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Offline blueleopard  
#1 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 12:05:04 PM(UTC)
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http://football.realgm.c...wks_interested_in_revis/

Of course, I don't see it possible since we never let information get leaked, and Ted isn't the kind of GM to aggressive in trade deals for actual players. Not to mention the 49ers are mentioned. Why would they already be talked about when they still have a game left to play?

However, there is a lot of value to be had in Revis if he really were to be given up for a mere 2nd round pick. We're talking the best corner the NFL here.

My View: Not gonna happen. Revis isn't exactly Packers people. Despite his obvious talent, the fact that he's already holdout on his contract twice says a lot about him. Not to mention we don't exactly have HUGE problems with our secondary. On that note, we can't afford him either... unless we got rid of both Woodson and Tramon, which actually isn't outside the realm of possibility.
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#2 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 12:07:47 PM(UTC)
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bullshit leak. we're not interested.
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#3 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 12:09:02 PM(UTC)
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The speculation, and I mean S*P*E*C*U*L*A*T*I*O*N is the utmost extent as we know the Packers don't have leaks in their personnel department, so it can't be anything but speculation of the media's part.

But it doesn't make any sense.. at least to me.

First.. there is the 9 million in a 2013 contract, for a team that has cap questions already, that is a large contract to absorb.

Second, the final three years are voidable if he reports to camp each season.

Third, he is coming off a ACL and may be a unknown for the upcoming season.

And finally, we have Williams, Haywood and House under contract and more than likely will keep Shields in the fold. Do we need to invest in Revis, with his almost yearly contract issues?

And I haven't even approached the return we would have to give to get him...

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Word surfaced earlier in the week that new Jets general manager John Idzik might be open to moving Revis, who can become a free agent after 2013. Several teams, including the Broncos, 49ers, Seahawks and Packers are mentioned as being potentially interested. The report also says the Patriots and Bills would be on that list, except for the fact that the Jets won't trade Revis inside the AFC East.

Source...


On the flip side.. flipping Woodson for Revis, if he can return healthy.. the contracts would be a wash and Revis would give us more coverage flexibility.


Summary, I don't see a fit here in Green Bay.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Pack93z  
#4 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 12:11:07 PM(UTC)
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Two posts same minutes.. Blueleopard had the edge by less than a minute.. ;)

Zero.. please merge..
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 12:21:12 PM(UTC)
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http://www.cbssports.com...for-possible-revis-trade


I think, aside from WR, the next best 'depth' position the Packers have is cornerback. Only way this happens is if Jermichael Finley and Charles Woodson get traded for Darrelle Revis and this isn't Madden.

Not to mention, Packers could have Revis and Deion Sanders in their prime and if the front seven can't consistently make their presence known, it won't matter if it was two Jarrett Bush's out there.


Focus on the front seven on defense and front five on offense, the rest cascades to looking gooder.
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Offline Yerko  
#6 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 12:23:48 PM(UTC)
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I dislike this fake leak...

I do not like Revis as a player. Someone who demands two new contracts in a matter of years can go elsewhere. He is a headache.
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#7 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:07:42 PM(UTC)
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Could we please just look at talent instead of the whole "Packer People" crap? Dumping Woodson for Revis at the cost of a low second round pick is the focus of this whole thing. That is a major age and talent upgrade, of course I am taking into account that Revis makes a full recovery. Think of the ripple effect this makes on our secondary. We haven't that kind of corner tandem since Harris & Wood int their prime. If Revis could return to shutdown form - that takes a lot of pressure off our defense.
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Offline steveishere  
#8 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:33:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Could we please just look at talent instead of the whole "Packer People" crap? Dumping Woodson for Revis at the cost of a low second round pick is the focus of this whole thing. That is a major age and talent upgrade, of course I am taking into account that Revis makes a full recovery. Think of the ripple effect this makes on our secondary. We haven't that kind of corner tandem since Harris & Wood int their prime. If Revis could return to shutdown form - that takes a lot of pressure off our defense.


Think of the ripple effect when he demands QB money
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#9 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 6:18:18 PM(UTC)
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Is it a reaction to Calvin Johnson?

I'm skeptical about the legitimacy of Green Bay's interest, but I do see logic behind the suggestion. It's Green Bay's way of countering Calvin Johnson.
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#10 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 6:59:43 PM(UTC)
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Ain't gonna happen. Uncle teddy won't give up a #2 pick for a 1 year player with injury issues who will make huge demands for money.

If they let Greg walk because he wants too much why would they give up a draft pick to bring someone else in who want top dollar? It is very anti TT.
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#11 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 7:31:20 PM(UTC)
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Revis isn't as good as I thought Nmandi Asomugha was when he was still in Oakland. And I was wrong about Asomugha.

Is Revis a shut down corner? Sure. Is he one of the best around, today? Yes, that, too, probably.

Is he worth the price he'll demand? Absolutely not. With the quality of GB's front seven play, Revis could be a combination of Adderley and Wood (and he's not either) and the Packers would still be unable to stop San Francisco.

Remember where he plays. Remember how much anything coming out of the bog outside of the Great Apple Core needs to be discounted.

No, no, and no again. For a third, sure. For a late second, maybe. For anything more, including any starter other than an OL not named Sitton, it would be as foolish as....well, almost as foolish as drafting RB or QB in the first round.

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Offline RajiRoar  
#12 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 7:57:19 PM(UTC)
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I'd do it.

provided Woodson is out,

maybe toss Tramon in the deal and take it down to a 3rd.


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Offline RajiRoar  
#13 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 8:03:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post

If they let Greg walk because he wants too much why would they give up a draft pick to bring someone else in who want top dollar? It is very anti TT.


Good corners are alot harder to get than good WRs.

Shields is a RFA, Tramon has not been worth his $$$ since 2011.

and Heyward is being payed peanuts for the next 3 years.


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Offline Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 8:06:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
Good corners are alot harder to get than good WRs.



The Packers aren't one good corner from being a Super Bowl contender. They need a better front line on defense, which will make the corners look much better.
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Offline K_Buz  
#15 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:52:21 AM(UTC)
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I read the Jets were seeking a 1st AND 2nd for Revis.

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What's the asking price? The Jets reportedly are seeking an exorbitant package including first- and second-round picks. While that's shooting for the moon on a player coming off anterior cruciate ligament surgery and entering the final year of his contract, there is no shortage of potential trade partners. The New England Patriots, Denver Broncos, San Francisco 49ers, Buffalo Bills, Seattle Seahawks and Green Bay Packers are said to be among the teams "highly interested" in Revis.


http://www.nfl.com/news/...ts-trade-talk-heating-up
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#16 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:05:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: K_Buz Go to Quoted Post
I read the Jets were seeking a 1st AND 2nd for Revis.



http://www.nfl.com/news/...ts-trade-talk-heating-up


yeah I saw that yesterday. Decided not to say anything as I couldn't see them getting that much. It is ridiculous.

when Green Bay traded for THE GREAT ONE, Atlanta only got a first for HIM.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#17 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:45:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
yeah I saw that yesterday. Decided not to say anything as I couldn't see them getting that much. It is ridiculous.

when Green Bay traded for THE GREAT ONE, Atlanta only got a first for HIM.


lol there is a large difference there ... Brett Favre was a 3rd string quarterback who was partying it up hardcore. Darrelle Revis is considered one of the best cover corners in the NFL. Plus, most thought the Packers were foolish for sending a 1st round pick, even though they had two that year.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:59:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
Good corners are alot harder to get than good WRs.

Shields is a RFA, Tramon has not been worth his $$$ since 2011.

and Heyward is being payed peanuts for the next 3 years.


No single player (non QB anyways) is worth the amount of money some stupid franchise is going to give Revis. I don't see him agreeing to anything less than the 60m guaranteed that Mario Williams got in FA this year. I don't care if he's the best corner the NFL has ever seen. Teams don't do anything but screw themselves over with these massive FA contracts they do.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:02:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
Is it a reaction to Calvin Johnson?

I'm skeptical about the legitimacy of Green Bay's interest, but I do see logic behind the suggestion. It's Green Bay's way of countering Calvin Johnson.


The Packers haven't had a problem beating the Lions with Calvin Johnson so I don't see how they would need to counter him. It's not like when the Vikings drafted Randy Moss and then they lit up the Packers on national television. The Packers have handled the Lions pretty well with CJ on their team.

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#20 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:51:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
Ain't gonna happen. Uncle teddy won't give up a #2 pick for a 1 year player with injury issues who will make huge demands for money.

If they let Greg walk because he wants too much why would they give up a draft pick to bring someone else in who want top dollar? It is very anti TT.


Not only won't Ted do that, no NFL GM would do that. That's stupid. Nobody is going to trade for a player without agreeing to terms on a new deal first.

Also, Woodson's full contract was potentially worth $52 million. At the time, he was coming off multiple injuries and was apparently a bad character guy in the locker room.
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#21 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:05:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 Go to Quoted Post
The Packers haven't had a problem beating the Lions with Calvin Johnson so I don't see how they would need to counter him. It's not like when the Vikings drafted Randy Moss and then they lit up the Packers on national television. The Packers have handled the Lions pretty well with CJ on their team.

Calvin Johnson is likely in the division for the next 10 years. He and Aaron Rodgers are the only two current players capable of changing the landscape of the division for the remainder of the decade. I'd include Adrian Peterson, but running backs don't have long careers.

Regardless, overlooking Detroit would be a mistake. Johnson’s had success against the Packers. Imagine the stakes if the Lions actually improve in other areas, which they aren’t far from doing. They’re a young team, coming off postseason success two years ago, and have a very gifted quarterback. Frankly, I fear them more than Minnesota and Chicago.

The smart teams stay ahead of their competitors by accurately anticipating the future. I don’t think anyone inside 1265 is taking Detroit lightly. If the interest in Revis is true, then I think Johnson’s presence within the division is one of many variables leading to that interest.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:55:21 AM(UTC)
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Detroit Lions haven't had post season success since the early 90's lol other than that, you nailed it.
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#23 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:03:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Detroit Lions haven't had post season success since the early 90's lol other than that, you nailed it.

Right though a team’s distant past has nothing to do with its present. Just look at the transformation New Orleans has gone through or the fall of Oakland.
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#24 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:35:04 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
Calvin Johnson is likely in the division for the next 10 years. He and Aaron Rodgers are the only two current players capable of changing the landscape of the division for the remainder of the decade. I'd include Adrian Peterson, but running backs don't have long careers.

Regardless, overlooking Detroit would be a mistake. Johnson’s had success against the Packers. Imagine the stakes if the Lions actually improve in other areas, which they aren’t far from doing. They’re a young team, coming off postseason success two years ago, and have a very gifted quarterback. Frankly, I fear them more than Minnesota and Chicago.

The smart teams stay ahead of their competitors by accurately anticipating the future. I don’t think anyone inside 1265 is taking Detroit lightly. If the interest in Revis is true, then I think Johnson’s presence within the division is one of many variables leading to that interest.



Or maybe he is worried Jennings will go to a division team? CJ and Jennings would have to be considered one of the best tandems in the league (before you say no think about where Jennings grew up and the hometown discount or even cj and stafford reworking their contracts for it.)

Chicago with Marshall and Jennings or even Harvin and Jennings would be scary. Ok not so much the Vikes unless they get a qb aka Vick would become very scary.

So there should be consideration but not at that price unless we sent them a player with a huge contract.

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#25 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:08:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
So there should be consideration but not at that price unless we sent them a player with a huge contract

Adding Revis would make Tramon Williams expendable. I’m not sure if the Jets would accept Williams in the package, but all the Packers have to do is outbid the other teams, if the Jets intend on trading him. Frankly, a first rounder plus Williams isn’t a terrible deal. This is not a great draft class, so if the Packers were going to trade away picks, this would be the year to consider it.
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