Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
3 Pages<123>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Wade  
#11 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 7:12:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 8/1/2009(UTC)
Location: nowhere of importance
Applause Given: 890
Applause Received: 915
If Ball is BPA for Packers at their draft position, they should trade down.

Using your top draft choice to get a RB and nothing else makes zero sense to me.

If Banks is seriously proposing this, then he knows nothing of substance about the Packers.

RB should be so far down the list of priorities, and there are so many needs (OL OL OL DL DL LB LB) yet filled, that if when GB is on the clock and doesn't have enough draft value for the position except for Ball, they should be trading down and getting extra picks.

IMO.

I wouldn't use that pick for Ball if Ball were the second coming of both Jim Brown and Barry Sanders.

Oh, okay, maybe then.

But anything less and its not just refusing to pick for need. Using a first on a RB is against the team's best interest. The only thing dumber would be to use it to draft Rodgers' backup.
Offline play2win  
#12 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 11:22:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
We could draft two Adrian Petersons and they wouldn't get more than a combined 1300 yards a season behind this line.


I think this is a gigantic misconception. They wouldn't get more than a combined 1300 yards a season behind this play caller...

To me, our greatest issue with seeming one dimensional is that we are. We don't go predominantly to the run in games. We are not a well balanced offense because we don't run enough - consistently. Our attempts have gone up, but they just aren't enough in my opinion. I'd rather our philosophy changed, from head coach Mike McCarthy, to be a run oriented team. Imagine how well that would open up huge pass plays... and how well that would work to keep our offense on the field, extending drives and chewing up clock, while keeping our defense off the field.

I would take Ball if this staff were to be more committed to running the football. I think our line will be fine. Maybe add an upgrade at offensive line coach. Not going to happen though. I cannot see McCarthy changing... if he does, I will be shocked. And, it would be so easy, if he could just get around himself.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
nerdmann on 2/2/2013(UTC)
Offline play2win  
#13 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 11:25:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
If Ball is BPA for Packers at their draft position, they should trade down.

Using your top draft choice to get a RB and nothing else makes zero sense to me.

If Banks is seriously proposing this, then he knows nothing of substance about the Packers.

RB should be so far down the list of priorities, and there are so many needs (OL OL OL DL DL LB LB) yet filled, that if when GB is on the clock and doesn't have enough draft value for the position except for Ball, they should be trading down and getting extra picks.

IMO.

I wouldn't use that pick for Ball if Ball were the second coming of both Jim Brown and Barry Sanders.

Oh, okay, maybe then.

But anything less and its not just refusing to pick for need. Using a first on a RB is against the team's best interest. The only thing dumber would be to use it to draft Rodgers' backup.


I agree. Banks doesn't know shit about GB. I would much rather have a top flight DE with a R1 pick.
Offline play2win  
#14 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 11:36:00 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
Yerko said: Go to Quoted Post
Is center, Barrett Jones not being considered a 1st round draft pick? I see two other Alabama linemen in there...

With that said, this teams offense is only going to have more success by starting up front. I don't think Montee would be a good choice for the 1st round. Get a blue chip lineman...see where and if Montee falls in the 2nd (there are other good names out there as well) and trade up if you have to.

Center/LT
SS

are the two priorities I think...I'm sure I am wrong though.


Yerko, I could go along with that. C and LT are calling out for upgrades. I DO think EDS will be a fine C though, if given the chance.

The think that gets me is, looking ahead at 2013, we -might- be fine on the OL with Bulaga returning, EDS at C, and maybe a good competition between Newhouse and Datko for LT. Personally, I think our OL problems have more to do with a deficiency in coaching and playcalling.

I believe our greatest need is at DE, where we have no one of substance. Add to that, the entire DL. We need help all along the thing.

Montee Ball? Hell, I might even like DuJuan Harris better. If they decide to draft Ball, they better be bringing a serious commitment to the run along with it.

How about this, can we just draft a mean streak? I'd go for that alone.
Offline Pack93z  
#15 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 11:46:56 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin
Applause Given: 436
Applause Received: 1,227
As much as I like Montee Ball, I don't think he sniffs at the 1st round.. and possibly slides out of the second round.

I would love to obtain Ball in the draft, the WISC homer in me, but even I think that is a reach. 2nd or later.. I would do a back flip.
Offline wpr  
#16 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 12:28:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,790
Applause Received: 1,923
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
As much as I like Montee Ball, I don't think he sniffs at the 1st round.. and possibly slides out of the second round.

I would love to obtain Ball in the draft, the WISC homer in me, but even I think that is a reach. 2nd or later.. I would do a back flip.


trade up and get him in the middle of the third.
Offline TheKanataThrilla  
#17 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 12:54:27 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Canada
Joined: 9/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 473
Applause Received: 500
I remember when many were wanting us to draft Gabe Carimi because he played for the Badgers. He is getting close to looking like a bust. Just saying some of you guys tend to over-value the local product. I'm not saying to avoid the home team, but please evaluate with head and not heart. I am not saying Ball will be a bust, but the guy has a pretty good line to run behind so buyer beware.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
DakotaT on 1/28/2013(UTC)
Offline Mortfini  
#18 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 2:15:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/20/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 1
According to walterfootball.com the packers are in love with Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M

Projected 3rd

The Packers need better support for Aaron Rodgers by finding an improved running game. I could see Ted Thompson targeting a running back on the second day. Sources told WalterFootball.com that Green Bay loves Michael and that Thompson was practically stalking him at the East-West Shrine.

Michael had a phenomenal week of practice and probably helped himself more than any other prospect at the East-West Shrine. The 5-foot-11, 215-pound Michael showed off an impressive skill set and has starting potential for the NFL. He ran with quickness, power, balance, vision and cutting ability.

The senior totaled 417 yards on 88 carries (4.7 average) and 12 touchdowns in 2012. Most of the Aggies' rushing attempts went to freshman signal-caller Johnny Manziel (201-1,410).

Injuries kept Michael from playing a full season in 2011 and 2010. In 2011, before going down with a knee injury, he outshined teammate Cyrus Gray. Michael led Texas A&M in rushing prior to the injury. He averaged six yards per carry with 899 yards and eight touchdowns. Michael was knocked out during the 2010 season, too, breaking his tibia in the eighth game. He had 631 yards rushing with four touchdowns and a five yard per carry average. Michael had 844 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns as freshman, averaging 5.1 yards per carry

Being from the uk I know very little about collage ball we only see 1 or 2 collage games a week and usually for some reason it's been USC but he looks like 1st round talent that's been knocked back cos of injurys
Offline wpr  
#19 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 2:38:02 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,790
Applause Received: 1,923
Mortfini said: Go to Quoted Post
According to walterfootball.com the packers are in love with Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M

Projected 3rd

The Packers need better support for Aaron Rodgers by finding an improved running game. I could see Ted Thompson targeting a running back on the second day. Sources told WalterFootball.com that Green Bay loves Michael and that Thompson was practically stalking him at the East-West Shrine.

Michael had a phenomenal week of practice and probably helped himself more than any other prospect at the East-West Shrine. The 5-foot-11, 215-pound Michael showed off an impressive skill set and has starting potential for the NFL. He ran with quickness, power, balance, vision and cutting ability.

The senior totaled 417 yards on 88 carries (4.7 average) and 12 touchdowns in 2012. Most of the Aggies' rushing attempts went to freshman signal-caller Johnny Manziel (201-1,410).

Injuries kept Michael from playing a full season in 2011 and 2010. In 2011, before going down with a knee injury, he outshined teammate Cyrus Gray. Michael led Texas A&M in rushing prior to the injury. He averaged six yards per carry with 899 yards and eight touchdowns. Michael was knocked out during the 2010 season, too, breaking his tibia in the eighth game. He had 631 yards rushing with four touchdowns and a five yard per carry average. Michael had 844 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns as freshman, averaging 5.1 yards per carry

Being from the uk I know very little about collage ball we only see 1 or 2 collage games a week and usually for some reason it's been USC but he looks like 1st round talent that's been knocked back cos of injurys


I would hope Ted targets someone who rushed for more than 417 yards in the season.

I am not saying it has to be Ball (walter has him somewhere between the 2nd and 4th rounds.) but he looks more like a rb who can carry the load.

walter said:
had 1,923 yards, averaging 6.3 yards per carry, and 33 touchdowns in 2011. Ball also caught 24 passes for 306 yards and six scores.


and
walter said:

He averaged 5.2 yards per carry this year on his way to 1,830 yards and 22 touchdowns.
Offline Yerko  
#20 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 2:46:34 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 10/15/2008(UTC)
Location: Chicago, IL
Applause Given: 212
Applause Received: 381
Mortfini said: Go to Quoted Post
According to walterfootball.com the packers are in love with Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M

Projected 3rd

The Packers need better support for Aaron Rodgers by finding an improved running game. I could see Ted Thompson targeting a running back on the second day. Sources told WalterFootball.com that Green Bay loves Michael and that Thompson was practically stalking him at the East-West Shrine.

Michael had a phenomenal week of practice and probably helped himself more than any other prospect at the East-West Shrine. The 5-foot-11, 215-pound Michael showed off an impressive skill set and has starting potential for the NFL. He ran with quickness, power, balance, vision and cutting ability.

The senior totaled 417 yards on 88 carries (4.7 average) and 12 touchdowns in 2012. Most of the Aggies' rushing attempts went to freshman signal-caller Johnny Manziel (201-1,410).

Injuries kept Michael from playing a full season in 2011 and 2010. In 2011, before going down with a knee injury, he outshined teammate Cyrus Gray. Michael led Texas A&M in rushing prior to the injury. He averaged six yards per carry with 899 yards and eight touchdowns. Michael was knocked out during the 2010 season, too, breaking his tibia in the eighth game. He had 631 yards rushing with four touchdowns and a five yard per carry average. Michael had 844 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns as freshman, averaging 5.1 yards per carry

Being from the uk I know very little about collage ball we only see 1 or 2 collage games a week and usually for some reason it's been USC but he looks like 1st round talent that's been knocked back cos of injurys


Hmm, so basically all this says is Ted hasn't learned his lesson in drafting an injury prone runningback. I hope he is wrong but he used the word "stalk"....
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages<123>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (15h) : lol
TheKanataThrilla (19h) : That's a better description Zero thanks.
Zero2Cool (22h) : I wasn't cheering for Cowboys. I was just hoping Vikings lose lol
Smokey (2-Dec) : NFLshop.com
TheKanataThrilla (2-Dec) : Seems best for our divisional prospects
hardrocker950 (2-Dec) : then don't
TheKanataThrilla (2-Dec) : It feels awful to cheer for the Cowboys.
Zero2Cool (30-Nov) : You know you don't have a Google sign in, so ... ahh ... don't click it :-) (having fun with ya)
Laser Gunns (30-Nov) : I don't mean to make the dupe, it happens when I try to sign in using the google account link thing.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Erik Walden has as many sacks as Nick Perry.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Most players fly "home" for offseason.
Porforis (29-Nov) : Or they just don't want to beat their bodies to hell to get a bunch of money and not having stuff around to enjoy with said money
Cheesey (29-Nov) : Well, i guess it just shows who thinks their football job is less important then going out to party.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Green Bay is a smaller town, and it's cold as crap here.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : What I've heard and read, more likely true than we care to admit.
hardrocker950 (29-Nov) : If that is true... they don't know what is good for them hehe
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : That was from Brady Poppinga.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Ted has always been aggressive & proactive in FA.It's just that a lot of big time free agents have taken less to play in bigger cities.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Gunnar, QUIT creating that duplicate account! lol
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Reggie ragland was on IR early too.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Seems anyone and everyone related to Packers is hurt lol
wpr (29-Nov) : Boy it's a good thing GB didn't sign Trevthan. Uncle Teddy is a genius. 8-l
The_Green_Ninja (29-Nov) : Silent from Nerdmann tonight :)
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Davante Adams turns 6 targets into 5-113-2 in MNF win
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : Yeehaw
Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : Danny Trevthan to IR with ruptured patellar tendon in right knee. Going on IR.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : It's time for someone to step up at corner, Whitt says. He refuses to use injuries as an excuse, no matter how many ways I ask.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : Joe Whitt on Randall's return: "That's what we get paid for. Nobody really cares about the rust." Only thing that matters is performance.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : LB coach Winston Moss says rust affected Clay Matthews: "We're looking forward to him getting back to his old play-making self."
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : CB coach Joe Whitt on Damarious Randall: Nobody cares about rust. The only thing that matters is performance.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : Packers are 4.6 yards per rush. Only 4 teams with better average rushing per carry.
hardrocker950 (25-Nov) : But Ted will probably blow the pick on another bust
dyeah_gb (25-Nov) : I guess we can be thankful for a high draft pick
dyeah_gb (25-Nov) : happy thanksgiving everyone.
Zero2Cool (23-Nov) : Today's Birthdays: polargrizz (62)
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
4m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

14m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Dec / Around The NFL / Smokey

2-Dec / Packers Draft Threads / Smokey

2-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

1-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

30-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

30-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

30-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn


Packers Headlines