Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Gaycandybacon  
#1 Posted : Monday, December 31, 2012 9:02:15 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member

United States
Joined: 9/17/2012(UTC)
Applause Given: 146
Applause Received: 187
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0...h-fired-by-chicago-bears

Quote:
We have our first surprising name to be fired on Black Monday. Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith was fired Monday, according to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport. Smith met with upper management this morning. Bears assistants were very nervous, according to Rapoport.

Smith had a few things working against him, starting with the reality that he hasn't made the playoffs for five of the last six years. An even bigger factor: GM Phil Emery was just hired last year. New decision makers usually want to bring in their own head coaches.

NFL.com's Albert Breer reported last week that Emery and other GM candidates were told a year ago that they had to keep Smith for 2012, but Smith's future after that would be up to them. Now Emery exercised that right. The Bears failed to make the playoffs after a 7-1 start. While Smith's defense is still dangerous, he's consistently been unable to improve the offense through his staff hires.

Smith coached the Bears for nine seasons, making the playoffs three times, including one Super Bowl appearance. The defense was always good, but this was a team that more often hung around the middle of the NFL.

With Smith out, Jay Cutler is going to have to start over with another offensive coordinator. A defense full of players fit to Smith's scheme may not fit well anymore.

This was a sensible time to make a change, but the Bears may have to take a step back in 2013 before taking a step forward.



Imagine if we won yesterday.. This might have never happened :-k
Offline DakotaT  
#2 Posted : Monday, December 31, 2012 9:16:43 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1,049
Applause Received: 2,116
God dammit - I wanted that man there forever! Always loved the deer in the headlights look when something went bad, backed by the arrogance that he thought he had it all under control. If Andy Reid gets hired by the Bears, he might actually turn Cutler into a good quarterback. What a horrible turn of events.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
Packerchick on 12/31/2012(UTC)
Offline wpr  
#3 Posted : Monday, December 31, 2012 9:53:37 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,965
Applause Received: 2,025
UPDATE: Fox Sports insider and NFL Network contributor Jay Glazer notes the Bears have already asked for permission to interview Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy.

same link as above
Offline dfosterf  
#4 Posted : Monday, December 31, 2012 3:26:14 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 228
Applause Received: 478
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
God dammit - I wanted that man there forever! Always loved the deer in the headlights look when something went bad, backed by the arrongance that he thought he had it all under control. If Andy Reid gets hired by the Bears, he might actually turn Cutler into a good quarterback. What a horrible turn of events.


He was easy to hate for us Packer fans, and I'm personally happy he got shit-canned, but I still think he was an excellent head coach. I would also worry if the Bears hired Andy. I'm not too concerned, as manglement in Chicago is too stupid to hang on to Smith, so practically by definition they would be too stupid to hire Reid.
Offline DakotaT  
#5 Posted : Monday, December 31, 2012 3:53:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1,049
Applause Received: 2,116
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
He was easy to hate for us Packer fans, and I'm personally happy he got shit-canned, but I still think he was an excellent head coach. I would also worry if the Bears hired Andy. I'm not too concerned, as manglement in Chicago is too stupid to hang on to Smith, so practically by definition they would be too stupid to hire Reid.


Gunny, it's the ultimate compliment to influence another man's avatar. You carry me with now don't you? ThumpUp
Offline dfosterf  
#6 Posted : Monday, December 31, 2012 3:57:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 228
Applause Received: 478
I'm still attempting to discern my shit from my shinola.

Flapper

Offline zombieslayer  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 1, 2013 11:58:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco
Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495
He was an AWFUL HC. He was a BRILLIANT DC.

If our D bombs in the Playoffs, fire Dom and hire Lovie Smith as our DC. I'm dead serious. Devon Hester will request a trade to the Packers if this happens. Hester's love for Smith is well known.

If we have Hester as our returner and Lovie Smith as our DC, and shore up the OL with one or two workable players (they don't have to be Solid, just average is fine), we'll go 17-2 next year with a SB win. Easily.

Of course, this is a pipe dream. We'll never see Smith as a DC on the Packers. For some strange reason, Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy are sold on Dom. I have no idea why. Opposing Os have him figured out.

Now Smith has had a top 5 D five times. Dom has had one. 5 > 1. And it's not because of a lack of talent on our side.
Offline DakotaT  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:40:56 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1,049
Applause Received: 2,116
Zombie, you are talking out of your ass. We do not have the personnel to play a cover 2 sysetem because we have been building a 3-4 defense. It'd take 2-3 years to make the conversion over, and I don't even believe that is a shut down defense. It is a defense built to make an offense go on long drives, but it's weakness is up the seams and there are too many good tight ends in this league that shred cover 2s.

Lovie's supposed success was built on beating up the weak sisters of the league and he has never been able to piss with the big boys, even with that very strong team that went to the super bowl a decade ago.
Offline zombieslayer  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 1, 2013 5:58:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco
Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Zombie, you are talking out of your ass. We do not have the personnel to play a cover 2 sysetem because we have been building a 3-4 defense. It'd take 2-3 years to make the conversion over, and I don't even believe that is a shut down defense. It is a defense built to make an offense go on long drives, but it's weakness is up the seams and there are too many good tight ends in this league that shred cover 2s.

Lovie's supposed success was built on beating up the weak sisters of the league and he has never been able to piss with the big boys, even with that very strong team that went to the super bowl a decade ago.


I am talking out of my ass. Rockmolder corrected me. Had no idea how many changes we'd have to make if we installed Lovie Smith as DC. Most importantly, we'd take away CM3's best skills.

So, I retract what I said about Lovie Smith.
Offline Gaycandybacon  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 2, 2013 2:47:15 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member

United States
Joined: 9/17/2012(UTC)
Applause Given: 146
Applause Received: 187
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
I am talking out of my ass. Rockmolder corrected me. Had no idea how many changes we'd have to make if we installed Lovie Smith as DC. Most importantly, we'd take away CM3's best skills.

So, I retract what I said about Lovie Smith.


I think Clay could play like how the Broncos use Von Miller in the 4-3. Clay could play anywhere unlike Peppers I think Smith could utilize him much much better than you think.

But Capers is not a bad coach at all. Can't blame coaching for everything I think if we stink it up in the playoffs he may get one more shot. Because starting this year we're sorta starting to rebuild a defense.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
GoPack1984 (2h) : I hope not. Please be something like 41-28 Packers.
uffda udfa (2h) : I agree with Chmura. This looks like a double 40 burger.
uffda udfa (2h) : The hug on the sidelines?
uffda udfa (2h) : What seemed so emotional?
Zero2Cool (2h) : No, but I am curious why that seemed so emotional. I might be reading into it too much.
uffda udfa (3h) : Anyone ever get confused looking at Alex Van Pelt thinking it's MM?
uffda udfa (4h) : I hope they aren't going to dial it down believing in destiny .
Zero2Cool (5h) : Jason Wilde: Packers "feel like a team of destiny"
uffda udfa (7h) : They'll need all the Julio Joneses they can get.
Zero2Cool (7h) : Chmura: "I'll tell you this: Atlanta's going to score 40 points. They are. The #Packers are going to have to score 41."
Zero2Cool (12h) : Damn-Falcons coach Dan Quinn tells reporters that WR Julio Jones (foot) will be limited this week but will be “ready to rock” on Sunday.
Zero2Cool (12h) : Packers defense has a red zone INT in each of the last 3 games... Hyde with two of them. (One being the clutch 4thQ INT vs DET in Week 17)
Zero2Cool (13h) : Randall Cobb, Damarious Randall, Quentin Rollins, James Starks, Clay Matthews, Ty Montgomery & Jared Cook. OUT
Zero2Cool (13h) : Packers inactive list when they lost 33-32 to the Falcons week 8.
Zero2Cool (14h) : There is no emphasis, it's just a little bit of info. Take it or leave it. No harm.
Smokey (14h) : Zero, I believe that you and some others place too much emphasis upon data. no harm intended.
Zero2Cool (15h) : It’s the 1st time since 1970 all 4 conference championship teams finished the regular season on winning streaks of 4+ games
TheKanataThrilla (15h) : Salt mine. Love it.
TheKanataThrilla (15h) : The refs kept that game close. We should have blown them out early.
DarkaneRules (15h) : Hyde and Gunter are special and I'm hopeful D Ran gets back to where he can be
mi_keys (15h) : That whole forum is a salt mine. It's beautiful.
Zero2Cool (15h) : Burnett's back up, Kentrell Brice lead team in tackles.
uffda udfa (20h) : Hilarious reading below. I like Carter. Only guy who gets it.
uffda udfa (20h) : http://boards.dallascowboys.com/topic/71647-so-we-are-supposed-to-believe/#entry3978081
uffda udfa (21h) : Great news.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Jordy has "legitimate hope" to play, per @RobDemovsky.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Packers had one call on defense if called, no issue, wans't called. I didn't watch OL so dunno. I watched WR's
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Dallas OL had some holds weren't called and 2 defensive holds, not called.
uffda udfa (16-Jan) : I think the Pi vs just a holding call is a legit complaint. Terrible call.
GoPack1984 (16-Jan) : Dallas can't complain about the officials. They got away with so many defensive holding calls.
uffda udfa (16-Jan) : Dallas radio postgame: Dallas wins 7 out of 10 times.
uffda udfa (16-Jan) : Brice led Pack w/ 6 tackles including the hardest of the game.
uffda udfa (16-Jan) : Post game show said same thing. Everyone wondering how it didn't stay left.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Tornado warning forces players, fans to stay put at AT&T Stadium
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Skip:More I see winning FG, more I see a very weird thing: It hooked hard left, then straightened out. Obviously no wind. Like meant to be
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
15m / Green Bay Packers Talk / RaiderPride

24m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

49m / Green Bay Packers Talk / The_Green_Ninja

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

2h / Fantasy Sports Talk / rabidgopher04

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Rick12

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Rick12

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

9h / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool


Packers Headlines