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Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:16:48 PM(UTC)
ProFootballTalk said:
Cutting defensive back Charles Woodson fits perfectly with the Packers’ approach to the business of football. Using the franchise tag on receiver Greg Jennings doesn’t.

But that’s what the Packers are considering doing, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network. And that would cost the Packers more than $10 million in real dollars and cap dollars for 2013.

With Jennings turning 30 later this year and missing half of the 2012 regular season, spending that much money doesn’t make much sense, given the way the Packers do business.

Moreover, the Packers have three receivers under contract who, according to one of them, each can generate more than 1,000 yards receiving in 2013.

So we’ll believe that G.M. Ted Thompson will plunk down $10.36 million for an aging luxury when he does it. Until then, it just doesn’t fit with how the Packers do things.

Even if they do it, it still doesn’t fit.



Ian Rapoport said:
Interesting to hear the #Packers are still considering franchising Greg Jennings. Thought that ship had sailed. Apparently not.
play2win  
#2 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:54:44 PM(UTC)
Yeah, there is a lot of buzz about this right now. Zero2Cool, you called it. I'm still a bit skeptical, because it is a lot of cash. However, could be a one year deal for his services, which could make some sense.

My concern is why tag a player who looks to want out? But, this is all business.
RajiRoar  
#3 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:06:02 PM(UTC)
I could see this only if a trade partner had come to Ted Thompson at the combine,

But that seems to be a little too shady for Ted.
Zero2Cool  
#4 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:55:15 PM(UTC)
RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
I could see this only if a trade partner had come to Ted Thompson at the combine,

But that seems to be a little too shady for Ted.


Corey Williams.
doddpower  
#5 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:08:30 PM(UTC)
Yeah, I'm not really buying this either, but what do I know. If Ted was somehow able to work out a tag and trade, that would be awesome, though. It just seems like a long-shot. Jennings has made it clear he doesn't want to be tagged.

EDIT: This doesn't really seem like information the Packers would let leak either, although I suppose in the trade scenario it could have been the other team.
dfosterf  
#6 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:13:44 PM(UTC)
Keep things honest, straightforward, etc. No system manipulation, and no hosing players other than the business-is-business aspect.

Greg Jennings deserves whatever payday his career has earned him, coupled with the needs of other teams.

I think I would prefer (as a fan) to just let 'em go vs. franchise tags, etc. especially with Ted running our show-- Frankly, imo, that is one of his strengths.

I like Jennings a lot, but some shit has to give, $$$- wise, so we gotta get over it, imo



User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#7 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:14:39 PM(UTC)
I think Philbin may want Jennings in Miami, and by giving up a 2nd or 3rd in a tag-n-trade situation - he assures he gets Greg without having to outbid the other teams.
Zero2Cool  
#8 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:38:24 PM(UTC)
doddpower said: Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I'm not really buying this either, but what do I know. If Ted was somehow able to work out a tag and trade, that would be awesome, though. It just seems like a long-shot. Jennings has made it clear he doesn't want to be tagged.

EDIT: This doesn't really seem like information the Packers would let leak either, although I suppose in the trade scenario it could have been the other team.


I can only see how this happens if the Packers and his agent were discussing a contract and the possibility of being tagged came up, then the agent runs to a "source" saying "Packers are considering trading Jennings". Even if they didn't have such discussion, it benefits the client of the agent to make this tidbit known. It makes his client seem desired.
TheKanataThrilla  
#9 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:49:01 PM(UTC)
The only reason I can see a tag-and-trade is if Jennings is coming to understand he is not going to break the bank like he thinks he will.
Zero2Cool  
#10 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:52:14 PM(UTC)
Mike McCarthy said:
As far as coaching him, I’ve always enjoyed coaching him. He’s a damn good football player, he’s a great fit for what we do. He’s in this position for a reason on both sides of it, that’s why you take the time and these things work out.
musccy  
#11 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:00:14 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I think Philbin may want Jennings in Miami, and by giving up a 2nd or 3rd in a tag-n-trade situation - he assures he gets Greg without having to outbid the other teams.


I like the sound of it...I'm guessing this doesn't happen, but it'd sure be nice to get something in return.
wpr  
#12 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 6:23:19 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I think Philbin may want Jennings in Miami, and by giving up a 2nd or 3rd in a tag-n-trade situation - he assures he gets Greg without having to outbid the other teams.


won't happen. They could pay a Greg a couple of million more per year than another team to get him and keep the draft pick.

If I was GB I would do the deal. If I was Miami here is really nothing to gain. They need more than one player to make that team a contender.
Zero2Cool  
#13 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 6:30:29 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
won't happen. They could pay a Greg a couple of million more per year than another team to get him and keep the draft pick.

If I was GB I would do the deal. If I was Miami here is really nothing to gain. They need more than one player to make that team a contender.


Miami has to ask themselves, will we be a contender before Greg Jennings prime is exhausted and before he's no better than a number 3 WR? I would have to think they'd answer, yes they will be a contender. Greg Jennings has probably three or four more really good years in him. Their QB could really start to light it up in year two (I do not think this) and propel them into the playoffs and we all know ... anything can happen.

If you can get a Greg Jennings on a team that has zero threat at WR for a 2 and 3, by gosh, you do it. Even better for the trading team if the picks can be spread between two seasons. 2nd round 2013, 3rd round 2014.

Jennings is a really good WR. He gets crazy separation from defenders. Watch him during games even when he doesn't get the ball. The guy gets open. In fact, Aaron Rodgers even said that Jennings is open a lot and he needed to look his way more.

I'm not saying Jennings is one of the best in the game. I'm saying he gets good separation and is good at catching the ball and good after the catch. That is ideal for a young QB to have.
El3ment12  
#14 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 6:47:42 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
won't happen. They could pay a Greg a couple of million more per year than another team to get him and keep the draft pick.

If I was GB I would do the deal. If I was Miami here is really nothing to gain. They need more than one player to make that team a contender.


The dolphins are kinda screwed out of being a contender. They have to beat out Tom Brady to win the division.(not happenin)Also, if you compare Tannehill to all the great rookie qbs, he is pretty bad.
wpr  
#15 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 7:05:50 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Miami has to ask themselves, will we be a contender before Greg Jennings prime is exhausted and before he's no better than a number 3 WR? I would have to think they'd answer, yes they will be a contender. Greg Jennings has probably three or four more really good years in him. Their QB could really start to light it up in year two (I do not think this) and propel them into the playoffs and we all know ... anything can happen.

If you can get a Greg Jennings on a team that has zero threat at WR for a 2 and 3, by gosh, you do it. Even better for the trading team if the picks can be spread between two seasons. 2nd round 2013, 3rd round 2014.

Jennings is a really good WR. He gets crazy separation from defenders. Watch him during games even when he doesn't get the ball. The guy gets open. In fact, Aaron Rodgers even said that Jennings is open a lot and he needed to look his way more.

I'm not saying Jennings is one of the best in the game. I'm saying he gets good separation and is good at catching the ball and good after the catch. That is ideal for a young QB to have.


Greg can be all world unanimous first ballot HOF. Miami will not make a trade.
Rockmolder  
#16 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 7:57:42 AM(UTC)
On the whole Greg to Miami thing...

Bob McGinn:
Quote:
Things can always change, but I've been told that #Dolphins' Joe Philbin isn't a huge fan of Greg Jennings as a player. Needs a WR but ...
gbguy20  
#17 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:17:05 AM(UTC)
Uhhmm am I the only one who sees Jennings being really upset if he has to play under a 1 year deal right now? talk about costing him millions in the long run.
Rockmolder  
#18 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:24:05 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Uhhmm am I the only one who sees Jennings being really upset if he has to play under a 1 year deal right now? talk about costing him millions in the long run.


He might be, as he's not getting any younger, but his last two seasons haven't really helped his contract situation, either.

It'd be a chance to prove that he's still that 1,200 yard receiver and maybe get even more in FA... Or don't do a thing and lose even more money.
Zero2Cool  
#19 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:24:29 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Uhhmm am I the only one who sees Jennings being really upset if he has to play under a 1 year deal right now? talk about costing him millions in the long run.


It could work out in his favor if he plays all 16 games and nets over 1,000 yards, 10+ TD's and 80+ catches. Teams would be lining up for a player like that, far more than his current stats.
play2win  
#20 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:57:34 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Uhhmm am I the only one who sees Jennings being really upset if he has to play under a 1 year deal right now? talk about costing him millions in the long run.


No. I believe that would be the case too. I think Jennings has an inflated sense of his own worth in the FA market, and I really question the idea of hitting him with the tag. Not to mention, what would our return really be with a player who might feel like he's underpaid? At $10M+??? Wow.

I'm thinking we should stay away, unfortunately. I like Jennings a lot and he is a good fit in GB, at least he was. His posturing during all of last season was evident, and it seems foolish to try to bring a player back after that. $10M+ can go a very long way towards shoring up some other areas of our team. That is a big price tag, just for the tag amount, and he wants way more. Matthews and Rodgers will be astronomical cap figures.

Tagging Jennings makes no sense to me unless it is sign and trade. I don't see the value in keeping a potentially disgruntled player for a near max contract, especially with all the positions we still need to address on this Packers team.
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