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dfosterf  
#41 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:32:10 PM(UTC)
"Green Bay Packers" meant power in the common usage of our entire language when I grew up, and that is no hyperbole. It just did.


That was a good thing.
Pack93z  
#42 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:05:55 AM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Personally, unless things change dramatically, I think we're done. Call it a Sun Tzu observation. I don't WANT that to be true, but that's what I think. The media seems to think we are "dangerous", or somesuchshit.


After I read this last night.. it stuck in my noggin.. so as I worked last night on SQL (you know those soft cushy hours of the IT departments everywhere of 11pm to 1:30am) this statement here kept echoing in my head.

Beyond probably seeking therapy for allowing this type of statement linger in my thoughts, it also reaffirmed the notion that we as Packer fans are a bunch of spoiled knuckleheads.

This team has won 7 of its last 8 games.. yet we are ready weekly to pounce on the negatives. I was guilty of that same trap last season with about 5 or 6 weeks to go before the playoffs and my fatal flaw notion. Regardless of whether it actually came to life later.. the concept of bitching about winning ugly through injury and struggle is goofy.

Someone once quoted - "Men, I'll be honest. Winning isn't everything,"Men, it's the only thing!" ~ Red Sanders.

While the thought that we might not be dominate or maybe even a threat to win it all might be the only factor to some (ie.. me most of the time), shouldn't we enjoy the successes that we have along the way as fans?

Call it a temporary reset on my thinking for today.. because I know.. on Monday of next week I will probably be in the fatal flaw mindset. But for today.. I am going to try an trick myself to be optimistic, enjoy the successes of today of the Packers, and only look for the positives going into Sunday.

Because damn it.. those Bear fans are whining even louder than usually about the demise of their football team. Brings a smile every time.
wpr  
#43 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:22:00 AM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
After I read this last night.. it stuck in my noggin.. so as I worked last night on SQL (you know those soft cushy hours of the IT departments everywhere of 11pm to 1:30am) this statement here kept echoing in my head.

Beyond probably seeking therapy for allowing this type of statement linger in my thoughts, it also reaffirmed the notion that we as Packer fans are a bunch of spoiled knuckleheads.

This team has won 7 of its last 8 games.. yet we are ready weekly to pounce on the negatives. I was guilty of that same trap last season with about 5 or 6 weeks to go before the playoffs and my fatal flaw notion. Regardless of whether it actually came to life later.. the concept of bitching about winning ugly through injury and struggle is goofy.

Someone once quoted - "Men, I'll be honest. Winning isn't everything,"Men, it's the only thing!" ~ Red Sanders.

While the thought that we might not be dominate or maybe even a threat to win it all might be the only factor to some (ie.. me most of the time), shouldn't we enjoy the successes that we have along the way as fans?

Call it a temporary reset on my thinking for today.. because I know.. on Monday of next week I will probably be in the fatal flaw mindset. But for today.. I am going to try an trick myself to be optimistic, enjoy the successes of today of the Packers, and only look for the positives going into Sunday.

Because damn it.. those Bear fans are whining even louder than usually about the demise of their football team. Brings a smile every time.



I love Bear-Packer Week on the Chicago radio stations. The Bear fans, DJs and former players usually cry so well. It is usually a real ego boost. Even when they are playing somewhat well you can usually see their unrealistically high expectations and you know they will come crashing down around them all to soon.
gbguy20  
#44 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:40:33 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I love Bear-Packer Week on the Chicago radio stations. The Bear fans, DJs and former players usually cry so well. It is usually a real ego boost. Even when they are playing somewhat well you can usually see their unrealistically high expectations and you know they will come crashing down around them all to soon.


are we immune from unrealistically high expectations?
Pack93z  
#45 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:50:02 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
are we immune from unrealistically high expectations?


No... but more often than not over the past two decades.. we haven't been consistently disappointed as the Bears fans.

Example.. I still get cursed at in jest for the Packers win on Soldiers field in the NFC Championship game. After living through decades of struggles prior to that, like the Fridge TD rub it in gesture, you simply soak it in on these streaks we currently are on.. 6 straight that is.
gbguy20  
#46 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:02:13 AM(UTC)
I didn't necessarily mean against the bears this week.
wpr  
#47 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:04:00 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
are we immune from unrealistically high expectations?


Never said Packers fans were. I simply said I enjoy listening to Bears fans etal whine. Or hear them unrealistically say the Bears will win big when I don't think they will and then listen to the followup moaning and gnashing of their teeth afterward.

I don't get a very good signal from Milwaukee during the day and nothing at night and when I do there is very little sports talk on WTMJ. It is difficult for me to get my Packers fix from Milwaukee so I have to get my jollies from the pain and suffering of Bears fans.
wpr  
#48 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:06:56 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
I didn't necessarily mean against the bears this week.


As I said it is all I get on the radio. I just enjoy this week more than most of the other 15 weeks of the season. (Note the season is 17 weeks and there are two Bear-Packer weeks in the season.) Then there is also a day or two after the Bears loss to GB to enjoy. If Chicago wins I find something else to listen to.
wpr  
#49 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:06:42 PM(UTC)
An oldie but a goodie. (Actually not that old. 12-25-11)


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wpr  
#50 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:13:15 PM(UTC)
I know some people don't respect Hawk very much but at least he has his shoulder in there and is wrapping up Forte with 2 hands.


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buckeyepackfan  
#51 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:51:15 PM(UTC)
Looks like Clay is back this week, Woody is definately out, Jordy very doubtful.

I take o look back at this season so far and just wonder how The Packers are where they are.

Packers can't protect Rodgers, Packers can't run the ball,Packers can't get a pass rush,Packers can't defend the pass.

Yet here it is Bear Week 2, and The Packers are 9-4 and poised to take another Division title home.

The old cliche's "the season is not a sprint, it's a marathon and "enjoy the journey", have never sounded so right about this season.

What have we witnessed?

A team that has been able to overcome enormous difficulties.

Starting with the debacle in Seattle, continuing dispite injury after injury to find a way to win 9 games, and now even though it is a small sample, looks like the run game has developed into something the other DC's in the league have to worry about.

We as fans have watched a bunch of kids on defense grow up right before our eyes.

This Is Bears Week!!!

Just as The Pack did against The Lions last week, and 3 weeks before, it's time to show The Bears they don't belong in the playoff race talk.

A blowout win would be fun, but as they usually do, this game will probably be low scoring, defense dominated.

At the end of the day.........Packers 23 Bears 14.

PACKERS WIN ANOTHER DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!

GO! PACK! GO!
Porforis  
#52 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:10:02 PM(UTC)
The defense has done an excellent job coming up big (albeit in less flashy ways than 2010) when the offense has been struggling, and the Packers have been scoring when they need to. The Packers are far from perfect, but there haven't been many boneheaded, game-killing mistakes. Those that we have committed seem like they've been coming earlier in games, where we've had more time to recover (mostly talking about turnovers here).
nerdmann  
#53 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:14:43 PM(UTC)
Bad news, I heard Cutler might not play.

PFT

Quote:
Bears quarterback Jay Cutler was limited in practice today with neck and knee injuries, but the Bears say he’ll be good to go for Sunday’s game against the Packers.


Let's hope he's good to go!
Gaycandybacon  
#54 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:26:49 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Bad news, I heard Cutler might not play.

PFT



Let's hope he's good to go!


Even though Cutler has been shit against us... He gives them a better chance to win. You look at Jason Cambell compared to Jay Cutler and you'll see that Cutler takes a lot more chances than Cambell does. Which nessisarally isn't a bad thing. It converts more third downs. And if you give Cutler all day he'll pick us apart unless we can take away Marshall again. I'd rather see Cambell in there more than Cutler, it's gonna be hard to win in soilder field.. But him playing banged up could give us a better advantage.
nerdmann  
#55 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 2:38:58 AM(UTC)
PFT

And here's the punchline:

Quote:
Per the report, the injury is not nearly as severe as the MCL injury that sidelined him during the 2011 NFC Championship game.


LOL
Porforis  
#56 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 7:11:07 AM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Even though Cutler has been shit against us... He gives them a better chance to win. You look at Jason Cambell compared to Jay Cutler and you'll see that Cutler takes a lot more chances than Cambell does. Which nessisarally isn't a bad thing. It converts more third downs. And if you give Cutler all day he'll pick us apart unless we can take away Marshall again. I'd rather see Cambell in there more than Cutler, it's gonna be hard to win in soilder field.. But him playing banged up could give us a better advantage.


I agree with all of your evidence but disagree with your conclusion. Big plays aren't going to beat us, consistently moving the ball down the field 5-15 yards at a time is going to beat us by wearing down our depleted defense (luckily we get Neal and Matthews back). If we can contain Brandon Marshall as well as we contained Johnson last week (hopefully better), we're good. I just would rather play against a Favre/Cutler type rather than a guy that may not have a cannon arm but doesn't take tons of chances. I'll take the big play threat and Cutler's 3-4 INT-able balls per game any day.
Pack93z  
#57 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 8:31:21 AM(UTC)
Completely honest answer, Jason Campbell is the better overall player between he and Cutler. Pure Physical Talent... that would belong to Cutler, but I would rather take the field with Campbell behind center. Cutler is a lead dog type player, as long as he isn't chasing anything, mentally he is fine. He lacks the composure and mental toughness to prosper in all game situations.

I love the fact that the Bears are and have Jay Cutler... because more often than not, he is going to wilt under the mental pressure.

gbguy20  
#58 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 9:28:44 AM(UTC)
Didn't know where else to put it so I'll put it here:

Please click the link to give the author some hits and to see the rest of the article:
https://www.profootballf...o-packers-bears-week-15/

Quote:
Clay Matthews vs. J’Marcus Webb

The Packers are desperate for the expected return of their only true pass-rushing threat, outside linebacker Clay Matthews, who has been out with a hamstring injury. Surprisingly, the Packers have managed to generate the exact same amount of pressure (29% of their opponents’ drop-backs) in the four games without Matthews, as they were before his absence. So what’s been the difference? In a word — violence. With Matthews in the mix, 44% of Green Bay’s pressures were either hits or sacks. When QBs are getting clobbered, bad things tend to happen for offenses. With Matthews on the sideline that rate has dropped to 24% as the Packers have settled for the less disruptive (and less painful) QB hurry.

Matthews’ profile is a nightmare for left tackles. Typical for an edge rusher, he gets most of his pressure (48%) beating a blocker to the outside. But not so typical is the success of his countermove to the inside (31%). Only 5% of his pressures come on bull rushes.

Without Matthews on the field, opposing tackles can relax a bit because his fellow OLBs are one-trick ponies. For Erik Walden, 57% of his pressures are either unblocked or come so late in the play that the initial move is no longer relevant. That’s probably the easiest explanation for why Walden is yet again one of our lowest-graded pass rushers. Rookie Dezman Moses still needs to develop a repertoire beyond the outside speed rush (79% of his pressures) as he has yet to notch a single pressure off an inside move or bull rush.

With Matthews likely back in the lineup, what will that mean for Bears left tackle J’Marcus Webb? In their Week 2 meeting, it meant two sacks, one hurry, a false start penalty and a scolding from quarterback Jay Cutler. Since then Webb has shown some improvement over his 2011 campaign with a higher cumulative grade in protection and an elevated Pass Blocking Efficiency rating. Webb’s protection profile seems to match up well against Matthews. Like most NFL tackles, he yields about half of his pressures to outside pass rushes, and that’s where he’ll be most susceptible to Matthews’ strengths. Matthews’ countermove, however, will likely be less of a factor, as Webb gets beat to the inside much less (only 14% of pressures yielded) than the league average (33%).
warhawk  
#59 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 10:31:58 AM(UTC)
Most Packers/Bears games are not very pretty. Most Bears games aren't very pretty, period.

The life blood of a Bears win is turnovers. If they get turnovers they can win but if the opposing team can just hold onto the ball they will be in the game.

The Bears haven't beaten a good team all year. Looong ago I predicted (somewhere here) that they would fall big in the second half of the season when they actually play teams that can win.

They are overrated but will still keep this a close game. We have had success winning against them lately but the only game we really handled them like we should was the first one this year. Other than that I felt like we won but it shouldn't have been as close as the games ended up.

That's the Bears though. They think wins like we've been getting lately are a thing of beauty.
Pack93z  
#60 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 2:03:25 PM(UTC)
RutRoh...


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As expected, wide receiver Jordy Nelson was ruled out for the Packers. Guard Josh Sitton didn’t practice on Friday because of a hip injury and he’ll be listed as questionable for Sunday.
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