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We're about to enter what, for Packer fans, is usually a pretty action-less time of year -- early free agency when Ted-the-consistent-seeker-of-value-without-overpaying-and-preferring-to-do-it-by-drafting-anyway Thompson rarely is heard from.
I thought it might be interesting to ask everyone who, if they were GM, they would be willing to overpay for come free agency this year....both players and positions.
My list (so far):
Offense: Greg Jennings. Offense: Ryan Clady (depending on injury prognosis). Defense: Henry Melton. Defense: Cliff Avril. OL help in general. NT help in general. |
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Overpay ... probably no one, unless it's a one year deal and I've got some cap room just sitting there. |
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Overpay? Noone, plain and simple. Overpay implicates that you pay someone more money than he's worth which is always a bad thing.  Even if I take it as you meant it, I wouldn't spend big bucks on any of those guys available. |
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This time of year, absolutely no one. This time of year teams overpay on long term team destroying deals.
I could see overpaying in Aug- November, if a catastrophic injury occured and someone was available on a short, expensive contract. Something like Benson last August. |
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If the Packers had cap space and were only one player away from being as close to a sure thing Super Bowl contender, I'd be inclined to overpaying for said player. I think the Packers are a few players away from being Super Bowl contenders. I think as long as the OL and DL are the primary weaknesses on the team, they will falter year in year out. |
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Mario Williams...Albert Haynesworth...Nnamdi Asamgouah?
On second thought, I'd rather not overpay for anyone.
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Originally Posted by: musccy  Mario Williams...Albert Haynesworth...Nnamdi Asamgouah?
On second thought, I'd rather not overpay for anyone.
I'd rather pick up free agents like Sam Shields, Dez Bishop, DuJuan Harris, Jeremy Ross, Don Barclay and Dez Moses. |
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I wouldn't overpay, but I would be curious as to what the pricetag is for Jake Long. |
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Since no one else wants to, please allow me to do some shopping.
Cedric Peerman – Running Back – Cincinnati Bengals 5’ 8” – 211 Core special teams player, natural zone runner , who runs with power 4.34 speed - Kirwan Explosion Index 76.75 6.99 cone 1.40 Ten yard split Overpaying for a guy making $540K? Peanuts.
Kenny Phillips – Free Safety – New York Giants 6’ 2” – 217 4.48 speed Can play single high and has good man skills You’re not likely to get into a bidding war for Phillips. He made 2.08 million Give him the $2.3 million that we paid Collins for 2012 (since he is now off the books)
Rocky Bernard – DT - New York Giants 6’ 4” – 300 His 2002 combine numbers 4.96 speed - Kirwan Explosion Index 72.0 Think of Bernard as a Cullen Jenkins type who can stay healthy, he’s only missed 10 games in seven years. He’s 33, but has some tread left on the tires – especially as a five-tech. He can be had by overpaying to the tune of $1 million per.
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Originally Posted by: Wade  We're about to enter what, for Packer fans, is usually a pretty action-less time of year -- early free agency when Ted-the-consistent-seeker-of-value-without-overpaying-and-preferring-to-do-it-by-drafting-anyway Thompson rarely is heard from.
I thought it might be interesting to ask everyone who, if they were GM, they would be willing to overpay for come free agency this year....both players and positions.
My list (so far):
Offense: Greg Jennings. Offense: Ryan Clady (depending on injury prognosis). Defense: Henry Melton. Defense: Cliff Avril. OL help in general. NT help in general. Gregorious- no. GB has plenty at WR they don't need to overpay. Clady- no. GB has enough injured OT already way overpay? Melton. hmmm. possible. Depends on the definition of overpay? A competitive price and maybe a dollar or two more? Sure. $1 mil over the going rate plus tons of front loaded money? no. Arvil? no. to light for a 3-4 or 2-5. He is best in a tradition 4-3 base. OL in general? no. I am comfortable for one more year with who they have. Looking for a draft and develop C. The G are adequate to above average so no need to overpay. OT. Probably already have some good ones if GB can move beyond injuries and potential and see what they really have. In 2 years I may be so inclined if there is no progress made. |
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Originally Posted by: JustJeff  Since no one else wants to, please allow me to do some shopping.
Cedric Peerman – Running Back – Cincinnati Bengals 5’ 8” – 211 Core special teams player, natural zone runner , who runs with power 4.34 speed - Kirwan Explosion Index 76.75 6.99 cone 1.40 Ten yard split Overpaying for a guy making $540K? Peanuts.
Kenny Phillips – Free Safety – New York Giants 6’ 2” – 217 4.48 speed Can play single high and has good man skills You’re not likely to get into a bidding war for Phillips. He made 2.08 million Give him the $2.3 million that we paid Collins for 2012 (since he is now off the books)
Rocky Bernard – DT - New York Giants 6’ 4” – 300 His 2002 combine numbers 4.96 speed - Kirwan Explosion Index 72.0 Think of Bernard as a Cullen Jenkins type who can stay healthy, he’s only missed 10 games in seven years. He’s 33, but has some tread left on the tires – especially as a five-tech. He can be had by overpaying to the tune of $1 million per.
These guys look intriguing. I have no idea what a Kirwan Explosion Index is but overall it sounds impressive. Bernard can prob be had for less money than Melton and he is stout enough to anchor the end a little better. But as you say, he is 33 so there needs to be a plan B if he is injured and as he looses his edge. |
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Me... overpay me. For all my posts upon the Packers, I think I should be overpaid.  |
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Originally Posted by: wpr  I have no idea what a Kirwan Explosion Index is but overall it sounds impressive. . Pat Kirwan, during his time in scouting and personnel developed a formula of a combined result of vertical leap, standing broad jump and bench press test. Kirwan marked 70 as a benchmark for an excellent combined score. The scores are relative to where the film says a player should be drafted, but are good physical measures nonetheless. Another measure that Kirwan liked was to compare the shuttle to the 40, players who were a full half second faster in the shuttle, displayed outstanding quickness. |
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all right stud. We will double nor quadruple your current salary and lock you in for another 5 make that 10 years. You will not get a better offer today. Unless your wife has anything to say. (Maybe she will take you off KP for the day.) |
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Originally Posted by: JustJeff  Since no one else wants to, please allow me to do some shopping.
Cedric Peerman – Running Back – Cincinnati Bengals 5’ 8” – 211 Core special teams player, natural zone runner , who runs with power 4.34 speed - Kirwan Explosion Index 76.75 6.99 cone 1.40 Ten yard split Overpaying for a guy making $540K? Peanuts.
Kenny Phillips – Free Safety – New York Giants 6’ 2” – 217 4.48 speed Can play single high and has good man skills You’re not likely to get into a bidding war for Phillips. He made 2.08 million Give him the $2.3 million that we paid Collins for 2012 (since he is now off the books)
Rocky Bernard – DT - New York Giants 6’ 4” – 300 His 2002 combine numbers 4.96 speed - Kirwan Explosion Index 72.0 Think of Bernard as a Cullen Jenkins type who can stay healthy, he’s only missed 10 games in seven years. He’s 33, but has some tread left on the tires – especially as a five-tech. He can be had by overpaying to the tune of $1 million per.
Devil's Advocate Cedric Peerman- Sounds like Dujuan Harris. Similar size, speed, style. Except Cedric is 2 years older and more expensive. Kenny Phillips- Plays Morgan Burnett's spot, but Morgan has experience at SS. Most acceptable to the 3 of me, but he is coming off a year in which he only played 7 games due to knee injury. Still pretty young though. Rocky Bernard- This is a nightmare for me. Let's pretend he is signed. What young player on the active roster gets replaced? Daniels? Worthy? Neil? So the development is stopped on a young player and he is replaced by someone that will maybe be here for a year or 2. What happens in 2014 when both Pickett and Bernard need replaced? Then we are really screwed. He has been relatively healthy, but played just 12 games in 2012. Is this the end? Don't care how cheap he is. Aren't the Giants a 4-3 team? |
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