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Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 8:54:06 AM(UTC)
Boom! You only need to read Jason Wilde's stuff and you'll get everything you need regarding the Packers.

Jason Wilde said:
CHICAGO – Charles Woodson isn’t mad. Well, check that. The Green Bay Packers veteran safety isn’t mad at team physician Dr. Pat McKenzie. He’s mad at the situation.

But Woodson insisted in the wake of Sunday’s 21-13 victory over the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field that he isn’t upset that McKenzie and the Packers medical staff have yet to clear him for game action nearly two months after he broke his collarbone at St. Louis on Oct. 21.

I am pissed, because I want to play. But it’s a mutual decision,” said Woodson, who started practicing two weeks ago and even practiced last week, even though he’d been ruled out on Wednesday. “You know if there was any other way, I’d be playing. But I understand the doctors’ expert opinion, and we’re in agreement 100 percent. So we just want to give it time.”

Woodson made it clear that is going to play again this season. The doctors have not ruled that out, and the team has not placed him on season-ending injured reserve.

“Oh, I’m coming back. I’m coming back. I’m coming back – so don’t worry about that,” Woodson said. Asked if it might be next week against Tennessee, he smiled and replied, “We’ll see. We’ll see.”

Given the way the defense has played without him, Woodson said there’s no reason to take an unnecessary risk.

“We'll sit down against this week, talk it over, and see if we feel like it's a good time to come back and we'll go from there,” Woodson said. “Right now the team is playing well. And we felt like they could come down here and get a ‘W’ whether I played or not. And they did. The consensus is that when I do come back, we're going to make sure it's 100 percent. That's it.”

Asked if he might wait until the playoffs, Woodson replied, “That I don't know. I don't know if I really want to sit and then just come back in the playoffs. Probably much rather get in a game, get some time and game speed, get yourself dirty a little bit. We'll see what happens.”
gbguy20  
#2 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 8:59:36 AM(UTC)
I'm uncomfortable with his first game back being in the playoffs as well. If nothing else let's get him in the Vikings game.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#3 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 9:08:38 AM(UTC)
I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.
gbguy20  
#4 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 9:11:09 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.


I'm hopeful he will only take MD Jennings off the field.
musccy  
#5 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 9:17:37 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.


This is the uncomfortable realization we're all coming to. He's been great, but it's clear he has become a liability at times and hard to believe his coverage skills are an upgrade over Heyward.

Porforis  
#6 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 9:54:29 AM(UTC)
Seems like next week would be a good week to have him back if he's physically ready. Not to say that we can sleep through this game, but if there's hiccups re-implementing him back into the scheme then it's a good time to work out the kinks against the lowly Titans. Then again, if we gamble and hold him out until the playoffs (especially if we play Minnesota in the first round) there could be a bit of a surprise factor that could benefit us.

Then again, I agree with everyone else in that he's probably a slight downgrade in coverage and will give up some free first downs. But he's got better big play capabilities than our other safeties as well as decent at getting pressure on the QB on a blitz.
Zero2Cool  
#7 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:04:46 AM(UTC)
I'm uncomfortable not having Charles Woodson, the 2nd best player at Safety for the Packers not being on the field. He misses lots of tackles, but in the same breathe, he's always willing to stick his nose in there ... I can't say that for the rest of the Packers secondary.

The Packers defense needs Charles Woodson on the field. The good outweighs the bad, easily.
wpr  
#8 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:11:47 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable with his first game back being in the playoffs as well. If nothing else let's get him in the Vikings game.


Exactly. You want to have him back before the games mean anything. Let him play against the minor league team first then step it up the following week.
rabidgopher04  
#9 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:25:54 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable not having Charles Woodson, the 2nd best player at Safety for the Packers not being on the field. He misses lots of tackles, but in the same breathe, he's always willing to stick his nose in there ... I can't say that for the rest of the Packers secondary.

The Packers defense needs Charles Woodson on the field. The good outweighs the bad, easily.


I think the defense has been holding up quite well in the past few weeks. With the paltry output of the offense (compared to last year) the defense has been helping us win games.
PackerTraxx  
#10 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:26:58 AM(UTC)
A limited number of snaps against Tenn might be good, then increase his load against the Vikes and get him ready for the playoffs.
doddpower  
#11 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:55:25 AM(UTC)
I would MUCH rather see Woodson on the field than MD Jennings. Not even a question. Also, it's not that Woodson is really BAD in coverage, it's just that Casey Hayward, Shields, and even House have been really good. Woodson is still average to slightly above average in coverage, especially against certain players and/or tight ends. Having him available would give Dom Capers a lot more flexibility for mixing up packages. There is no doubt in my mind that Dom would love to have him back. Talk about secondary luxury.
SINCITYCHEEZE  
#12 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 2:04:42 PM(UTC)
I would like to see him eased back in against the titans.He's going to need some time to get back up to game speed.We are going to need him against the Vikes.More than likely that game is going to have playoff implications for the Vikes and seeding placement for the Pack.Not to mention the Vikes would like nothing better than to have Peterson to get the rushing record against the Pack.
PackFanWithTwins  
#13 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 2:19:06 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.


He has had a habit of getting holding, and illegal contact calls for his entire time in GB. It is how he has always played.

User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#14 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 3:20:38 PM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
He has had a habit of getting holding, and illegal contact calls for his entire time in GB. It is how he has always played.



No, it gets worse with every step he loses. Back when he played across from Al, we never got many holding calls to the shegrin of our divisional competition. I'm sure Dumbass VR or Formo would testify to that.
Zero2Cool  
#15 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:05:49 PM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
He has had a habit of getting holding, and illegal contact calls for his entire time in GB. It is how he has always played.



Statistically, that is untrue.

Penalties on Woodson since 2008 (all I have data on...boo!)
2008-4
2009-9
2010-12
2011-9
2012-4


I think ANY team would live with the few flags to have a Charles Woodson in their secondary. Any smart team anyhow.
Porforis  
#16 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:51:06 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Statistically, that is untrue.

Penalties on Woodson since 2008 (all I have data on...boo!)
2008-4
2009-9
2010-12
2011-9
2012-4


I think ANY team would live with the few flags to have a Charles Woodson in their secondary. Any smart team anyhow.


While useful data, this doesn't tell us the whole story. Sadly, I wasn't able to find any stats on Times Targeted for DBs which would be an excellent way of measuring Penalties/Target, a much more telling stat. Comparing other useful stats, it seems to fit the above pattern for 2009 and 2011 (in them being comparable seasons across the board), but 2008 and 2012 don't really fit the trends. So, the below stats are pretty darn worthless but here they are anyways:

Passes Defensed:
2008: 17
2009: 18
2010: 13
2011: 17

Tackles:
2008: 50.0
2009: 66.0
2010: 76.0
2011: 62.0

INTs:
2008: 7
2009: 9
2010: 2
2011: 7
polargrizz  
#17 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:58:33 PM(UTC)
CHUCKIE NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT TO PASTURE NOW....IT'S OVER
Zero2Cool  
#18 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 5:56:34 PM(UTC)
Charles Woodson QB Rating of passes targeted to his responsibility.
2012: 73.7
2011: 66.1
2010: 85.3
2009: 63.0
2008: 38.3
buckeyepackfan  
#19 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:30:32 PM(UTC)
Playoff experience out weighs any "negatives" that are or are not true about Charles Woodson.

Hell before he was injured, he was playing just as much OLB as he was S.

I like the fact that The Packers D is much less "vanilla" when Woody is on the field!!!!

Life is better with MORE WOODY!!!!! :-k
nerdmann  
#20 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:48:55 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.


Try him opposite Clay.

He might be a little light against the run, but he can both cover AND rush the passer.
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