop that was placed on the IR prior to the rule being announced.
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Correct, hence the reason that using it on Bishop in preseason, a position that looked deep, was a risk and very well may have played into don't using it on him.

We had DJ Smith sitting there ready to roll.

Yes. 1 player per team. Twins statement of them being on the final roster is a correct statement, it just was this year teams could have used it for exceptions like Bishop that was placed on the IR prior to the rule being announced.


I wonder why they made the rule this way. The way it is now. A player can be hurt before camp, and through PUP can be returned to the team during the season. Or hurt once the season starts and through the IR return designation. But when hurt during preseason, they will have to be kept on the team through the final cuts.

Why not just say, if not eligible for PUP, one player can be designated for return from IR. And let the teams designate that at any time during pre-season or regular season.
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#26 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 11:44:10 AM(UTC)

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I wonder why they made the rule this way. The way it is now. A player can be hurt before camp, and through PUP can be returned to the team during the season. Or hurt once the season starts and through the IR return designation. But when hurt during preseason, they will have to be kept on the team through the final cuts.

Why not just say, if not eligible for PUP, one player can be designated for return from IR. And let the teams designate that at any time during pre-season or regular season.


That is a good question, personally I think this will be expanded much like MLB DL designation. It only makes sense for the NFL, clubs and players.

The NFL can get stars back in the same season and it would allow for players to heal and still keep the level of talent on the field Sundays as high as possible.

Clubs get more flexibility with the roster limits and carrying injured players on the roster.

And the players, if hurt may get to play again in a season where the club in the past may have IR'd them and filled their roster spot. Young players and players with incentives in their contracts would greatly benefit from this. Union has more dues coming and and more players drawing revenue.


I think a couple things were there in that decision.

1. Avoiding it being a way to stashing a player. I think this comes into play when they expand this program.. I think it has every intention of being expanded.

2. They were in a rush to implement and try it for evaluations of the success or failure of the program.

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