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Offline Pack93z  
#21 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 6:15:47 AM(UTC)
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It is my belief, that without the benefit of the play action, Ponder at this point cannot beat us.. so if we stop Peterson..

So ordinarily I would agree with the concept, but I just don't think Ponder with a bum elbow (listed as questionable) and playing in his first cold weather game can beat us.

So alas.. stop Peterson.. we improve our chances significantly. Hence the thread on this game.


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Christian Ponder, QB Questionable Jan 4
Comment: Ponder (elbow) was limited for a third consecutive practice Friday and is listed as quesitonable for Saturday's playoff game at Green Bay. However, he's expected to start. "I think he'll be all right," head coach Leslie Frazier told ESPN 1500 am Twin Cities on Thursday. "He's going to do everything he can to make sure he's ready to go. He's doing a lot more stuff mentally than physical right now. But he should be fine."

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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#22 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:22:28 AM(UTC)
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You won't stop Peterson. EVERY DC IN THE NFL thinks they can stop Peterson and what happens? Peterson gets his yards and Ponder finds people wide open.

So, don't.

Someone please even try to refute the facts I posted up there. I can go back years too. Every year, it's the same thing. GB vs Vikings - Peterson gets his yards, we win because we stopped the pass. The exceptions - well, there are 3 of them. Brett Favre throws for 7 TDs vs 0 INTs in 2 games and we lose them both (2009). Ponder has a 100+ rating last week and we lost that one.

So, stop the pass. AD will get his yards. AD = best player in the NFL, and that's not even debatable. These sports writers who are saying otherwise should be force-ably sterilized because one generation of idiots is enough.

Refute those facts I shared. I dare ya.

(I only went back 2 years because I'm lazy, but if you want to go back longer, you'll see the same thing - stop the pass and you beat the Vikings. Key in on stopping Peterson and you lose. Brett Favre sweep in 2009. Christian Ponder victory in 2012. What did those 3 games have in common? Anyone?)
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#23 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 10:54:35 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
You won't stop Peterson. EVERY DC IN THE NFL thinks they can stop Peterson and what happens? Peterson gets his yards and Ponder finds people wide open.

So, don't.

Someone please even try to refute the facts I posted up there. I can go back years too. Every year, it's the same thing. GB vs Vikings - Peterson gets his yards, we win because we stopped the pass. The exceptions - well, there are 3 of them. Brett Favre throws for 7 TDs vs 0 INTs in 2 games and we lose them both (2009). Ponder has a 100+ rating last week and we lost that one.

So, stop the pass. AD will get his yards. AD = best player in the NFL, and that's not even debatable. These sports writers who are saying otherwise should be force-ably sterilized because one generation of idiots is enough.

Refute those facts I shared. I dare ya.

(I only went back 2 years because I'm lazy, but if you want to go back longer, you'll see the same thing - stop the pass and you beat the Vikings. Key in on stopping Peterson and you lose. Brett Favre sweep in 2009. Christian Ponder victory in 2012. What did those 3 games have in common? Anyone?)


AP will get his yards, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't contain him.

Let him take 8:00 off the clock to get 60 yards, rather than doing it all in one play.
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#24 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 1:03:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post

Refute those facts I shared. I dare ya.


No one needs to refute those "facts"... there is a reason I posted this for this game. Ponder is winged... it will be even more dependent upon AP to keep them in it. To be clear... to me.. 100 and a score is containing him.

This thread has two purposes.. one.. take away the Vikings on facet.

Second, to give those that want to walk Capers a platform to tell him how to fix it.
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#25 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 1:26:53 PM(UTC)
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But Zombie.. want a fact.

The Packers ran over 20 times the first game they played the Vikes.. won.. ran 16 times the second game.. lost.

Now.. prove that fact wrong.. or the many that I have posted with regards to running the ball over 20 time vs under and the winning percentages between the two. Your not the only one that pays attention to history. Big Grin

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#26 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:08:16 PM(UTC)
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Here's my thoughts as Dom Capers on how to stop AP:

Look, the dude's not married, right? Fill his Green Bay hotel bed with a couple of hot bodies to wear him out all night, then he won't have the legs to last four quarters.

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#27 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:27:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
But Zombie.. want a fact.

The Packers ran over 20 times the first game they played the Vikes.. won.. ran 16 times the second game.. lost.

Now.. prove that fact wrong.. or the many that I have posted with regards to running the ball over 20 time vs under and the winning percentages between the two. Your not the only one that pays attention to history. Big Grin


Holy No Ability to Stay On Topic Batman!

We're talking about Dom Capers and stopping the Vikings.
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#28 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:31:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
Here's my thoughts as Dom Capers on how to stop AP:

Look, the dude's not married, right? Fill his Green Bay hotel bed with a couple of hot bodies to wear him out all night, then he won't have the legs to last four quarters.

Packerchick? 4PackGirl? Whistle



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#29 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:47:46 PM(UTC)
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OK, I can't make it any more clear than this. When the Vikings' QB has a solid day, we lose. When the Vikings' QB has a bad day, we win. AD cannot be stopped. We never stopped him before and we probably won't stop him until 2016.

AD has run 200+ yards and 170+ yards in defeats. It doesn't matter what AD does. What matters is what their QB does.

Here you go. I went back 4 years and there's not a single exception to my thesis. Not one.

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2009
Brett Favre 24-31-271-3-0 Result - 30-23 Vikings
Brett Favre 17-28-244-4-0 Result - 38-26 Vikings

2010
Brett Favre 16-29-212-1-3 Result - Packers 28-24
Brett Favre 17-38-208-0-1 Result - Packers 31-3

2011
Christian Ponder 13-32-219-2-2 Result - Packers 33-27
Christian Ponder 16-34-190-0-1 Result - Packers 45-7

2012
Christian Ponder 12-25-119-1-2 Result - Packers 23-14
Christian Ponder 16-28-234-3-0 Result - Vikings 37-34

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Offline Wade  
#30 Posted : Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:55:56 PM(UTC)
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What zombieslayer said.

What nerdmann said.

Plus if the Packers are up by 17-21 at the half, it won't matter.
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