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Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:43:36 PM(UTC)
o_O goes along with what I said here ...

Rob Reischel said:
Green Bay - Their season had been done approximately 14 hours.

Aaron Rodgers, one of the leaders of the Green Bay Packers, sat alone at his locker, staring aimlessly around the room. Rodgers was asked if he'd talk about the season that just ended.

"Nope," Rodgers said.

Instead, Rodgers began eavesdropping on an interview linebacker Desmond Bishop was conducting.

After each question, Rodgers made a snide remark about the queries loud enough for anyone within earshot to hear.

"I can't believe they'd ask that," Rodgers said.

"Nice question," he said another time.

Finally, doing his best Drew Rosenhaus, Rodgers bellowed, "Next question."

Instead of preparing for the NFC Championship Game, Rodgers was now critiquing reporters.

It's this type of leadership that had some taking shots at the 2011 most valuable player this season.
gbguy20  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:11:01 PM(UTC)
Disappointing.
dfosterf  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:21:38 PM(UTC)
So let's cut him, lol

porky88  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:39:48 PM(UTC)
I have no idea if Aaron Rodgers is a great leader. I'm not in the locker room, but I do know that Green Bay is probably letting Greg Jennings walk this off-season and Jermichael Finley may join him.

Just sayin'
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:49:26 PM(UTC)
I hope Packernation doesn't make some kind of demigod out of Rodgers. He is a human being with a whole gammit of emotions he has to bottle up in a politically correct world. If I were as good as Rodgers and my receivers dropped well placed balls, or Olineman and running backs blew blocking assignments - I'd show a lot more emotion than he ever does. Our GM and coaches have some work to do to shore up our weaknesses - leadership questions need to start there.
PackFanWithTwins  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:03:17 PM(UTC)
Awww, did some poor reporter, and I use that term loosely, get their panties in a bunch. We've all heard these interviews week in and week out, there is no creativity in any of the questions. I can just imagine what it is like for the Players, and espicially for QB's in this league. Answer the same basic questions over and over and over, with the "reporters" just waiting of a non-pc answer so they can create a headline.

Remember it wasn't to long removed of Rodgers small criticism of McCarthy play call on the punt return at Detroit. Rodgers gives an honest answer, and the media tries to blow it into there being a problem between McCarthy and Rodgers when there is nothing.
gbguy20  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:08:02 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I hope Packernation doesn't make some kind of demigod out of Rodgers. He is a human being with a whole gammit of emotions he has to bottle up in a politically correct world. If I were as good as Rodgers and my receivers dropped well placed balls, or Olineman and running backs blew blocking assignments - I'd show a lot more emotion than he ever does. Our GM and coaches have some work to do to shore up our weaknesses - leadership questions need to start there.


I like to think we're all smarter having been through the Brett Favre Era.

PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Answer the same basic questions over and over and over, with the "reporters" just waiting of a non-pc answer so they can create a headline.

Remember it wasn't to long removed of Rodgers small criticism of McCarthy play call on the punt return at Detroit. Rodgers gives an honest answer, and the media tries to blow it into there being a problem between McCarthy and Rodgers when there is nothing.


Good answer, though I don't think it is relevant to this exact article. What the article claims Rodgers did is quite different than giving an honest, non-pc answer to a question.
PackFanWithTwins  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:31:43 PM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Good answer, though I don't think it is relevant to this exact article. What the article claims Rodgers did is quite different than giving an honest, non-pc answer to a question.


I think it is definately relevant. Rodgers had to deal with these same reporters, and today, they are not nearly the reporters of old. Over and over, the same uncreative questions, or jumping on any little thing, so perhaps out of frustration from the loss, he gave the reporters a taste of what they do weekly. It sounded like a way to criticize them, like they criticize others.

This being linked to leadership is asine. The rest of the team is probably looking at themselves thinking, I wish I would have said something like that.
porky88  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:53:00 PM(UTC)
Why did this article or incident (if we're to call it that) take a week in a half to publish?

It took place after the divisional round. That was quite a bit ago in the internet age. Something doesn’t smell right here.

Plus, the article cites Greg Jennings’ sister and Jermichael Finley’s agent. Those are great sources for defending your topic.[sarcasm]

Shannon Sharpe’s quote is a joke. He says what he thinks, but gives no source. You have an opinion, plus two bad sources.

Aaron Rodgers is not above criticism. If what the writer suggests happened, then what Rodgers did was unprofessional. It was also immature.

I’d like to hear Rodgers’ retort, though. I’d also like to know why this took a week in a half to become public.

As I said, something doesn’t smell right here.
Cal2GreenBay  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:40:39 AM(UTC)
He did take a hit.

He has grown a reputation for being Whiney and carrying a "chip"

I am still a fan, but his emotional side is coming through.

Skipping the Probowl was very Tom Brady-esc.

Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:58:31 AM(UTC)
porky88 said: Go to Quoted Post
Why did this article or incident (if we're to call it that) take a week in a half to publish?

It took place after the divisional round. That was quite a bit ago in the internet age. Something doesn’t smell right here.

Plus, the article cites Greg Jennings’ sister and Jermichael Finley’s agent. Those are great sources for defending your topic.[sarcasm]

Shannon Sharpe’s quote is a joke. He says what he thinks, but gives no source. You have an opinion, plus two bad sources.

Aaron Rodgers is not above criticism. If what the writer suggests happened, then what Rodgers did was unprofessional. It was also immature.

I’d like to hear Rodgers’ retort, though. I’d also like to know why this took a week in a half to become public.

As I said, something doesn’t smell right here.


This was 14 hours after the end of the Divisional Round game, unless I misread that. He's not using Sharpe or Finley agent or Jennings sister as individual sources, he's saying where there is smoke, there is fire.


What doesn't smell right is a quarterback thinking he's above others, including his own coach.

As for the timing of it, well, you pump out all of your game related articles first as per that is most current. You go into your reserve bag for material and work your way through.


Cal2GreenBay said: Go to Quoted Post
He did take a hit.

He has grown a reputation for being Whiney and carrying a "chip"

I am still a fan, but his emotional side is coming through.

Skipping the Probowl was very Tom Brady-esc.



Rodgers failed his physical. If word was out he failed his physical, then two weeks later plays in a scrimmage game of touch and gets hurt, everyone would jump his ass for it.

Rodgers has ankle an knee issues, that is why he's not playing in the Pro Bowl.
Porforis  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:41:27 AM(UTC)
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In addition, Rodgers probably didn't win any points from coach Mike McCarthy when he openly campaigned for Evan Dietrich-Smith to be his center and for Randall Cobb to stop playing special teams.


Seems like excellent decisions to me
doddpower  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:39:51 AM(UTC)
Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
Seems like excellent decisions to me


It does seem like most the things he has commented on turned out to be entirely accurate, or the best bet. Perhaps he should not comment as often, but it's not like he's lying.

I'm not concerned about Aaron Rodgers leadership in any way. Even if he was/is arrogant or talks to much, as long as he is producing MVP-like seasons, it's a problem most Packers fans should be glad to have. The Packers simply need to worry about the offensive line, and all around coaching.

gbguy20  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:54:31 AM(UTC)
Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
Seems like excellent decisions to me


Taking Cobb off special teams turned out pretty well for us, right?
Porforis  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:10:01 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Taking Cobb off special teams turned out pretty well for us, right?


The article didn't state that Rodgers lobbied to have an inexperienced rookie take punt returns in Cobb's place. Taking Cobb off special teams was a no-brainer considering how he kept the offense churning during the year and how much we missed him when he got hurt. Putting a mostly untested rookie in his place, especially in a playoff game is a completely different matter altogether.
Packers_Finland  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:10:32 AM(UTC)
Sounds like some real arrogance paired with 'being a dick' -syndrome.

As long as he gets us to the playoffs yearly, I don't care.
gbguy20  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:12:56 AM(UTC)
Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
The article didn't state that Rodgers lobbied to have an inexperienced rookie take punt returns in Cobb's place. Taking Cobb off special teams was a no-brainer considering how he kept the offense churning during the year and how much we missed him when he got hurt. Putting a mostly untested rookie in his place, especially in a playoff game is a completely different matter altogether.


Rodgers didn't say a thing about it until that rookie showed he could have success taking over for cobb. He started saying it the same time everyone else did. He didn't have some secret guy lurking in the background that he wanted to take over for him.
El3ment12  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:34:41 AM(UTC)
People can say whatever they want about Rodgers. I'm glad to have the best qb in the league on our team. We got lucky. Where would we be without Rodgers?
Pack93z  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:26:06 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I hope Packernation doesn't make some kind of demigod out of Rodgers. He is a human being with a whole gammit of emotions he has to bottle up in a politically correct world. If I were as good as Rodgers and my receivers dropped well placed balls, or Olineman and running backs blew blocking assignments - I'd show a lot more emotion than he ever does. Our GM and coaches have some work to do to shore up our weaknesses - leadership questions need to start there.


Agreed.. and this lead to the demise of the last QB.

This season.. Rodgers has openly asked for players to be signed (Chad Clifton).. so did the last MVP QB in the locker room.

This season, Rodgers criticized the play calling openly, much like the former legend QB.

Neither are anything more than human. Both are no more important upon the field than the weakest link on the offense. Both were competitors that want to win at any costs, often willing themselves to the physical extend to do so. They expect nothing less from all aspects of the franchise including the coaches and General Manager.

They are human.. with human emotions.

A QB is not deserving of the praise or blame they garner from the press and fans, they are not deserving of the demi-god status we seem to want to place upon the position blindly because they are a QB.

Rodgers in this instance has proven himself more often as a good person, a great leader and player and very open with his comments and thoughts. Even if he reacted poorly to interview questions, or rightfully objected to lousy questions, it does not define him as a person nor damages his leadership standing.

His actions week in and out do that.. not some reaction to an interview question. If he started degrading a teammate, talking about others financial business, or critical of decision on the playing field in open public.. that I can see damaging his leadership status. Not rating the validity of a press question.

For instance, I loathe the ground the Billy the Cheat walks upon for his actions, but I care less if he blew off CBS's interview. Especially if his emotions had gotten the better of him at the moment.

Selfishly I want to read everything I can about our team, the players thoughts, but in the same light, I don't hold it against them if they choose to restrain from talking to the press.

Aaron Rodgers is a human.. a ultra competitive human at that, I have no issue overlooking comments made based on emotions directly after a game or season as long as they are no degrading the opposition or teammates.

Maybe the press itself is overtly sensitive in this regard. Or maybe they really did ask lousy questions.
Cal2GreenBay  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:40:26 AM(UTC)
El3ment12 said: Go to Quoted Post
People can say whatever they want about Rodgers. I'm glad to have the best qb in the league on our team. We got lucky. Where would we be without Rodgers?


This is a very Favre-esque comment.
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