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warhawk  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:15:43 AM(UTC)
It seems to me I was hearing alot about wanting to run the ball better and be more balanced and now that they are getting that people want the big play offense back. C'mon guys. You don't get it both ways.
Teams have chosen to take the big play offense away with two safeties playing deep. We see it every week now. So the alternative is to run the ball and fortunately that has been going well. This does not, however, provide an opportunity to put up big numbers.

It's all about the playoffs now and if we secure home field the run game becomes a huge part of being able to win. If we can run as effectively or nearly as well as our opponents Rodgers will take care of the rest.

Besides, how many games have we had the whole receiving group on the field together? Not many. So with Jordy back and Jennings playing again I can see Rodgers really putting the ball all over the place again. Something we haven't seen much of this year.
wpr  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:15:28 PM(UTC)
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The Chicago Bears placed kicker Robbie Gould on the injured reserve list with a season-ending calf muscle injury Tuesday and signed veteran kicker Olindo Mare.

Mare won a tryout Tuesday morning at Halas Hall, which included Billy Cundiff and Neil Rackers. All three kickers performed well, according to a source.

Mare, 39, kicked for the Carolina Panthers last season. He also has played for the Seattle Seahawks and New Orleans Saints and spent 10 seasons with the Miami Dolphins. Mare has made 81.2 percent of his field goal attempts in his career and was 22-for-28 last season, when he also kicked 53 touchbacks for the Panthers.


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Gould wasn’t the only player to land on injured reserve. Safety Craig Steltz (chest) and cornerback Sherrick McManis (knee) were also placed on IR, dealing a blow to special teams depth. The Bears promoted wide receiver Joe Anderson from the practice squad to the 53-man roster and signed linebacker Jerry Franklin off the practice squad of the Dallas Cowboys.


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Steltz was a backup safety and the team's seventh defensive back while McManis was purely a special teamer. Both players are under contract at a cheap rate for the 2013 season. Dec 11 - 2:08 PM



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Mare, who will be 40 in June, beat out Neil Rackers and Billy Cundiff at a Tuesday tryout. He replaces Robbie Gould, who pulled a calf muscle while warming up for last week's game against the Vikings. Mare was last seen in Carolina during training camp, where he lost the placekicking gig to Justin Medlock. Mare went just 6-of-9 on field goals from 30-39 yards out with the Panthers in 2011, costing them at least two wins. Dec 11 - 1:21 PM
Gaycandybacon  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:20:43 PM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
It seems to me I was hearing alot about wanting to run the ball better and be more balanced and now that they are getting that people want the big play offense back. C'mon guys. You don't get it both ways.
Teams have chosen to take the big play offense away with two safeties playing deep. We see it every week now. So the alternative is to run the ball and fortunately that has been going well. This does not, however, provide an opportunity to put up big numbers.

It's all about the playoffs now and if we secure home field the run game becomes a huge part of being able to win. If we can run as effectively or nearly as well as our opponents Rodgers will take care of the rest.

Besides, how many games have we had the whole receiving group on the field together? Not many. So with Jordy back and Jennings playing again I can see Rodgers really putting the ball all over the place again. Something we haven't seen much of this year.


Agreed. And, this team is not complaining. Like Mike McCarthy said, "throw the stats out the door". Our passing game will improve heading to the playoffs now that we found a spark in the running game. Teams will start bringing safties down in the box, and those plays will be there.
doddpower  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:17:04 PM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
It seems to me I was hearing alot about wanting to run the ball better and be more balanced and now that they are getting that people want the big play offense back. C'mon guys. You don't get it both ways.
Teams have chosen to take the big play offense away with two safeties playing deep. We see it every week now. So the alternative is to run the ball and fortunately that has been going well. This does not, however, provide an opportunity to put up big numbers.

It's all about the playoffs now and if we secure home field the run game becomes a huge part of being able to win. If we can run as effectively or nearly as well as our opponents Rodgers will take care of the rest.

Besides, how many games have we had the whole receiving group on the field together? Not many. So with Jordy back and Jennings playing again I can see Rodgers really putting the ball all over the place again. Something we haven't seen much of this year.



Unless one's team is the New England Patriots. They have been able to run the ball well and still have many big plays. It's certainly possible, as a good running game can set up huge play action passes, which Aaron Rodgers loves (probably a little too much, as I feel he isn't patient enough at times).
play2win  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:33:14 PM(UTC)
Wow wpr. Thank you for the news. Gould being out is a major loss for CHI. Major.
Yerko  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:18:46 PM(UTC)
Simply put...stop Brandon Marshall, stop the Bears offense.

Cutler- 213 completions for 2,495 yards and 16 touchdowns
Marshall- 101 receptions for 1,342 yards and 9 touchdowns (we'll say 8 since 1 was from Campbell vs SF)

Completions- 47% to Marshall
Yards- 54% is Marshall
Touchdowns- 50% is Marshall

Last game vs Vikings
Cutler- 32 pass attempts
Marshall- 19 targets
59% of pass attempts to Marshall

Of course, I didn't have to post any of these numbers to show any of you that Brandon Marshall is all Cutler has and looks at but I thought what the hell. I thought the completion % would be a bit higher to Marshall but it is still pretty close to 50%.

With the way Tramon played Marshall last time (2 receptions for 24 yards, 0 TD) and the way he played Megatron this past week, I think the Packers defense overall dominates the Bears offense with the return of our starters. Matthews, Woodson, and Wilson being back is HUGE for this defense.

No Urlacher for the Bears will be big for us as well. Urlacher has always played well against the Packers and with him missing, their run defense is hurt. This will open up a lot of opportunities for our offense.

Packers by 10.
nerdmann  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:05:32 PM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
It seems to me I was hearing alot about wanting to run the ball better and be more balanced and now that they are getting that people want the big play offense back. C'mon guys. You don't get it both ways.
Teams have chosen to take the big play offense away with two safeties playing deep. We see it every week now. So the alternative is to run the ball and fortunately that has been going well. This does not, however, provide an opportunity to put up big numbers.

It's all about the playoffs now and if we secure home field the run game becomes a huge part of being able to win. If we can run as effectively or nearly as well as our opponents Rodgers will take care of the rest.

Besides, how many games have we had the whole receiving group on the field together? Not many. So with Jordy back and Jennings playing again I can see Rodgers really putting the ball all over the place again. Something we haven't seen much of this year.


That and exploit it with TEs up the seam.

If THAT could really happen.
wpr  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:06:13 PM(UTC)
Yerko said: Go to Quoted Post
Simply put...stop Brandon Marshall, stop the Bears offense.

Cutler- 213 completions for 2,495 yards and 16 touchdowns
Marshall- 101 receptions for 1,342 yards and 9 touchdowns (we'll say 8 since 1 was from Campbell vs SF)

Completions- 47% to Marshall
Yards- 54% is Marshall
Touchdowns- 50% is Marshall

Last game vs Vikings
Cutler- 32 pass attempts
Marshall- 19 targets
59% of pass attempts to Marshall

Of course, I didn't have to post any of these numbers to show any of you that Brandon Marshall is all Cutler has and looks at but I thought what the hell. I thought the completion % would be a bit higher to Marshall but it is still pretty close to 50%.

With the way Tramon played Marshall last time (2 receptions for 24 yards, 0 TD) and the way he played Megatron this past week, I think the Packers defense overall dominates the Bears offense with the return of our starters. Matthews, Woodson, and Wilson being back is HUGE for this defense.

No Urlacher for the Bears will be big for us as well. Urlacher has always played well against the Packers and with him missing, their run defense is hurt. This will open up a lot of opportunities for our offense.

Packers by 10.


thanks for the break down yerko. as you said we know that Marshall is the one to shut down but it is good to see the numbers.
doddpower  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:21:10 PM(UTC)
Is Tim Jennings still out, as well? He is their best pure cover corner, imo. Losing him is a huge loss.
play2win  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:27:19 PM(UTC)
doddpower said: Go to Quoted Post
Is Tim Jennings still out, as well? He is their best pure cover corner, imo. Losing him is a huge loss.


dodd, I think he would be hard pressed to play after a shoulder separation 2 weeks ago.

"MINNEAPOLIS -- Bears cornerback Tim Jennings said after the Bears' 21-14 loss against the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday that he's recovering from a dislocated right shoulder.
Jennings injured his shoulder last week in the Bears' loss against the Seattle Seahawks, making a tackle late in the fourth quarter. He missed every practice before the Vikings game, but was officially ruled out on Friday.
Jennings, though, said he always hoped that he might be able to play against the Vikings. Veteran Kelvin Hayden started in his place.
"I always think there is a chance," said Jennings, who leads the NFL with eight interceptions. "Later in the week, it was getting better each and every day, but the coaches decided to let it heal, which is smart because I still have a little soreness in there."

http://blogs.suntimes.co...s_recovering_from_d.html

I agree, his is as big a loss as Urlachrr or Gould. CHI has been through a rough two weeks.
dfosterf  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:58:57 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know why everyone is so cocky, we have been winning some pretty fugly games. I sure like the run/pass mix we have been using the last couple games, but I miss the quick strike and balloon scoring we had been doing.


Personally, unless things change dramatically, I think we're done. Call it a Sun Tzu observation. I don't WANT that to be true, but that's what I think. The media seems to think we are "dangerous", or somesuchshit.

That Giants game was the nightmare I saw coming. The Bears are meaningless, especially IF WE WIN. If we lose, maybe we will wake up, or something, or get a better draft choice, or something...

Right now, it's all complete bullshit until we beat a team like the Giants in their house... to me. I would risk death before getting beat again by the same opponent, I swear, I WOULD FUCKING HOLD THAT LINE. ...but me and mine roll differently...

There. That's not cocky.

Oh, and Lovie Smith can kiss my dick, along with the Green Bay Packers dicks, and all Packer fans' dicks.

Remember?

His goal was and is to beat the Packers, said so when he got the job.

WE stayed quiet, and beat him and his fucking Bares. Let's stay quiet some more, and run his ass out of Chicago, crushing him AGAIN.

(Sorry Grizz and the kids reading this, especially the language--love ya all but not much of a fucking Bears fan, lol)
Cheesey  
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:43:55 PM(UTC)
Get after Cutler, and that stops the Bares offense.

I just hope we keep the foot on the gas the entire game. Don't let up for an instant.
Pack93z  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:54:58 PM(UTC)
Brandon Marshall doesn't like the Packers.. good... I am sure the feeling is mutual.

I have no issue with saying there are few Bear players I enjoy.. I loath the team. So it bothers me not what Brandon and his Charlie Brown tree like.

In terms of cocky.. we shouldn't be yet... not until we can run the ball consistently and start making defenses come out of that shell. It is getting there.. and if it does, the cocky ass Osi and his light in the ass defensive front should get smack in the mouth.

The only team in the NFC I fear if we develop a consistent running game.. the Niners. You can run right at the Giants. But so far we haven't, couldn't and failed. Hence the harping on the running game.. it is the equalizer against the Giants.

I know 54 is missing on the Bears.. but it should be a good test to see if our running game is really going. Run on Briggs and company.
dfosterf  
#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:01:43 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Brandon Marshall doesn't like the Packers.. good... I am sure the feeling is mutual.

I have no issue with saying there are few Bear players I enjoy.. I loath the team. So it bothers me not what Brandon and his Charlie Brown tree like.

In terms of cocky.. we shouldn't be yet... not until we can run the ball consistently and start making defenses come out of that shell. It is getting there.. and if it does, the cocky ass Osi and his light in the ass defensive front should get smack in the mouth.

The only team in the NFC I fear if we develop a consistent running game.. the Niners. You can run right at the Giants. But so far we haven't, couldn't and failed. Hence the harping on the running game.. it is the equalizer against the Giants.

I know 54 is missing on the Bears.. but it should be a good test to see if our running game is really going. Run on Briggs and company.


Right down their throats. The non-running-capable GB Packers. Shove the friggin' ball right down their mf'ing throats, right up the gut.

They should let me give the GD pre-game speech in the locker room. I could virtually guarantee a couple of dead bears in the 1st quarter.

Razz

e.g. (I have inspirational mentors, plus, it's as close to war as I can get these days, lol)

...When Chesty Puller's (google just his pic- self-explanatory, real- not movie -lol) regiment was assaulted by a full 22 divisions of the Chinese Army at the Chosin, he was asked by a journalist "if anyone would possibly survive..."

His response was simple- "There are not enough communists on this planet to stop a U.S. Marine regiment from going where it wants to go."

His Marines backed his smack. Many historians say that the US Navy, Marines, and weather created the single-largest devastation of any enemy force in the history of warfare during that
single battle...that would include Kursk and such... http://www.bing.com/imag...+Chosin+&FORM=HDRSC2 THAT is digging "deep".

Beat these Bears.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:54:01 PM(UTC)
Gunny, how many shots have you had tonight?

I want Lovie in Chicago forever with Mike Tice as his offensive coordinator. I wonder how well the O-line will do this week. I read somewhere that TJ will be back at LG. A little more beef mixed with nasty never hurts. And I hope we keep using #64 as a tackle eligible that sometimes goes in motion. That was a nice little variation.
wpr  
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:55:16 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Gunny, how many shots have you had tonight?

I want Lovie in Chicago forever with Mike Tice as his offensive coordinator. I wonder how well the O-line will do this week. I read somewhere that TJ will be back at LG. A little more beef mixed with nasty never hurts. And I hope we keep using #64 as a tackle eligible that sometimes goes in motion. That was a nice little variation.


THIS!!!!!!
dfosterf  
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:57:04 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Gunny, how many shots have you had tonight?

I want Lovie in Chicago forever with Mike Tice as his offensive coordinator. I wonder how well the O-line will do this week. I read somewhere that TJ will be back at LG. A little more beef mixed with nasty never hurts. And I hope we keep using #64 as a tackle eligible that sometimes goes in motion. That was a nice little variation.


I'm trying to explain the real baseline of hatred. Running with the animals, if you will.

Bears Pack Vikes Pack

Closest I come to that.

Now, Giants Pack

I also do not like wind, weight, springs, rust, coat hangars in plastic trash bags, and fat drunk black women at wedding receptions.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:07:22 PM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm trying to explain the real baseline of hatred.



In this forum, I thought it was the Minnesota border. Maybe you're thinking of something else?
dfosterf  
#39 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:16:56 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
In this forum, I thought it was the Minnesota border. Maybe you're thinking of something else?


Did I ever tell you that my uncle had to switch plates on his car in order to sell insurance in Minnesota? He actually had registered his car in both states.

I was a lad. I asked him why he was swapping his plates (Good Wisconsin farm, courtyard, ready for his road-trip) puttin' the Minnesota plates on his car...

Answer:

"Vince Lombardi"

I swear on my mother's grave that was his response.

Laugh


wpr  
#40 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:20:33 PM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Did I ever tell you that my uncle had to switch plates on his car in order to sell insurance in Minnesota? He actually had registered his car in both states.

I was a lad. I asked him why he was swapping his plates (Good Wisconsin farm, courtyard, ready for his road-trip) puttin' the Minnesota plates on his car...

Answer:

"Vince Lombardi"

I swear on my mother's grave that was his response.

Laugh




sounds like something my dad would have done.
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