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Offline Yerko  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:39:18 PM(UTC)
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I'd be upset if we drafted defensive line in the first round.




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Offline play2win  
#27 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:31:57 AM(UTC)
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I'd be upset if we drafted defensive line in the first round.




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#28 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:19:06 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
I'd be upset if we drafted defensive line in the first round.




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yeah, why? I'd be upset if we don't draft a D Lineman in the first round. To answer the original question of the thread, I think RB in round one would tick me off the most. It's so easy to get good ones on the scrap heap, and so difficult - basically a crapshoot whether a first round pick becomes a star player.
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:21:38 AM(UTC)
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look at his smilies. its is in jest.
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Offline play2win  
#30 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:54:03 AM(UTC)
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Well, if they got busy in FA a bit and landed a couple of good defenders, I could see them nabbing a top RB or LT. Maybe even a TE if they were to let Finley go. As much as I want them to hit the D hard, I wouldn't have a problem with them taking a offensive player round 1.

I'm having doubts that would be the case though. So, I'm right with you texas.
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:38:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
No. Favre's successor WAS a hole to fill. Without question. He had been feigning retirement for some time prior. The fact that Rodgers dropped in our laps was a giant stroke of good luck. He was mocked to go #4 to TB by Walter.

We had defensive needs at the time in our secondary. Walter had us mocked to pick CB R1, then to pick QB Charlie Frye R2. I saw Matt Cassel as our R1 pick in a Scout mock. So, word was out, and really, it was common knowledge that we needed a QB. Fave was entering his 14th season.

Not bustin' your balls QCHuskerFan, but that is the way it was then. I think nearly everyone thought, "well, OK..." when we went Rodgers. The pick made perfect sense. Favre had seemed invincible, but everyone knew his time was running out, and getting his replacement was imperative over those next two seasons.

Funny too, that those defensive needs were addressed with Ted's R2 pick of Nick Collins. What a draft!


Not many people thought that was a great pick, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth around the campfires along the Fox River and into the valleys of southern and western Packerland, even up Nort. One always hopes for some immediate help from the draft but more times than not that doesn't happen for whatever reasons. So I felt, even thought we had Brett who could easily play another half dozen years at that point, it was a great pick for the future. It was the classic BPA pick. Most available players are rated closely so that BPA also fills a need.

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#32 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:49:31 AM(UTC)
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Oh...which pick would tick me off...none...I have 100% faith Ted Thompson will make the best pick possible based on our situation. What would I like to see...more help for the front seven, especially on DL, or Pro Bowl safety. What I'd least like to see outside QB,P,K...OG, unless he's an immediate All Pro. I believe a good center would really help this team's offense so I hope we can address that with more than a UFA or late pick.
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:07:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx Go to Quoted Post
Not many people thought that was a great pick, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth around the campfires along the Fox River and into the valleys of southern and western Packerland, even up Nort. One always hopes for some immediate help from the draft but more times than not that doesn't happen for whatever reasons. So I felt, even thought we had Brett who could easily play another half dozen years at that point, it was a great pick for the future. It was the classic BPA pick. Most available players are rated closely so that BPA also fills a need.



There were a lot of complaints from fans many of them were Favre-ites. I loved the Aaron Rodgers pick. It is not often you get a prospective #1 overall pick falling all the way down to #24. I figured Brett had 2-3 years left in him tops. It takes 3 years to develop a qb so if Brett quit after 2 years Rodgers would have to learn under fire. If Brett stuck around for 4 years Rodgers would be sitting on the bench a little longer than he needed to but that is the breaks of the NFL.
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:56:36 AM(UTC)
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Okay.
It would knock me right off my square if they picked a cornerback.
How irrational is that?
I'm all worked up over a slim possibility.
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:10:14 PM(UTC)
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Not counting K, P and QB

I think my least favorite positions for a 1st round pick would be

ILB, OG, C, RB.

I think if the Packers resign Brad Jones their ILB group is pretty good. Not great but Hawk played a lot better with the defensive changes this year and the group as a whole is very good. And I think 3-4 ILB is a role position more than play making... unless you got a LB that can it all... cover like a Safety, blitz like a 3-4 OLB and tackle.

Seems like 1st round Centers rarely live up to the 1st round grade.

OG can live up to 1st round grade, but I think the Packers found a nice back-up OG in Barclay. He needed some extra help at OT, I don't think he would at OG, plus don't like to draft an OG high if he can't play OT nor C.

RB, just because it seems like a lot of 1st round RBs don't live up to it. They're great with very good blocking and weak college defenders trying to get them but look bad against NFL guys. Don't get me wrong, some RBs are worth it, but a lot of teams have waited until 2nd or 3rd and picked up a nice one just as good or better than some 1st round RB picks.

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#36 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:49:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
You're just like Gunny, don't know shit from shinola. Big Grin

I'd rather we took a legitimate center than a guard, but interior run blocker is a must.

Would anybody give up our #1 for Revis and the Jets 3rd?


The gunny was an absolute expert on football while you shat through your pants and diapers, smeared it all over your face and ate it... only to be stopped once in a great while when relatives showed up to try and wipe the disgusting mess off you as a humanitarian gesture to your poor- overwhelmed parents.

That being said... Laugh

Lineman on offense or DE / OLB defense. I want them and I hate wanting them.

Again. Because Ted is not getting it done.
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:56:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
The gunny was an absolute expert on football while you shat through your pants and diapers, smeared it all over your face and ate it... only to be stopped once in a great while when relatives showed up to try and wipe the disgusting mess off you as a humanitarian gesture to your poor- overwhelmed parents.



Well I have news for you, when you revert back to shitting in your pants and living off the state of Pennsylvania in an old person's home, I'll be there slipping you some Cialis in your pureed food. Then I'll stick around and watch the Packer game with you and laugh when the CNA's check out your wood.
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:58:14 PM(UTC)
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Well I have news for you, when you revert back to shitting in your pants and living off the state of Pennsylvania in an old person's home, I'll be there slipping you some Cialis in your pureed food. Then I'll stick around and watch the Packer game with you and laugh when the CNA's check out your wood.




It's a deal, and I appreciate it, lol

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Offline play2win  
#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:54:40 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx Go to Quoted Post
Oh...which pick would tick me off...none...I have 100% faith Ted Thompson will make the best pick possible based on our situation. What would I like to see...more help for the front seven, especially on DL, or Pro Bowl safety. What I'd least like to see outside QB,P,K...OG, unless he's an immediate All Pro. I believe a good center would really help this team's offense so I hope we can address that with more than a UFA or late pick.


PackerTraxx, I couldn't agree more.

I desperately want them to add a DE, NT, S and a LB - all players who can start. However, I'm open to Ted nabbing a WR, TE, LT, RB or C if they choose to go to one of those positions early.

We need help at every one of those positions to varying degrees. Take "need" out of the equation, and upgrades through true BPA will make this team better.

I'm stoked for this draft.
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:10:13 AM(UTC)
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It is not so much the position that would tick me off as much as it would be the player.

For example. If Uncle Ted drafts Justin Harrell AGAIN I will:



Ted has been know to take a flyer on injury prone players that he sees as having a great upside IF they are healthy. In the 5th round- fantastic. In the first round NOOOOOOOOOOO!
I didn't mind he drafting Starks or Datko. Back then I did trust his judgement on Harrell but he was used that card. Stick with healthy players please.
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#41 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:12:23 AM(UTC)
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#42 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46:15 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
No. Favre's successor WAS a hole to fill. Without question. He had been feigning retirement for some time prior. The fact that Rodgers dropped in our laps was a giant stroke of good luck. He was mocked to go #4 to TB by Walter.

We had defensive needs at the time in our secondary. Walter had us mocked to pick CB R1, then to pick QB Charlie Frye R2. I saw Matt Cassel as our R1 pick in a Scout mock. So, word was out, and really, it was common knowledge that we needed a QB. Fave was entering his 14th season.

Not bustin' your balls QCHuskerFan, but that is the way it was then. I think nearly everyone thought, "well, OK..." when we went Rodgers. The pick made perfect sense. Favre had seemed invincible, but everyone knew his time was running out, and getting his replacement was imperative over those next two seasons.

Funny too, that those defensive needs were addressed with Ted's R2 pick of Nick Collins. What a draft!


Play, you are right, but few people saw it that way. Most people I talked with, articles and comments in the paper etc. didn't think much of the pick because Favre was still there. There were some exceptions. I thought we were pretty fortunate from the get go. As for need it was disappointing, but for long term it seemed to be great value and, of course, turned out to be.
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#43 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:46:40 AM(UTC)
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The position that would piss me off the most would be WR, just imagine if we had Crabtree (who is starting to play like a beast) and Bryant( who plays like a beast when he wants) and throw in Jordy and Cobb. Lets see we draft Raji instead of Crabtree and The whale instead of Bryant hmmm so far so good TT.

Ok if you know me I will hate whatever pick Ted Thompson makes lol :)
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#44 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:16:51 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
The position that would piss me off the most would be WR, just imagine if we had Crabtree (who is starting to play like a beast) and Bryant( who plays like a beast when he wants) and throw in Jordy and Cobb. Lets see we draft Raji instead of Crabtree and The whale instead of Bryant hmmm so far so good TT.

Ok if you know me I will hate whatever pick Ted Thompson makes lol :)


If the Packers had drafted Michael Crabtree, Packers don't win or even get to Super Bowl XLV.
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:19:17 AM(UTC)
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If the Packers had drafted Michael Crabtree, Packers don't win or even get to Super Bowl XLV.


truth. Plus add to the equation everyone wanting to be paid starter's money. They can't put all of them out there at the same time every single play.
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#46 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:13:01 AM(UTC)
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To my mind, the only way you spend a first rounder on a P or K is if they will "re-invent" the position. (E.g., Ray Guy).

[Come to think of it, the Packers did once spend a first rounder on a P who re-invented the position. Of course he was drafted as a running back, where he was arguably semi-bust. But as a punter he re-defined the position. Though I would have howled if they had picked a punter, even that one.]

Other than that, which I can't imagine someone like Ted Thompson ever even contemplating, what would piss me off more than anything would be picking something that is at the bottom of the need list. And that means, for me, *any* of the offensive skill positions other than TE.

QB, WR, RB...these are bad picks in the first for GB IMO.
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#47 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:37:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
truth. Plus add to the equation everyone wanting to be paid starter's money. They can't put all of them out there at the same time every single play.


And Packers probably don't draft Randall Cobb if they have Michael Crabtree. Crabtree just never made sense to draft during or in hindsight.
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#48 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:26:41 AM(UTC)
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I could see taking Sebastian Janikowski with a first. But that's about it.
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