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Offline play2win  
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:25:19 PM(UTC)
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Reggie White was 32 when we signed him, and 36 when we won the SB.

Something to think about. I believe that was Ted's biggest mistake with Cullen Jenkins. NYG is a smart organization, and they got a bargain. So did PHI before that.

There are some older players out there who can still bring it. With Ted's mentality, he never would have signed Reggie White, one of the greatest Packers ever to play.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:35:32 PM(UTC)
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I'll agree with you on most positions,

but in regard to Steven Jackson, hey may turn out to be the exeption to the rule, but more often than not, at 30 years old, most RBs production drops off a cliff.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:51:35 PM(UTC)
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Sorry Raji, but I wasn't thinking in RB terms at all. And I agree with you there.

Just thinking some very serviceable players who would be great in DL rotation are precluded from consideration by age, like:
Umenyiora
Freeney
Abraham
Hampton
Seymore
Spears

Times have changed, but there are some specially gifted, older players who I think should be considered. The Jenkins thing still pisses me off, and I can't get over it. We should have won 2 SBs in a row, and could have gone undefeated if we had him in 2011.
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play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Sorry Raji, but I wasn't thinking in RB terms at all. And I agree with you there.

Just thinking some very serviceable players who would be great in DL rotation are precluded from consideration by age, like:
Umenyiora
Freeney
Abraham
Hampton
Seymore
Spears

Times have changed, but there are some specially gifted, older players who I think should be considered. The Jenkins thing still pisses me off, and I can't get over it. We should have won 2 SBs in a row, and could have gone undefeated if we had him in 2011.


Jenkins had problems staying healthy even before he turned 30.

Not the same player.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:21:25 PM(UTC)
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Guaging age of a player is a positional thing. For a quarterback 35-36 is when they start showing age. For a running back, that number is 30, or even sooner if said player is a workhorse back. You get a little more life from a receiver, but when they start getting caught from behind, then it is time to start looking for the replacement.

I would only give a long term contract to a quarterback or Offensive lineman post 30 years old. Everybody else would be 3 years max.
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I agree that aged players are not necessarily "finished" but they won't be the "key" of winning a SB. Jenkins did not want to take a home discount and left on his own terms. On top of that we saw what he did with Eagles ... oh wait two losing seasons by them while acquiring the top FA's on defense in that year. Now I'm not saying Jenkins wouldn't have helped but there are other more important players to be retained which are young and cheaper.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:38:22 PM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Jenkins had problems staying healthy even before he turned 30.

Not the same player.


Jenkins has not missed a game in the two years since his release by GB, with 9.5 sacks.

No DL in GB comes close to that production over two years.
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It doesn't seem like PHI thought they got a bargain since they restructured his contract after 1 year and cut him after 2.
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play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Reggie White was 32 when we signed him, and 36 when we won the SB.

Something to think about. I believe that was Ted's biggest mistake with Cullen Jenkins. NYG is a smart organization, and they got a bargain. So did PHI before that.

There are some older players out there who can still bring it. With Ted's mentality, he never would have signed Reggie White, one of the greatest Packers ever to play.



Who said Packers didn't sign Jenkins because of age?

It's been said, Jenkins priced himself out of the market (like Jennings did)

And both their prices had to drop before teams would think about signing them.

It's been rumored the Packers offered more than Jenkins ended up signing for (which has also been said about Jennings).

It was said the Packers offered Jennings $10 million per season at one point. But he thought he could get $12 million from the Dolphins. (better weather and more money and his family and him loved the idea of Miami.)

Now he might be taking $7 to $8 million per season.

Also Eagles made him take a pay cut ...

steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
It doesn't seem like PHI thought they got a bargain since they restructured his contract after 1 year and cut him after 2.
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There are other positions and players, and I agree age affects different positions in different ways. Thinking we could add a LT as a starter or backup,or a DL to be a part of a "rebuild the rotation" plan.

Bryant McKinney won a SB last year as a backup who became a SB starter.

As for revisiting Cullen Jenkins end in GB, it went exactly like Woodson, with Ted not saying anything, not making an offer, not telling his player to test the market and get back.... Nothing. That, to me, is irresponsible.

Jenkins never had a chance to make the hometown discount. There were a lot of fans saying we could have afforded him for what he signed for in PHI.
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