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Online musccy  
#61 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:39:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
Porforis, then we put trained armed guards in each school.
That would greatly lower any possible violent crime.
Yes, it would cost. But if saving kids means taking away some music or sports activity to pay for it, which is more important?
It could be done, and it would work.


Didn't Walker just cut 2.6 billion from public education and prohibit communities from voting to raise taxes to counter his attack on public education? Sports, support staff, and fine arts programs are already being being removed left and right. Should we just limit ourselves to 2 of the 3 Rs? Maybe we just homeschool everyone?



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#62 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:41:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: musccy Go to Quoted Post
Didn't Walker just cut 2.6 billion from public education and prohibit communities from voting to raise taxes to counter his attack on public education? Sports, support staff, and fine arts programs are already being being removed left and right. Should we just limit ourselves to 2 of the 3 Rs? Maybe we just homeschool everyone?


Whatever it takes so that wealthy men with weak backs, cold hearts, and no consciences can avoid paying taxes.
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#63 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:46:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
When you are talkig about someone that is 100% proven guilty of a crime like this, should they NOT have their life taken away?
I'm a conservative......yet if someone breaks into my home, and threatens me or my wife, am i supposed to just let them do whatever they want? Should i NOT shoot them if they try to attack because i'm a conservative?


There's a huge, massive difference between you taking a life in self-defense and taking a life after you have arrested a person, put them in cuffs, and they are no longer a danger to anybody. Yes, they can be violent in prison - Then throw them in solitary. But granting government the ultimate right to determine who lives and who dies is far from a conservative stance.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey Go to Quoted Post
Conservatives go off to war to protect our country. Should they not do that either? After all, it may mean killing someone.


Liberals do too, and that's a lot trickier subject we'd no doubt go on for pages and pages for. The only thing I'm addressing is the suggestion that we should just execute someone that commits any crime with possession of a gun.

Furthermore, how far do we take such a law (not that you were the one to suggest it)? If someone's legally carrying a firearm via concealed carry and gets into an altercation with someone but never touches the gun, should he be killed? What if he starts a fight out of his own stupidity, is getting his head pounded in, and pulls a gun to end the fight before his brains are splattered over the pavement? Does killing someone in either of these circumstances seem reasonable and just?
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#64 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:47:15 PM(UTC)
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Fox News?


nope. WIFR.
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#65 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:51:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I think all that is being asked for by concerened citizens is that automatic weapons are eliminated, yet right away all the freaks come out with their rhetoric about doing away with the 2nd ammendment. It's this over-reaction and refusal for a discussion that irritates me, and it is the same thing with the need to raise our current taxes.


Yeah, that's all that's being asked, right? Eliminating automatic weapons? Gee whiz, here I thought everyone that mattered (President Obama, congressional Democrats) wanted to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban which would regulate everything from a folding or telescoping stock to a pistol grip, barrel shroud, threaded barrel, semi-auto pistols that weigh more than 50oz when unloaded.

Gee whiz, I guess I've just been silly. Here they just wanted to take machine guns away from private citizens.
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#66 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:52:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
nope. WIFR.


WTF?

Don't know that acronym.
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#67 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:52:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
nope. WIFR.



Er, what does WIFR stand for?
None of the above. It wouldn't have been a wasted vote. Obama and Romney -- Those were the wasted votes.
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#68 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:53:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, that's all that's being asked, right? Eliminating automatic weapons? Gee whiz, here I thought everyone that mattered (President Obama, congressional Democrats) wanted to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban which would regulate everything from a folding or telescoping stock to a pistol grip, barrel shroud, threaded barrel, semi-auto pistols that weigh more than 50oz when unloaded.

Gee whiz, I guess I've just been silly. Here they just wanted to take machine guns away from private citizens.


Maybe I have more reading to do. Big Grin
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#69 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:04:11 PM(UTC)
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http://www.wifr.com/ Rockford's CBS afiliate?
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#70 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:08:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wade Go to Quoted Post
Er, what does WIFR stand for?


It doesn't stand for anything. That's the call letters assigned by the FCC to the CBS station in Rockford.

But I understand your confusion. My wife was actually watching the ABC station WTVO at the time.
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#71 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:08:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: musccy Go to Quoted Post
http://www.wifr.com/ Rockford's CBS afiliate?


yep. well done.
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#72 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:10:09 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
WTF?

Don't know that acronym.


and here I thought you knew everything. I am shocked. Shocked I tell you.
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#73 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:14:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
and here I thought you knew everything. I am shocked. Shocked I tell you.


All I am is a bull shit detector. With friends like all of you, what do I need to know anything for. I'm just here to tell you when you are full of shit.
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#74 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:33:46 PM(UTC)
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All I am is a bull shit detector. With friends like all of you, what do I need to know anything for. I'm just here to tell you when you are full of shit.


ouch that hurts.
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#75 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:42:30 PM(UTC)
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The National Rifle Association broke its silence Tuesday on the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting massacre in which a young man killed 27 people, 20 of them children slaughtered in their classrooms.

In a statement sent to reporters Tuesday afternoon, the nation’s largest gun-rights lobbying organization said it was “prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.”

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