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Offline yooperfan  
#41 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 8:46:28 AM(UTC)
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Game ball to McCarthy for sticking with the run.
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#42 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 11:54:04 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
Who cares if they helped him? I often wonder why the Packers don't give their tackles more help. They need to do whatever it takes to give Rodgers some time. If all it takes to be mildly successful is Barclay starting with some help, than so be it. If Lang can come back to LG, than they should be able to give even more help on the right side. That's all about good coaching to me. There's always going to be a weakness. Do what it takes to cover up that weakness, especially when it's protecting the franchise in Aaron Rodgers.


Yeah, I agree doddpower. So much so, that I wouldn't mind if they went with a power set full-time against some of the more prominent pass rushes. 6 OL instead of 5. Why not?
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#43 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 1:49:52 PM(UTC)
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Kudos to Barclay, he did much better than anyone could hope for from an UDA thrown into the fire. That situation had potential for disaster. Now the key is consistent improvement. Anybody can avoid a block by avoiding contact but if he takes himself out of the play the blocker wins.
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Offline doddpower  
#44 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 5:00:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
That makes no sense. Being the RT he has to be SOMEWHERE. Just being there doesn't count for anything. He has to do something. Just because the defender had a 50-50 chance and chose wrong is not a credit to Barclay.

I am happy with the end result but there is no attaboy for Barclay for simply standing there then trying to engage the defender but missing him completely as the play unfolded.



He wasn't just "standing there." The defender made a quick cut inside in space on the run, and he missed him. It's not good, but it happens. I just don't see the big deal about it since it didn't effect the play. He didn't make a pancake block on that one running play that still resulted in a touchdown, but some are busting his balls about it? That defender didn't make the play. Do better next time (as he did multiple other times) and move on.
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#45 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 5:55:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
He wasn't just "standing there." The defender made a quick cut inside in space on the run, and he missed him. It's not good, but it happens. I just don't see the big deal about it since it didn't effect the play. He didn't make a pancake block on that one running play that still resulted in a touchdown, but some are busting his balls about it? That defender didn't make the play. Do better next time (as he did multiple other times) and move on.


I am not trying to bust his balls. All I said was that he didn't merit a game ball. He did an ok job. it was nice that they were able to give him help and it worked. I was thrilled MN didn't eat him alive like some rooks would have been.

The whiff was just one play. I merely mentioned it as it was a play everyone could see and others had talked about as well.

It could have been worse. It could have been better.

He did step into a bad situation with very few reps and made the most of it. Still no game ball.
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#46 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 6:10:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
That makes no sense. Being the RT he has to be SOMEWHERE. Just being there doesn't count for anything. He has to do something. Just because the defender had a 50-50 chance and chose wrong is not a credit to Barclay.

I am happy with the end result but there is no attaboy for Barclay for simply standing there then trying to engage the defender but missing him completely as the play unfolded.


Can't really blame Barclay for there not being a player in position for him to really block. On that play, When gets outside, he has blocking rules. Henderson was at best at the very backside of his responsibility.
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#47 Posted : Monday, December 3, 2012 6:26:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
That holds as much as weight as knocking someone for getting their jock juked by Barry Sanders. Far more in the league have that happen than not.

Very true. You still have to make an effort, though. The tackling was atrocious. I think some players, especially Burnett, were intimidated. That's where we miss Charles Woodson. Burnett isn't an in-the-box safety. He's more of a centerfielder. Woodson almost thrives near the line of scrimmage. I saw a post questioning Woodson's future, but I think he still has a future with this team. This game proved that. Woodson puts forth the effort, and even if you fail to get Peterson to the ground, you still slow him up for other players to come in and finish.
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