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Offline doddpower  
#11 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:55:25 AM(UTC)
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I would MUCH rather see Woodson on the field than MD Jennings. Not even a question. Also, it's not that Woodson is really BAD in coverage, it's just that Casey Hayward, Shields, and even House have been really good. Woodson is still average to slightly above average in coverage, especially against certain players and/or tight ends. Having him available would give Dom Capers a lot more flexibility for mixing up packages. There is no doubt in my mind that Dom would love to have him back. Talk about secondary luxury.
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#12 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 2:04:42 PM(UTC)
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I would like to see him eased back in against the titans.He's going to need some time to get back up to game speed.We are going to need him against the Vikes.More than likely that game is going to have playoff implications for the Vikes and seeding placement for the Pack.Not to mention the Vikes would like nothing better than to have Peterson to get the rushing record against the Pack.
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I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.


He has had a habit of getting holding, and illegal contact calls for his entire time in GB. It is how he has always played.

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#14 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 3:20:38 PM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
He has had a habit of getting holding, and illegal contact calls for his entire time in GB. It is how he has always played.



No, it gets worse with every step he loses. Back when he played across from Al, we never got many holding calls to the shegrin of our divisional competition. I'm sure Dumbass VR or Formo would testify to that.
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
He has had a habit of getting holding, and illegal contact calls for his entire time in GB. It is how he has always played.



Statistically, that is untrue.

Penalties on Woodson since 2008 (all I have data on...boo!)
2008-4
2009-9
2010-12
2011-9
2012-4


I think ANY team would live with the few flags to have a Charles Woodson in their secondary. Any smart team anyhow.
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Statistically, that is untrue.

Penalties on Woodson since 2008 (all I have data on...boo!)
2008-4
2009-9
2010-12
2011-9
2012-4


I think ANY team would live with the few flags to have a Charles Woodson in their secondary. Any smart team anyhow.


While useful data, this doesn't tell us the whole story. Sadly, I wasn't able to find any stats on Times Targeted for DBs which would be an excellent way of measuring Penalties/Target, a much more telling stat. Comparing other useful stats, it seems to fit the above pattern for 2009 and 2011 (in them being comparable seasons across the board), but 2008 and 2012 don't really fit the trends. So, the below stats are pretty darn worthless but here they are anyways:

Passes Defensed:
2008: 17
2009: 18
2010: 13
2011: 17

Tackles:
2008: 50.0
2009: 66.0
2010: 76.0
2011: 62.0

INTs:
2008: 7
2009: 9
2010: 2
2011: 7
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Charles Woodson QB Rating of passes targeted to his responsibility.
2012: 73.7
2011: 66.1
2010: 85.3
2009: 63.0
2008: 38.3
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Playoff experience out weighs any "negatives" that are or are not true about Charles Woodson.

Hell before he was injured, he was playing just as much OLB as he was S.

I like the fact that The Packers D is much less "vanilla" when Woody is on the field!!!!

Life is better with MORE WOODY!!!!! :-k
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DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm uncomfortable for his propensity for holding calls giving a free 5 yards and a first down. I'm also uncomfortable with him taking Hayward and House off the field. His only position should be strong safety in obvious run situations or as a blitzer. This is a game of speed and Wood is in the same boat as Urlacher. It will be really interesting if he is retained next year with his high cap number.


Try him opposite Clay.

He might be a little light against the run, but he can both cover AND rush the passer.
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