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User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:58:30 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Like MN, the running game is important to SF. Not so much to GB other than to keep the other teams from sacking Aaron Rodgers every other down.


That checkdown to Dujaun Harris has been a thing of beauty. I'm not so worried about their Defense with a one armed Justin Smith, cause Aldon Smith is a one trick pony without him. Their defense as a whole is hard hitting, so our boys just have to man up. I really don't think we are as soft as we were in game 1, so anybody thinking San Francisco is going to man handle us again is in for a rude awakening.
warhawk  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:45:11 AM(UTC)
Just some general observations.

When it's 2nd round playoff time teams are usually pretty even. Look to the better QB to be the difference.

The 49'r pass rush is always sited yet the Packers have 9 more sacks and that was with CM3 out a month.

The lack of a balanced offense is often sited as a shortcoming for the Packers yet they are one of only four teams that average over 250 ypg passing and 100 ypg rushing. Two of the other three are NE and Denver. The tops seeds over in the AFC.

Finally, the Packers have now seen what the 49r's will do defensively over and over and you can see how McCarthy has adapted with Harris and the offense. The offense is now comfortable with what they have to do to be more effective when the defense has taken away the big play opportunites.

That and the fact we had four or five players in their first pro game in there defensively at any one time that first go around and what was Bush doing in there anyhow?. They are much more ready for this now.

Zero2Cool  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:16:56 AM(UTC)
2010 Packers faced their week 1 opponent in the playoffs, the Eagles.

2010 Eagles, Falcons, Bears. Packers played each during the season.
2012 Vikings, 49ers and possibly Seahawks.


Irrelevant observation, yes.
gbguy20  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:22:00 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
2010 Packers faced their week 1 opponent in the playoffs, the Eagles.

2010 Eagles, Falcons, Bears. Packers played each during the season.
2012 Vikings, 49ers and possibly Seahawks.



Irrelevant observation, yes.


care to explain the significance of said irrelevant observation? I don't get it :-k
Packers_Finland  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:26:34 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
2010 Packers faced their week 1 opponent in the playoffs, the Eagles.

2010 Eagles, Falcons, Bears. Packers played each during the season.
2012 Vikings, 49ers and possibly Seahawks.


Irrelevant observation, yes.


I'm not a superstitious man but I do like this train of thought.
earthquake  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:28:36 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
care to explain the significance of said irrelevant observation? I don't get it :-k


In 2010 the Packers faced each of their (NFC) playoff opponents earlier in the regular season.

If the Packers and Seahawks win this weekend, they will do the same once again.
gbguy20  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:30:11 AM(UTC)
In that case, we would have lost to all 3 of our playoff opponents earlier in the regular season, not sure if like.
warhawk  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:34:33 AM(UTC)
I was thinking of this myself about how nice it would be to take down the 49'rs and could hardly wait if it works out we get Seattle at our place.

That's justice and clearly shows whose best when it counts the most.

I so hope we put the 49r's away and the Seahawks beat Atlanta. I'm sure the Packers players want that more than you or me.
gbguy20  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:40:19 AM(UTC)
Twitter lead me to this article on a 49ers blog:

Quote:
Cosell: “I don’t think Aaron Rodgers is playing particularly great football.”
Posted on January 8, 2013 by Grant Cohn

Greg Cosell spoke on KNBR Monday afternoon. Here’s what he said about Aaron Rodgers.

Q: How good is Aaron Rodgers, and can the 49ers contain him?

COSELL: I’m not saying this to be bold or controversial, but I don’t think Aaron Rodgers is playing particularly great football. I think he’s so physically gifted – he can throw it on the run better than anyone in this league – but he’s leaving an awful lot of plays on the field.

I think he’s indecisive and tentative in the pocket. He’s not pulling the trigger on throws that are there. I think this has been an ongoing thing all throughout the season.

Some people would say I’m nitpicking because of his numbers, but he’s so physically gifted that there are times that he still makes plays. The biggest concern with Aaron Rodgers and their pass offense right now is not the rhythmic flow of it, it’s the extension of plays. That’s where he’s at his best right now.

I would bet that the Packers will have to do some chipping with Jermichael Finley, with back, because their right tackle, Don Barclay, and quite frankly their left tackle, Marshall Newhouse, I don’t think they’re going to be able to block Ahmad Brooks or Aldon Smith.

Q: Why do you think Rodgers is leaving a lot of plays on the field?

COSELL: Sometimes he’ll leave plays on the field, move and make another play. Sometimes he’ll leave plays on the field, move and get sacked. His first two sacks this week were on him. He didn’t pull the trigger to open receivers and then he couldn’t get away. The defense then beat him. There’s been stretches of this season where he’s been like this. But he’s so physically gifted where he’ll make throws and you’ll go, “Wow, not many people make that throw.”

Q: It seems like their offense is not fazed when their in third and eight, third and 12.

COSELL: And that’s what you have to be concerned about. The burden Rodgers puts on your defense is this: No defense is built to cover, whether it’s zone or man, for four, five or six seconds. No defense it built to do that. And Rodgers, with his ability to extend plays – not only extend them, but then make throws at the intermediate and deeper levels, which is something not a lot of quarterbacks can do – that’s the burden he puts on your defense.


- greg cosell

Sure seems to be exactly what we have been discussing all season, here. Week 1 vs the niners was a perfect example of exactly what he is talking about. Watching film of that game rodgers took sacks instead of throwing it into the holes left by blitzing linebackers, missed out on at least 1 easy touchdown because of it. Let's hope it doesn't cost us the game this time.


edit: I hate the fact that this post is negative and I wasn't able to save it. Someone help me.

edit2: I'll turn it positive by stealing someone else's tweet:

Quote:
Melinda B ‏@ilovemypackers

Oh shit.. all these quakes in Northern and Central CA right now.. think the Niners are watching Packers film? #Scared #QuiveringInTheirShoes
earthquake  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:42:07 AM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
I was thinking of this myself about how nice it would be to take down the 49'rs and could hardly wait if it works out we get Seattle at our place.

That's justice and clearly shows whose best when it counts the most.

I so hope we put the 49r's away and the Seahawks beat Atlanta. I'm sure the Packers players want that more than you or me.


Yeah this is how I feel too, though I wouldn't be too worried about GB having to travel to the dome in Hotlanta where they absolutely own the Falcons.
Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:12:16 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
In that case, we would have lost to all 3 of our playoff opponents earlier in the regular season, not sure if like.


Packers lost to Falcons during the regular season in 2010 and squeaked out a win in the Divisional playoff game against them.
gbguy20  
#32 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:20:29 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Packers lost to Falcons during the regular season in 2010 and squeaked out a win in the Divisional playoff game against them.


48-21 domination of them. One of my fondest playoff memories ever.
warhawk  
#33 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 1:40:13 PM(UTC)
I understand it's good press and people love hearing about young athletic QB's that have all kinds of talent but the reality of it is they don't go to or win SB's. They just don't.

When it gets down to the real deal it's the Brees',Rothlisbergers', Brady's, Mannings', Rodgers' traditional pocket guys with ice in their vains that goes and wins the big show.

I watch ESPN and hear all this about Kaepinick who has yet to play or win a playoff game and yes they brush over the player Rodgers is but his playoff numbers are completely insane.

I hope Arod is doing a slow burn leading up to Saturday and he makes guys like Cosell eat his words. So he holds to ball to long sometimes. He also makes plays only guys like Big Ben can make and last I noticed he wears a lot of glitter on those fingers.

Along with a lot of other QB's that have no idea what running a 4.5 forty feels like.

User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#34 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:24:33 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
48-21 domination of them. One of my fondest playoff memories ever.


I still have that game on my DVR. That's the best I've ever seen the Rodger's led Packers ever play.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#35 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:29:50 PM(UTC)
warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
I understand it's good press and people love hearing about young athletic QB's that have all kinds of talent but the reality of it is they don't go to or win SB's. They just don't.

When it gets down to the real deal it's the Brees',Rothlisbergers', Brady's, Mannings', Rodgers' traditional pocket guys with ice in their vains that goes and wins the big show.

I watch ESPN and hear all this about Kaepinick who has yet to play or win a playoff game and yes they brush over the player Rodgers is but his playoff numbers are completely insane.

I hope Arod is doing a slow burn leading up to Saturday and he makes guys like Cosell eat his words. So he holds to ball to long sometimes. He also makes plays only guys like Big Ben can make and last I noticed he wears a lot of glitter on those fingers.

Along with a lot of other QB's that have no idea what running a 4.5 forty feels like.



Yeah, I don't get the fascination with running quarterbacks either. Not one of them has ever one a Super Bowl or even sniffed one.

The sacks Rodgers takes is out of necessity for the amount of throwing he does. That sack is certainly better than all the picks that Favre threw. I'd rather lose 7 yards than a turnover. We couldn't have asked for a better quarterback than Rodgers, and there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't give their left nut for him.
wpr  
#36 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:25:00 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
That checkdown to Dujaun Harris has been a thing of beauty. I'm not so worried about their Defense with a one armed Justin Smith, cause Aldon Smith is a one trick pony without him. Their defense as a whole is hard hitting, so our boys just have to man up. I really don't think we are as soft as we were in game 1, so anybody thinking San Francisco is going to man handle us again is in for a rude awakening.


absolutely. I was glad to get his nervous bobble out of the way this past week. I don't think he will do that again.

warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
Just some general observations.

When it's 2nd round playoff time teams are usually pretty even. Look to the better QB to be the difference.

The 49'r pass rush is always sited yet the Packers have 9 more sacks and that was with CM3 out a month.

The lack of a balanced offense is often sited as a shortcoming for the Packers yet they are one of only four teams that average over 250 ypg passing and 100 ypg rushing. Two of the other three are NE and Denver. The tops seeds over in the AFC.

Finally, the Packers have now seen what the 49r's will do defensively over and over and you can see how McCarthy has adapted with Harris and the offense. The offense is now comfortable with what they have to do to be more effective when the defense has taken away the big play opportunites.

That and the fact we had four or five players in their first pro game in there defensively at any one time that first go around and what was Bush doing in there anyhow?. They are much more ready for this now.



nice summary. talking heads tend to grind on and regurgitate the same old stories without looking at the facts and see what has changed.
Pack93z  
#37 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:04:21 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I don't get the fascination with running quarterbacks either. Not one of them has ever one a Super Bowl or even sniffed one.


I can think of two:

Fran Tarkenton
Steve Young
Edit... Three.. Randall Cunningham.. he just happened to play with the choking Vikes.


But I agree with the premise.. just pointing out the generalization is invalid.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#38 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:16:04 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I can think of two:

Fran Tarkenton
Steve Young
Edit... Three.. Randall Cunningham.. he just happened to play with the choking Vikes.


But I agree with the premise.. just pointing out the generalization is invalid.


Didn't Steve Young benefit from a loaded defense just as responsible for the championship as he was?

As for Tarkenton and Cunningham, you're kidding right?
Pack93z  
#39 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:22:17 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post

As for Tarkenton and Cunningham, you're kidding right?


They didn't win one... but they definitely were sniffing.

gbguy20  
#40 Posted : Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:05:31 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I still have that game on my DVR. That's the best I've ever seen the Rodger's led Packers ever play.


I will absolutely agree with this. Pretty sure I have it on my hdd as well.
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