Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
4 Pages<1234>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline nerdmann  
#11 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 7:44:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6,406
Applause Received: 1,419
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
He should be fired. He is not doing the proper blend of repairing holes with veteran talent coupled with wise draft choices.


His drafting is fine. It is his apparent stubborness to stick to that as basically his only choice that makes me want him gone.

He is LATE in his choices if that is his philosophy. If he is all about the draft, he is LATE MOST OF THE TIME.

Capers can hit the fucking trail also.

We have been squandering Rodgers talent and low cap number/salary and it has been pissing me off. Younger viewers are used to awesome QB talent. Me, I will always remain concerned, and imo, rightfully so. It is a PARTY to build a team around a QB vs. building a QB around a team. Ted is FAILING US, imo

...and I like Ted. [palm]


He signs FAs, it's that that they are his own FAs.

As for squandering Aaron's talent, Aaron, like his predecessor, can take responsibility for much of that.
Offline DakotaT  
#12 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 7:47:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1,049
Applause Received: 2,116
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
He should be fired. He is not doing the proper blend of repairing holes with veteran talent coupled with wise draft choices.


His drafting is fine. It is his apparent stubborness to stick to that as basically his only choice that makes me want him gone.

He is LATE in his choices if that is his philosophy. If he is all about the draft, he is LATE MOST OF THE TIME.

Capers can hit the fucking trail also.

We have been squandering Rodgers talent and low cap number/salary and it has been pissing me off. Younger viewers are used to awesome QB talent. Me, I will always remain concerned, and imo, rightfully so. It is a PARTY to build a team around a QB vs. building a QB around a team. Ted is FAILING US, imo

...and I like Ted. [palm]


Ted has definitely screwed the pooch because there should be more hardware in the trophy case. But Ted isn't making this team soft, that blame lies on our Pillsbury doughboy coach. I don't care what kind of offensive genius he is, this team gets beat at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and that shit can't happen. There has been more than enough talent to get it done, it just hasn't happened.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
nerdmann on 2/11/2013(UTC)
Offline dfosterf  
#13 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 7:50:52 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 228
Applause Received: 478
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
He signs FAs, it's that that they are his own FAs.

As for squandering Aaron's talent, Aaron, like his predecessor, can take responsibility for much of that.


Nonsense- Give Aaron Rodgers a superior line and N O ONE could defend it. IT ISN'T THAT HARD if you dip into free agency wisely.



Aaron Rodgers has been playing behind SHIT. We can't even run the friggin' ball with an MVP QB.

Any IDIOT can see that Rodgers is going to cost us a FORTUNE, the most ever, right? Yes? which means MANY players will be lost on both offense and defense...
Offline dfosterf  
#14 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 8:21:13 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 228
Applause Received: 478
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Ted has definitely screwed the pooch because there should be more hardware in the trophy case. But Ted isn't making this team soft, that blame lies on our Pillsbury doughboy coach. I don't care what kind of offensive genius he is, this team gets beat at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and that shit can't happen. There has been more than enough talent to get it done, it just hasn't happened.


I don't like getting beat on the line of scrimmage. It defines my team. I will not even admit we ARE getting beat on the line of scrimmage, but IF WE ARE, I want HEADS. I want the plumber/toilet guy, I want Murphy, Thompson, the toll-taker, EVERYONE. W H Y would the Green Bay Packers allow themselves to get beat at the line of scrimmage when they have had a cheap QB that is awesome, for example?


Why?


Ted Thompson runs this thing, last time I checked.

Offline nerdmann  
#15 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 8:27:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6,406
Applause Received: 1,419
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Nonsense- Give Aaron Rodgers a superior line and N O ONE could defend it. IT ISN'T THAT HARD if you dip into free agency wisely.



Aaron Rodgers has been playing behind SHIT. We can't even run the friggin' ball with an MVP QB.

Any IDIOT can see that Rodgers is going to cost us a FORTUNE, the most ever, right? Yes? which means MANY players will be lost on both offense and defense...


If we lose players, we need players to replace them.

Drafting guys who can play is much cheaper than bidding for them.

That said, maybe if Aaron didn't have 8 seconds to hold onto the ball waiting for someone to come open deep, he'd run a more efficient offense. Not that the line is great, but it's not the reason we were eliminated from the playoffs.
Offline dfosterf  
#16 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 8:35:44 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 228
Applause Received: 478
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
If we lose players, we need players to replace them.

Drafting guys who can play is much cheaper than bidding for them.

That said, maybe if Aaron didn't have 8 seconds to hold onto the ball waiting for someone to come open deep, he'd run a more efficient offense. Not that the line is great, but it's not the reason we were eliminated from the playoffs.


This argument is about Ted. What if we had a great running threat? What if we had a book-end to Clay? I don't think at least trying to achieve those objectives was out of line for last year.

Now we are going to lose more players, going to wait more for Ted to replace them, plus we gotta do the Aaron deal this year, which I HOPE TO CHRIST Ted was thinking about last year, though we have no indications he was- and wonder why we cannot relive the 2010 glory, and frankly, the recipe to do so doesn't even look hard.

He is not forward thinking, by my evaluation of his strategies. I don't care what all the evaluators say. I know this team, as well as a fan can. He's fucking up, imo
Offline nerdmann  
#17 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2013 9:39:44 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6,406
Applause Received: 1,419
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
This argument is about Ted. What if we had a great running threat? What if we had a book-end to Clay? I don't think at least trying to achieve those objectives was out of line for last year.

Now we are going to lose more players, going to wait more for Ted to replace them, plus we gotta do the Aaron deal this year, which I HOPE TO CHRIST Ted was thinking about last year, though we have no indications he was- and wonder why we cannot relive the 2010 glory, and frankly, the recipe to do so doesn't even look hard.

He is not forward thinking, by my evaluation of his strategies. I don't care what all the evaluators say. I know this team, as well as a fan can. He's fucking up, imo


Ted's the strength of the team, imo.

We've just had injuries at these positions. Sherrod, Nick Perry, Jerel Worthy. Dez Bishop, DJ Smith, Woody. Nick Collins.

Look at all the gems Ted has uncovered. Sam Shields. Dez Moses. DuJuan Harris. I'd take those guys over high priced free agents any day.
Offline steveishere  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:17:59 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Gold: 2013

Joined: 7/28/2012(UTC)
Applause Given: 58
Applause Received: 1,761
Signing the high priced free agents is something that loser teams do all the time. Look at the successful teams like the Giants, Ravens, Patriots, Steelers. Those teams rarely ever sign high $$ FA contracts.
Offline play2win  
#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:34:27 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
As unhappy as I've been with our line play, both on offense and defense, I do think injury has been a major problem.

However, Ted Thompson has an obligation to give his coaches the players necessary to succeed. Losing Nick Perry, and a real pass rush opposite Matthews hurt us badly last season, maybe more than any other injury.

That aside, our DL lacked depth in quality talent. Mike Neal? Yeah, he made some plays, but not enough. CJ Wilson? Same. Jerel Worthy? A rookie who it was hoped wouldn't be a project, but he was. Mike Daniels? Another rookie, on the small side. Again, made some plays but not enough.

I thought our biggest problems were on defense, in our front 7 and S opposite Burnett.

Our problems on the OL appear to be more in coaching and play calling.

If I were Ted, I would look to - upgrade - every front 7 position outside of Matthews, and I would upgrade S. Keep Raji and Pickett, but add more talent at their positions to create a legit rotation.

The Finley experiment clearly is not working at that price. We could use a C and a LT, but we might be OK with what we have. To me, our needs on D are really calling out for help, way more than on O, where there seems to me to be more of a need for a change in coaching philosophy.

Players who cost us a ton and are either past their prime, or not living up to expectations:
Finley. Hawk. Woodson. Tramon Williams. Ted should look very closely at upgrading those as well. He's got his work cut out for him.
Offline play2win  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:05:48 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
doddpower said: Go to Quoted Post
I just hope to see top talent added to the team, almost regardless of position. The Packers have a lot of talent, but they need more. This a great draft to go almost strictly best pick available, within certain pre-defined criteria, of course. There is literally not a single position other than QB in which the Packers couldn't use a top talent at. Let the draft fall as it may, and draft accordingly. Hopefully this will work in Teds Favor.


I would add that I'm with you in this line of thinking, to a point. There are positions where we look to be solid outside of QB. LG, RG, WR, CB. Clay Matthews' position.

Would I like to see us add a punishing RB? Absolutely. A TE or two who can fit well in our system? Absolutely. A mauler of a LT and/or C? You bet. Another NT? Bring it!

We have a ton of positions that require upgrades on both sides of the ball. All I know, is Ted can't rely simply on the draft alone to address all of our needs. He must add quality FAs as well.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
4 Pages<1234>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2m) : @criscarter80 :Every fairy tale comes to an end, and this is where the magic carpet ride stops in the ATL.
Zero2Cool (15m) : McCarthy: "JC Tretter actually had surgery Tuesday. He won't be available this week"
Zero2Cool (1h) : Crosby is fine now. Full Participant in practice Thursday
Porforis (1h) : What I'm more worried about at this point is WR injuries and Crosby being sick. Who'd be the backup if Crosby can't go?
Zero2Cool (1h) : We do have hope. Our secondary has improved. Also, he had to throw 80% to get 1 point up. That won't happen again.
Zero2Cool (1h) : I like to tease sometimes.
uffda udfa (2h) : Only 80%? :). We lost by one given that stat? Wish we had hope of tightening up.
uffda udfa (2h) : Z, u should tell everyone who Quintorris is. Quintorris Lopez Jones, better known as Julio.
Zero2Cool (2h) : Matt Ryan completed 80% of his passes against Packers in October.
uffda udfa (2h) : McGinn goes full on attack mode dismissing the notion of "Packers people". Harsh.
uffda udfa (2h) : McGinn says John Dorsey likely to be next Packers GM.
Zero2Cool (4h) : Boom! Davante Adams says last year's ankle injury "more difficult to deal with'
uffda udfa (7h) : Packers brass potentially leaving? Not worthy of discussing. Pressure Cooker? Never enough talk about them.
Zero2Cool (13h) : Put Quintorris in a pressure cooker.
uffda udfa (17h) : Back to football: Julio says he's going to play Sunday. Did NOT say he wouldn't be limited in the game.
uffda udfa (17h) : Anyone ever used their dishwasher to make their Thanksgiving turkey?
uffda udfa (17h) : Favorite Ronnie Milsap song? Smokey Mountain Rain or Any Day Now?
uffda udfa (21h) : Favorite GM candidate... Wolf or Gutekunst?
uffda udfa (21h) : I'd rather sit them than play them too compromised.
uffda udfa (21h) : Yeah, Z. More pressure cooker talk and smoked turkeys.
Zero2Cool (21h) : If this were a regular-season game, Nelson, Adams and Allison probably would not play, MM says.
Smokey (22h) : Mason Crosby is ill, hope it's not the Flu.
Smokey (22h) : Great, can we move past that story and get back to the Atlanta game ?
Zero2Cool (22h) : Packers exec Eliot Wolf has withdrawn his name for 49ers' GM job, as @TomPelissero reported. He didn't feel it was the right time.
TheKanataThrilla (23h) : We'll just have to score TDs then.
Zero2Cool (23h) : That's what we know.
Zero2Cool (23h) : Crosby, Mason K Illness
Smokey (19-Jan) : Is He ill or not ?
Smokey (19-Jan) : Raiderpride asked, "Anyone know what Crosby's illness is?"
Zero2Cool (19-Jan) : Davante Adams expected to play- KFFL
Porforis (19-Jan) : Alright, my opinion on Jordy has changed. If he's medically cleared to play, play him.
hardrocker950 (19-Jan) : By Sunday we won't have any WRs
Zero2Cool (19-Jan) : Geronimo hamstring, Janis quad. BEAUTIFUL.
Smokey (19-Jan) : Mason Crosby, is his health OK ?
Smokey (19-Jan) : Hello
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
34m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

37m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / musccy

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Porforis

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

2h / Fantasy Sports Talk / SINCITYCHEEZE

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Rick12

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / The_Green_Ninja

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Dulak


Packers Headlines