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Offline play2win  
#111 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 9:22:29 PM(UTC)
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Scoring Defense
  • 2012 11th
  • 2011 19th
  • 2010 2nd
  • 2009 7th


Defensive Passer Rating
  • 2012 4th
  • 2011 10th
  • 2010 1st
  • 2009 4th


Yes, our defense improved overall statistically over the course of the season. There were some select games though where they looked abysmal. Gave away way too many yds and at times in all-time record breaking numbers. When we were bad, we were really, really bad. We must change this if we are expecting to compete with SF, SEA, NYG, MIN and the like. Personnel, scheme, coaching on both sides of the ball. McCarthy hung his own defense out to dry in nearly every loss by failing to run. The team and its philosophy must change.

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#112 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 9:27:54 PM(UTC)
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Everyone has too much job security in coaching and management of the Green Bay Packers.

We have no owner to get pissed and start firing mother-fu%kers.

It has its pluses and minuses. These bastards are getting too comfy, for my tastes. but as long as our fellow fans keep pumping the money into the organization, change will be very slow.

I want Dom gone now, for example. That may not be wise, it may be, but it isn't happening, imo.


At least under this structure they give me plenty to bitch about, so there is that...

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Offline doddpower  
#113 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 9:35:29 PM(UTC)
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At least under this structure they give me plenty to bitch about, so there is that...

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And I'm sure you struggle to find things to bitch about . . . Lets Box! Lets Box!

Offline rabidgopher04  
#114 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 10:35:31 PM(UTC)
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dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Everyone has too much job security in coaching and management of the Green Bay Packers.

We have no owner to get pissed and start firing mother-fu%kers.

It has its pluses and minuses. These bastards are getting too comfy, for my tastes. but as long as our fellow fans keep pumping the money into the organization, change will be very slow.

I want Dom gone now, for example. That may not be wise, it may be, but it isn't happening, imo.


At least under this structure they give me plenty to bitch about, so there is that...

Love


I keep checking this site and others waiting for the headline that the Packers have fired Dom Capers. I just think it's time to do something a little different to take this defense to the next level.
Offline play2win  
#115 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:45:24 AM(UTC)
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If Capers is fired, I wouldn't expect it to happen for at least another week.
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#116 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:59:05 AM(UTC)
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While I would also like to see more details and suggestions and don't think Butler would necessarily make a good coach, it is pretty obvious no significant adjustments were made during the game. Whether anybody else would have done any better with or without adjustments, is a lot harder to say.


That is really the thing. I can say, yeah he should have made adjustements, I could even say what, bring the LBers up and stop kapernick from running. Sounds good. But then, what would have been the result. Most of his runs were not designed runs, they were scrambles. So we bring the Lbers or Safeties up, and open up the passing game.

really the only thing that could ahve made a difference is pass rush discipline.
Offline Yerko  
#117 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:26:32 AM(UTC)
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When a player like Woodson is openly making comments about not making changes, there is an obvious issue at hand. If Dom Capers is the DC next season, we are going to see the same results again. I won't take away what he did with the defense in 2010...but that is 2010.

Too many times, we are sitting here watching the defense get blown up without any modifications made in-game. As a DC, he should be making changes to prevent the team from doing what they do best.

Green Bay should take a chance and get rid of Dom.
Offline Packers_Finland  
#118 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:40:23 AM(UTC)
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Looking at his track record with the defense, I wouldn't be so quick to throw Capers out the door. But seeing how frustratingly bad his lack of adjustments some times is, and how some specific opponents have been able to walk all over us lately, I, too, think it's time to let him go.

I think James Campen should leave first though. How many early picks have we given him, and our OL still pretty much sucks with the exception of Josh Sitton?
Offline Wade  
#119 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:30:40 PM(UTC)
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I am *not* calling for Dom's head.

*If* he is replaced, however, I would *not* want LeRoy Butler as DC. I don't want a coordinator who has never coached.

On the other hand, I would prefer to have as DC someone who is more of an unknown (to us). I want the *next* great Defense. I don't want someone who is "from the XYZ defensive coaching tree."

But I do want someone with a database of experience _as a coach_ to draw upon. Butler, IMO, does not have that. I want someone who has the experience but has used the experience to "think of something new".
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#120 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:35:14 PM(UTC)
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Packers_Finland said: Go to Quoted Post
Looking at his track record with the defense, I wouldn't be so quick to throw Capers out the door. But seeing how frustratingly bad his lack of adjustments some times is, and how some specific opponents have been able to walk all over us lately, I, too, think it's time to let him go.

I think James Campen should leave first though. How many early picks have we given him, and our OL still pretty much sucks with the exception of Josh Sitton?



I dunno. How do we know that the problem hasn't been Campen but the personnel department (scouts, etc.) who haven't identified the right talent? Maybe with the exception of Sitton, Campen simply has been given average/below-average pro talent to work with? How many failed Packer linemen have gone on to notable improvement post-GB?


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