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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:21:38 PM(UTC)
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Two players, no cap considerations, fantasy selections.


Player 1: The draft

We'll assume that regardless of the position, the Packers get a blue chipper with their 26th overall selection in the 2013 draft. Essentially, you're choosing the position the Packers need the most that will make them Super Bowl contenders.



Player 2: Choose from the list of free agents as well.
http://www.rotoworld.com...ree-agent-master-list-13



I'll go with drafting a Safety in the first round because I think a blue chip Safety would make the Packers defense damn near elite with my free agent pickup Osi Umenyiora.


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Offline DakotaT  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:33:27 PM(UTC)
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I'd sign either Paul Kruger OLB Ravens or Jake Long LT Dolphins. If it is Long, you'd have to protect yourself because of the triceps injury.

I'd draft a 350 lb nose tackle.
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Offline all_about_da_packers  
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:54:48 PM(UTC)
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Player 1: The draft.

I'd look to get a little more athletic on Defense early on. I really don't have a problem trying to get 2 defensive players in the first 3 rounds. (I assume Finley will be back, but if he isn't our needs will definitely greater on offense)

I'd prefer to add an athletic LB (with the physical attributes of someone like Ezekiel Ansah) who could further complement Clay. Another playmaker may really be the difference maker in making are D amongst the best in the league, I feel.

I'd also like to add another D-linemen, someone in the physical mold of Johnny Jolly / Justin Harrell. Putting aside Harrell's injuries, he had the physical attributes you want on a 3-4 DE: big, long arms, strong, with some ability to get push. A four man rotation on the D-line will help keep all the players fresh and most importantly keep our LBs free to make plays, and hopefully Mike Daniels + Mike Neal are kept in specialist pass-rusher roles to provide some support there.

The only way I'd look to draft a safety early is if there is one that can make a clear cut immediate impact like Harrison Smith did with the Vikings last year. I feel between MD Jennings / Jerron McMillan / Charles Woodson we can squeeze out adequate performance of the S position opposite Burnett.

Player 2: Free Agency.

I would not mind filling one of the positions above - DE/OLB/S - through free agency if we can get the right player on a relatively good contract. First names coming to my mind: Richard Seymour or Laron Landry. The issue with Landry is that I'm not sure you can/should sign him without releasing Woodson. I'm not entirely convinced the Packers are looking to release Woodson.

Here is another scenario: are the Eagles looking to move on from Nnamdi Asomugha by possible releasing him? If so, I wonder if you bring on Nnamdi on a 2 year contract and look to play him at safety. His value will be low, and perhaps he is motivated enough to prove he still has it. If you think he can switch seamlessly to S and still has something left in the tank, I'd think about adding him.


Clearly, I'm of the thought that our defence should be a priority. I think that, outside of LT, there is no pressing need on offense. Maybe at C, but I think EDS showed he is capable enough to at least be an effective enough stop-gap. If you get a chance to draft a LT that you are sure will be able to develop and be a bookend blind side protector for Rodgers, then you jump at that because this team will only go as far as Rodgers' shoulders can carry it. But if you can upgrade the D a moderate amount, I think you've got the makings of a very good Superbowl Contender with the other pieces on offense.
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Offline play2win  
#4 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 11:58:51 AM(UTC)
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Draft: 6-8 277 DE Margus Hunt SMU

FA: 6-6" 325 NT Alan Branch SEA

That would be my wish...
Offline DarkaneRules  
#5 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 12:33:15 PM(UTC)
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I am thinking NT and LT are HUGE for us.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 12:35:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
I am thinking NT and LT are HUGE for us.


So, draft NT and what LT in free agency do you want signed? Remember, no salary cap restrictions, this is fantasy baby, fantasy!!
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#7 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 1:58:11 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool, great thread.

I was thinking DL, size and power. Just adding those two players would be a giant help. I do like your Osi signing in FA and drafting a S in R1. We do need an impact player at S, without question, and as you say, the effect on the rest of the team and our success could be significant.
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#8 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 2:09:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
So, draft NT and what LT in free agency do you want signed? Remember, no salary cap restrictions, this is fantasy baby, fantasy!!


Fantasy? The Incredible Hulk and The Flash.

Don't know enough about college football to say WHO we should draft, but DE and LT are our big needs. I'd be hesitant to wait until the third or fourth round to pick up a LT. Osi Umenyiora maybe for DE.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 2:20:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
Fantasy? The Incredible Hulk and The Flash.

Don't know enough about college football to say WHO we should draft, but DE and LT are our big needs. I'd be hesitant to wait until the third or fourth round to pick up a LT. Osi Umenyiora maybe for DE.


As mentioned, you do not pick a college player, you pick the position to of which regardless of the selection will be a blue chip player. :)

Free Agent list, that however you'll have to know a player.
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#10 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 2:37:47 PM(UTC)
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Offline Pack93z  
#11 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 2:50:23 PM(UTC)
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Draft: C

I think this has been the missing ingredient to resolving most of our offensive line problems, allowing us to run effectively when we need it and provides a sense of balance to our offense.


FA: Cliff Avril.

Move him around the defense as a pass rusher only.. let him get after it.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#12 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 4:15:32 PM(UTC)
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Draft a LT


FA the best one would be Ed Reed, granted it would be for maybe 2 years but the skills he could teach the other safetys and also the other DB's would be huge. Two big things would be he would teach them to tackle and actually bring them to the ground and the other and main one to me would be the leadership. In other words he would bring an attitude to this weak defense.
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#13 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 4:57:55 PM(UTC)
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Player 1: Barrett Jones

He was the best draft eligible player I watched all year. He's vastly underrated. His football I.Q. is elite, he can get to the next level, and he's physical as hell.

Player 2: Ryan Clady

An all-pro left tackle available in free agency? Of course, Denver won't let him leave town, but since we're dreaming, I'll take an offensive line consisting of Clady/Lang/Jones/Sitton/Bulaga.

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 5:01:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
Player 1: Barrett Jones

He was the best player I watched all year. He's vastly underrated. His football I.Q. is elite, he can get to the next level, and he's physical as hell.

Player 2: Ryan Clady

An all-pro left tackle available in free agency? Of course, Denver won't let him leave town, but since we're dreaming, I'll take an offensive line consisting of Clady/Lang/Jones/Sitton/Bulaga.


The Eagles let go of an All Pro defensive end in the early 90's ...
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#15 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 8:24:22 PM(UTC)
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#16 Posted : Friday, February 1, 2013 10:08:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
The Eagles let go of an All Pro defensive end in the early 90's ...

Reggie White was exempt from the franchise tag, though.

Nevertheless, I get goosebumps thinking about that projected offensive line.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, February 2, 2013 10:27:10 AM(UTC)
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We need serious help on the O-line.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, February 2, 2013 6:51:58 PM(UTC)
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Would anyone else like to see a duo of Finley and Jared Cook?
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#19 Posted : Saturday, February 2, 2013 8:00:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 Go to Quoted Post
Would anyone else like to see a duo of Finley and Jared Cook?


i would...


I know Mike McCarthy cannot hear me, but I am praying that we attempt to run 2-TE sets like NE does.. (from the couch) it looks like it could sole alot of our problems maintaining a balance.

+more run-friendly sets
+less deep routes (Aaron Rodgers Mike McCarthy !!)
+more protection options

-Kuhn goes extinct


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#20 Posted : Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:56:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
i would...


I know Mike McCarthy cannot hear me, but I am praying that we attempt to run 2-TE sets like NE does.. (from the couch) it looks like it could sole alot of our problems maintaining a balance.

+more run-friendly sets
+less deep routes (Aaron Rodgers Mike McCarthy !!)
+more protection options

-Kuhn goes extinct


Hopefully Quarless comes back next year.
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#21 Posted : Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:12:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 Go to Quoted Post
Would anyone else like to see a duo of Finley and Jared Cook?


I like the idea as I think this is a perfect way to control the clock and really unbalance the opposing defence. Is Jordy fast enough to provide the quick deep threat though is my only question? NE is blessed that they have a WR to provide that deep threat that opens the middle for the two TE set.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, February 3, 2013 4:24:04 PM(UTC)
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Jared Cook > Finley, IMO. Although, neither can block very well. It would definitely be fun to watch though.
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#23 Posted : Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:07:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
NE is blessed that they have a WR to provide that deep threat that opens the middle for the two TE set.


NE is blessed with having an offensive line that gets away with murder, and also a quarterback who when breathed on with enough verosity gets a roughing the passer call.

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#24 Posted : Monday, February 4, 2013 8:47:04 AM(UTC)
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Ed Reed?
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#25 Posted : Monday, February 4, 2013 9:00:33 AM(UTC)
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Ed Reed?


I already said that for the purpose of leadership :)

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