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Offline SINCITYCHEEZE  
#121 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 2:13:54 PM(UTC)
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Tomorrow is tryout Tuesday.Let's hope they bring in some bodies for a look see. Just to have some options and maybe light a fire under "Missing" Crosby ass.
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#122 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 3:56:37 PM(UTC)
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Much to the dismay of many ... there is not a better Kicker available. Packers are stuck with Mason Crosby.
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#123 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:31:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Much to the dismay of many ... there is not a better Kicker available. Packers are stuck with Mason Crosby.


He is literally the worst kicker on any nfl team right now, and statistically, by an appreciable amount.
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#124 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:52:51 PM(UTC)
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Somebody mentioned Billy Kundoff as being the only kicker with worse stats than Mason this year.

Yet when Chicago needed a kicker last week he was one of 3 or 4 guys who was invited to try out.

Obviously the opnions that count have decided Crosby is The Packers best option moving forward.

Hell if they got rid of Crosby, then who would people have to gripe about?

Now if Al Del Greco "The greatest football player ever" was available I'd be sayin' bye bye Mason!!!!
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#125 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 5:46:59 PM(UTC)
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Why doesn't he spend some time with the "kicking Guru". I can't recall his name - maybe Sailor? I mean the guy earns a million plus, wouldn't it be worth thousands to protect that job? I like Crosby because he's not a complainer, keeps plugging and especially his let strength. But results are what count.


Why? Because Slocum does a lot of research and has had a career of coaching special teams:

http://www.jsonline.com/...s-fh7n94k-180077441.html

Slocum wrote:
Slocum scoffed at the notion of bringing in a kicking specialist.

"No. I do a lot of research," he said. "I think I can coach kickers with anybody. I do all that type of research. I have a career of coaching, coaching special teams; I don't feel a need to do that."
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#126 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:00:20 PM(UTC)
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lol that 1 of 8 50+ really kills Mason Crosby

30-39 5 of 7
40-49 7 of 10
50+ 1 of 8
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#127 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:05:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
lol that 1 of 8 50+ really kills Mason Crosby

30-39 5 of 7
40-49 7 of 10
50+ 1 of 8


it is his last two kicks of 40-49 that bother me the most. 0-2 and he shows signs of lack of confidence.
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#128 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:27:54 PM(UTC)
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it is his last two kicks of 40-49 that bother me the most. 0-2 and he shows signs of lack of confidence.


What bothers me is making him attempt field goals that long with the problems he's having. Mason is a delicate snowflake right now. I'm thinking trial by fire isn't the best approach.
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#129 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:28:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
Why? Because Slocum does a lot of research and has had a career of coaching special teams:

http://www.jsonline.com/...s-fh7n94k-180077441.html



Quote:
Slocum said:
Slocum scoffed at the notion of bringing in a kicking specialist.

"No. I do a lot of research," he said. "I think I can coach kickers with anybody. I do all that type of research. I have a career of coaching, coaching special teams; I don't feel a need to do that."


He's doing a bang up job.
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#130 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:42:27 PM(UTC)
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What bothers me is making him attempt field goals that long with the problems he's having. Mason is a delicate snowflake right now. I'm thinking trial by fire isn't the best approach.


There have been 134 50+ attempted this year, with 81 being made in the league (60%).

I agree with what you're saying to an extent. The 55 yarders are maybe excessive and that hasn't helped his cause, but he's paid to make kicks. If you eliminate ALL of Mason's 50+ yarders, and then compare him to the rest of the league ( NOT selectively removing their 50 yarders) he's STILL tied for #28 in the league out of 31 in fg %

How can there not be better options available?
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#131 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:59:15 PM(UTC)
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If only McCarthy abandons Crosby as fast as he does the run.
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#132 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:56:39 AM(UTC)
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I wouldn't say we are without options. If Crosby has just one more bad game v. TEN, I would not hesitate to bring Longwell in to kick all of our FGs, and release WR Ross. Keep Crosby for KOs. Use Longwell for FGs. We have to have some decent measure of confidence that we can make 30-50 yd FGs in the playoffs.

Hell, I wouldn't wait. I'd make that move now. Get Longwell acclimated back in GB. This game v. TEN is as important to us as any right now. We must insure we stay ahead of SEA, and at least try to get ahead of SF.
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#133 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:37:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Much to the dismay of many ... there is not a better Kicker available. Packers are stuck with Mason Crosby.


This seems to be a popular opinion. And a stupid one. The Bears got Olindo Mare from his couch and made 2 fgs.

If you actually think one of the FA kickers out there can't make more than 50% of their fgs, you are out of your mind.

We don't need a Pro Bowler, we need someone who can make a 40 yard fg on a consistent basis.
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#134 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:28:47 AM(UTC)
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For the record, you cannot have Solid to Pro Bowl players at every position. I would MUCH rather have a Solid OL and a mediocre Kicker than a Solid Kicker and a mediocre OL.

$$$ is limited. I'd bet in the offseason, [tt] goes for D and OL and we keep Crosby. Had our OL been even above average, we wouldn't be having this discussion. We'd be blowing out teams left and right. Our D is above average now and the ONLY thing holding us back on O is our OL.
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#135 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:00:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: IronMan Go to Quoted Post
This seems to be a popular opinion. And a stupid one. The Bears got Olindo Mare from his couch and made 2 fgs.

If you actually think one of the FA kickers out there can't make more than 50% of their fgs, you are out of your mind.

We don't need a Pro Bowler, we need someone who can make a 40 yard fg on a consistent basis.


only stupid people claim others opinions are stupid, so there.


and Crosby is fine with 40 yard field goals, its when you go 42, 43 and higher that he gets a little bit tricky lol ... and if its 50+ ... punt instead

20-29 4 of 4 - 100%
30-39 5 of 7 - 71.4%
40-49 7 of 10 - 70%
50+ 1 of 8 - 12.5%


20-49 16 of 21 - 76.2%


So, he's already above 50%, but really, I think a kicker needs to be 83% or higher on those. And missing two out of seven between 30-39 ... just feels shitty to me.


I'd like to see the Packers bring in a kicker to at least try someone else out.
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