Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:59:59 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,504
Applause Received: 4,058
I don't see a scenario where both Jermichael Finley and Greg Jennings do not return.

ProFootballTalk said:
Sunday brought word that the Packers are still considering using their franchise tag on wide receiver Greg Jennings and that doesn’t seem to be the only issue vexing them with the start of free agency approaching quickly.

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that the team is “torn” about whether or not they will keep tight end Jermichael Finley for the 2013 season. The question of Finley’s future has been batted around for months, with McGinn previously reporting that the Packers had already decided to dump Finley before the second year of the two-year deal he signed last offseason.

Now the word is that the Packers coaching staff and General Manager Ted Thompson want Finley to return for another year while “other people in the organization” favor his release. That split would seem to favor Finley’s return, although there may be a desire to revisit the financial picture on the Packers’ end of things.
Offline earthquake  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 9:19:38 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 520
Applause Received: 170
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't see a scenario where both Jermichael Finley and Greg Jennings do not return.



Yeah, I have to agree with that. If Jennings isn't tagged and he signs somewhere else, I can't see GB cutting Finley. That's too big of a hit to the receiving core to take in one year. If they tag Jennings or manage to sign him to a contract, I can see Finley getting cut to free up money.

If Jennings doesn't get tagged and walks, GB is essentially tagging Finley again, his contract was basically a 2 year contract at about the TE franchise tag number, or a little lower. So keeping Finley around for one more year isn't really a big risk, unless they want to extend Mathews, Raji and Rodgers all in 2013, then they probably need the cap space this year.
Offline doddpower  
#3 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 3:22:44 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Gold: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Gold: 2016FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2015

United States
Joined: 9/24/2007(UTC)
Location: Visalia, CA
Applause Given: 3,422
Applause Received: 948
earthquake said: Go to Quoted Post
If Jennings doesn't get tagged and walks, GB is essentially tagging Finley again, his contract was basically a 2 year contract at about the TE franchise tag number, or a little lower. So keeping Finley around for one more year isn't really a big risk, unless they want to extend Mathews, Raji and Rodgers all in 2013, then they probably need the cap space this year.


Finley's cap number is actually over $2 million above the franchise tag for tight ends in 2013. The tag number is about $6 million and Finley is set to make almost $8.8 million.

http://www.nfl.com/news/...y-set-2013-cap-near-121m

http://www.spotrac.com/n...ckers/jermichael-finley/
Offline JustJeff  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:00:34 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 2/5/2013(UTC)
Location: Backin' the Pack
Applause Given: 11
Applause Received: 16
If it were left to me, I would do my best to trade Finley.

Having said that, Finley is very likely a Packer this year.

The article is Bob McGinn being Bob McGinn. He wrote mid-season that Finley was a goner. Finley stopped talking and played better.

Now the season is over and what does Bob do? He writes that the team is "torn." Really, Bob?

Quote:
Sources indicated that Thompson and the coaching staff appear to favor keeping Finley, while other people within the organization, including members of the personnel department, favor his release.


Thompson and the coaching staff v other people?

How does Thompson and the coaching staff v other people even rate as the Packers being torn?
thanks Post received 1 applause.
Zero2Cool on 2/26/2013(UTC)
Offline wpr  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:11:50 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 4,000
Applause Received: 2,050
JustJeff said: Go to Quoted Post
If it were left to me, I would do my best to trade Finley.

Having said that, Finley is very likely a Packer this year.

The article is Bob McGinn being Bob McGinn. He wrote mid-season that Finley was a goner. Finley stopped talking and played better.

Now the season is over and what does Bob do? He writes that the team is "torn." Really, Bob?



Thompson and the coaching staff v other people?

How does Thompson and the coaching staff v other people even rate as the Packers being torn?


yep. I thought the same thing when I read it. The only 2 real votes are Ted's and Mike's.

Unless they are at odds none of the other votes really matter.
Offline Pack93z  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:29:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin
Applause Given: 437
Applause Received: 1,237
Personally, I think Finley is more important than just about any other target we have available to this offense. I think Quarless could be a poor man's version, but what Finley (and guys like him) do to a defense is vital opening up other holes in the defense. Once he started holding onto the damn ball defenses started to roll coverage to minimize his effectiveness.

His speed size ratio and athleticism make him a game changer.. not to forget that he will be in a contract year and motivated even more.

I think keeping him, even at the number if need be is more important than bringing Jennings back. IE I think it will be easier to replace Jennings in this offense than Finley.

Now if the right talent at TE falls to us in the draft.. I very well might change my mind and flip the other way.. but as of right now, Finley brings something to the table that we currently lack even with Jennings.. a match up issue based on the raw player talent over scheme. Yes.. even Cobb has to be schemed in with movement to scare the defense.. once he improves the crispness of his routes that may change as well, but currently the Packers have to use scheme to help him get loose. Whereas Finley can push a defense by his raw talent and body type from traditional TE spots or simply moving him wide.

I think the Packers hold onto him until they have a replacement option on the offense.. a guy that snap in and out can be a match up problem for the defense as an individual. Whether that is a elite receiver or another TE that can create the same type of issues for the defense.. maybe with a little be less of the "drama" that seems to follow Finley.. in which most of it is created by the media more so than him. Finley is the classic case of a guy that would benefit from a change of scenery and a chance to drop some of rep that has been attached to him.. even if the comments were from a couple years ago.
Offline nerdmann  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:25:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6,413
Applause Received: 1,424
JustJeff said: Go to Quoted Post
If it were left to me, I would do my best to trade Finley.

Having said that, Finley is very likely a Packer this year.

The article is Bob McGinn being Bob McGinn. He wrote mid-season that Finley was a goner. Finley stopped talking and played better.

Now the season is over and what does Bob do? He writes that the team is "torn." Really, Bob?



Thompson and the coaching staff v other people?

How does Thompson and the coaching staff v other people even rate as the Packers being torn?


My question is, who are these other people?

There's Thompson. Then there's the coaching staff. LOL

Did they call Brent and ask his opinion?
Offline JustJeff  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:36:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 2/5/2013(UTC)
Location: Backin' the Pack
Applause Given: 11
Applause Received: 16
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
My question is, who are these other people?

There's Thompson. Then there's the coaching staff. LOL

Did they call Brent and ask his opinion?


Quote:
Sources indicated that Thompson and the coaching staff appear to favor keeping Finley, while other people within the organization, including members of the personnel department, favor his release.

The list would be short and might be one of McGinn's sources.

This is everyone in personnel not strictly college.
Eliot Wolf, Director of Pro Personnel
Alonzo Highsmith, Senior Personnel Executive
Tim Terry, Assistant Director of Pro Personnel
Chad Brinker, Pro Scout
Glenn Cook, Pro Scout

Wolf's not saying anything to anyone. I guarantee it.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:48:17 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,504
Applause Received: 4,058
I agree. The Packers inked up the contract just a year ago. However, if they want to sign him to a three year deal that gives more bonus and less base salary, I think it would be good for both sides.

Jermichael Finley said:
I’d have to walk for sure, meaning I couldn’t take a pay cut. Maybe I’d restructure if it’s a deal that I like and it makes sense, but I’m not the guy that’s just going to sign anything and let anything pass. I’m not that guy. Other than that, taking a pay cut or restructuring doesn’t sound good to me at this time. I like my deal. I start training in Minneapolis tomorrow and I’m more inspired than ever to start next season off right and be the tight end I know I can be. It’s all business at the end of the day. I just love what I do.
Offline nerdmann  
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:58:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6,413
Applause Received: 1,424
He's still only 24.

I might give him another year to grow up, just for that reason alone.

Unless he pisses me off. In that case, I'd trade him. Get something for him.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
uffda udfa (1h) : It's the same day every day at 1265. They crave sameness.
uffda udfa (1h) : Didn't care u were talking cooking just that u tried censoring GM talk.
mojaveson (1h) : Tough loss, but it's now Monday and time to move forward. I hope the front office feels the same way and gets right to work on filling the h
uffda udfa (1h) : I'm going to start a favorite Pixar movie right before opening day 2017.
uffda udfa (1h) : Don't discuss Packers brass during game week. Cooking appliances are more interesting.
uffda udfa (1h) : I grew up in Wisconsin. Don't u see you created your own irony?
uffda udfa (2h) : Or pecans or walnuts? That is nuts.
uffda udfa (2h) : That's hilarious. No GM talk says u but let's talk cooking appliances?
uffda udfa (2h) : Meanwhile, you're talking turkeys, crock pots and pressure cookers.
uffda udfa (2h) : Smokey...U complained about too much Eliot Wolf talk not game talk.
uffda udfa (2h) : Disagree. He choose to roll into endzone. Safety was right call.
Smokey (2h) : U2, take your Texas redneck thinking and serve it with your pot of beans .
uffda udfa (2h) : Said maybe 1 yard line but no control until on goal line.
uffda udfa (2h) : Claimed momentum carried into endzone.
uffda udfa (2h) : Claimed it could never been ruled a safety.
uffda udfa (2h) : Mike Pereira explained on Twitter what he should've on FOX.
Smokey (2h) : Keeping them thread separated is the key. Fan Shout is for any and all members to post as they please. No one voted you King U2 .
uffda udfa (2h) : This is for NFL stuff. Not crock pots or crack pots.
uffda udfa (2h) : Shout is not back alley. Not your forum either.
Smokey (2h) : Cooking, or travel, or our favorite movie have every right in this forum.
Smokey (2h) : It is not, YOUR FORUM . Even politics is tolerated in the Back Ally .
uffda udfa (2h) : I love cooking but this is a Packers forum not Iron Chef.
Smokey (2h) : Anyone, man or woman, that can cook does not need to always depend upon others to cook their food for them.
Smokey (2h) : The greater majority of successful restaurants are owned/and run by Men.
Smokey (2h) : Making fun of the art of cooking only demonstrates a lack of sophistication.
Smokey (2h) : Most of the finest chefs in the world are men.
hardrocker950 (4h) : lol
uffda udfa (4h) : Best pressure cooker talk on the net!
hardrocker950 (5h) : Time to get the CB situation sorted out
Smokey (5h) : DON'T DELAY, JOIN TODAY !
musccy (7h) : Sorry, but no to shields. 9 mil better spent elsewhere.
uffda udfa (8h) : Sam Shields still having headaches but wants to continue playing.
uffda udfa (8h) : Not harsh. Another failure and playoff embarrassment.
uffda udfa (8h) : Aaron cried a little when asked about Jordy playing today.
GoPack1984 (8h) : Dismal season? I think that's too harsh.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Dulak

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / mojaveson

2h / Around The NFL / mojaveson

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / mojaveson

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

7h / Fantasy Sports Talk / Smokey

8h / Around The NFL / mojaveson

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / luigis

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

10h / Announcements / wpr

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / mojaveson


Packers Headlines