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User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#1 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:03:11 PM(UTC)
I don't know about the rest of you, but I thought Shields had just as good a game last night as Tramon. Tramon got the intense duty of trying to shut down Megatron, but Shields took his job back from House last night - and we have a very, very good cover secondary going into the playoffs - probably best in the league with House and Hayward. The young bucks cut their teeth while Shields was injured and it will be playing huge dividends moving forward. Bush can concentrate on covering kicks.
gbguy20  
#2 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:11:30 PM(UTC)
It was awesome having him back and making some big plays last night. Getting Woodson back next week lets us take MD off the field finally.

Woody + Tramon + Sammy + Burnett + Hayward + House

damn.


edit: that being said, Bush is awesome at punt coverage, and he has made some big plays for us in recent years when playing on Defense. Ever since the Superbowl I refuse to hate on him.
PackerTraxx  
#3 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:47:13 PM(UTC)
We may not have a stud like Woodson once was, there aren't many like that, but there is good talent with good depth developing.
RajiRoar  
#4 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:47:34 PM(UTC)
imagine how much better they would look if our front 7 was decent.

the lack of pass rush is amazing.
PackerTraxx  
#5 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:52:08 PM(UTC)
I see them again getting better after this draft, Perry's return, plus another year of experience for our young players.
QCHuskerFan  
#6 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 1:01:26 PM(UTC)
Does Woodson return to a prominent role? To be honest, his play was not exemplary before he got hurt this year. Maybe the change in position, but maybe age? So does he return in a limited role now? Safety in base 3-4? Out on most passing downs? Unless blitzing?

Seems rash, but these 'kids' are doing a pretty good job.
wpr  
#7 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 6:29:40 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
Does Woodson return to a prominent role? To be honest, his play was not exemplary before he got hurt this year. Maybe the change in position, but maybe age? So does he return in a limited role now? Safety in base 3-4? Out on most passing downs? Unless blitzing?

Seems rash, but these 'kids' are doing a pretty good job.


no. they need his leadership and experience on the field. he does things no one else can.
play2win  
#8 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 7:14:13 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know about the rest of you, but I thought Shields had just as good a game last night as Tramon. Tramon got the intense duty of trying to shut down Megatron, but Shields took his job back from House last night - and we have a very, very good cover secondary going into the playoffs - probably best in the league with House and Hayward. The young bucks cut their teeth while Shields was injured and it will be playing huge dividends moving forward. Bush can concentrate on covering kicks.


Well said, and I agree. They are really looking strong, and will only get better.

How good was that to see Shields come back strong! Not a question... Just awesome.
beast  
#9 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 7:35:42 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
It was awesome having him back and making some big plays last night. Getting Woodson back next week lets us take MD off the field finally.

Woody + Tramon + Sammy + Burnett + Hayward + House

damn.


The only down side I see is only one true Safety. Woodson has played S but his best role is clearly the nickle hybrid S/LB role...

So to get all them on the field at once they'll ether have to keep Woodson back, go to a one Safety look (which Capers has done in the past for short periods) or be creative positions package.

Like a package where Woodson is playing LB (with Hayward in the hybird position)...

I think the one Safety look one is the most likely. I remember the Packers running a 2-4 nickel set, where both OLBers moved up to the line and a Safety moved up and lined up with the Lbers giving it a 4-3 look with 3 CBs and One Safety formation. And if the DBs are good enough in man with out help over the top, they can do that and get away with it.
nerdmann  
#10 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 8:42:29 PM(UTC)
Woody's gonna provide experience and veteran savvy during the playoffs.

The young guys are gonna learn plenty from him.
macbob  
#11 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 10:07:57 PM(UTC)
This thread made me think back thankfully that we're not back in the Mike Sherman days with Ahmad Carroll...
QCHuskerFan  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:30:47 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
no. they need his leadership and experience on the field. he does things no one else can.


I understand leadership and experience. But there is an advantage to youth and speed also. Results have been pretty good without him on the field.

I would say he is the 5th best corner right now, behind Williams, Shields, Hayward, and House. At best, 2nd Safety, but probably 3rd. Maybe the best blitzer among the DB's, but...

He is starting to remind me of Donald Driver. Is this his last year with the Pack? He is due to earn 10M next year and in 2014. The NFL is about youth and $. Charles is at the wrong end of each.
gbguy20  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:09:35 AM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
The only down side I see is only one true Safety. Woodson has played S but his best role is clearly the nickle hybrid S/LB role...

So to get all them on the field at once they'll ether have to keep Woodson back, go to a one Safety look (which Capers has done in the past for short periods) or be creative positions package.

Like a package where Woodson is playing LB (with Hayward in the hybird position)...

I think the one Safety look one is the most likely. I remember the Packers running a 2-4 nickel set, where both OLBers moved up to the line and a Safety moved up and lined up with the Lbers giving it a 4-3 look with 3 CBs and One Safety formation. And if the DBs are good enough in man with out help over the top, they can do that and get away with it.


The issue is, the only time I notice MD Jennings on the field is when hes doing something terrible
Pack93z  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:19:21 AM(UTC)
Why do we look better this season?

Part is definitely the players added to the backend. There is little doubt about the talent of the young players thrust into roles.

But part of that is also, to date we have been playing a majority of man with little zone sprinkled in. Last season, I truly believe Capers was trying anything to mask talent gaps and injuries (Williams shoulder as a major and Collins going down) with complex schemes that added confusion.

That has cleaned up much of the communication issues coupled with better tackling overall.

My concern is in the playoffs we will be forced into a zone scheme to try and offset the opposing offenses and we will struggle with it. That said.. being 4 deep at CB, 5 if you put Woodson in the slot.. that should allow us to remain in man in most cases.

Either way.. we still have been pretty solid with our pass rush being somewhat neutered by injuries.. we are getting some of that pop back so we should only improve at the right time.
nerdmann  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:08:18 PM(UTC)
QCHuskerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
I understand leadership and experience. But there is an advantage to youth and speed also. Results have been pretty good without him on the field.

I would say he is the 5th best corner right now, behind Williams, Shields, Hayward, and House. At best, 2nd Safety, but probably 3rd. Maybe the best blitzer among the DB's, but...

He is starting to remind me of Donald Driver. Is this his last year with the Pack? He is due to earn 10M next year and in 2014. The NFL is about youth and $. Charles is at the wrong end of each.


Let the speedy youths play CB.

Charles can play S.
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