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Offline Cal2GreenBay  
#1 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 3:36:41 PM(UTC)
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Elvis Dumervil was cut from Denver.

Sign him, and put him opposite of Clay Matthews and the front 7 will be MUCH improved.
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#2 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 3:38:10 PM(UTC)
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"Broncos have released Dumervil after they did not get his paperwork regarding the reduction in salary from $12 million to $8 million until after the 2 p.m. MT deadline that made his original salary guaranteed."


Would he still be expecting $8 million?

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#3 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 3:38:49 PM(UTC)
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Then pump Perry up to 300 lbs to play DE.
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#4 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 3:42:40 PM(UTC)
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Would he still be expecting $8 million?


My expectation would be yes.

CBS Sports had a story on it where the Broncos have had to take a $5M Cap hit because of the release, and they're unlikely to be able to re-sign him any where close to the $8M (unless it's all signing bonuses?).

CBS Sports wrote:
So, what happens now? Can't the team and Dumervil just come back together and agree to a completely new deal that restores his $8 million salary? It might not be that easy.

According to spotrac.com, Dumervil's dead-money hit to the salary cap is now nearly $5 million. That money remains whether Dumervil is on the team or not. Theoretically, the team could give Dumervil a new deal and put most of the money into a signing bonus, which the Broncos could then spread across the length of the deal for cap purposes.

But another $8 million contract for this year just doesn't seem likely. It appears Dumervil just lost a ton of money.


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#5 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 3:47:53 PM(UTC)
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Not signing Jennings, and cutting Finley would yield enough for Dumervil
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#6 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 3:57:54 PM(UTC)
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Is it written anywhere that Rodgers, Matthews, or Raji need to be resigned this year? Hell, if Raji doesn't pick up his game, don't know if he should even be resigned.
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Offline Cal2GreenBay  
#7 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 4:24:46 PM(UTC)
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With Jennings, Finley, and Driver gone, the receiving corps will be depleted. Just three guys.
Tedford will have to draft.

I think Dumervil is the guy to get.
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#8 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 4:37:42 PM(UTC)
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Dumervil would be interesting. Fine pass rusher but below average at stopping the run
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#9 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 5:13:10 PM(UTC)
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Dumervil is a pass rush specialist ... kind of like KGB. Could be very helpful, but we can't pass rush both OLB every snap...

Which OLB would be dropping back into coverage? Dumervil or Matthews?

Unless the Packers stay in the nickel 2-4 (with OLB moved up) which is basically a 4-2 with stand up 4-3 DEs.
And the Packers could make it a 4-3 with stand up 4-3 DEs with Dumervil and Perry at the DEs with Matthews at LB.

But they would have to stop the run out of that... which they haven't been able to do even in the 3-4 look...

It could work... but they would need to another great OL clogger to go with Pickett (Raji can at times) ...

And someone to help Dumervil against the run.

Most likely not gonna happen...
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#10 Posted : Friday, March 15, 2013 6:56:39 PM(UTC)
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Isn't he more of a 4-3 end?

He's gonna wanna get paid, either way.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:59:00 PM(UTC)
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So what we get this year then?

we lose a bunch of good peeps and get nothing?

so woodson and jennings 2 awesome guys and crabtree a real bruiser of a TE (and we keep quarless and williams etc?)

and what do we get these signings? ...
geez - at least if we got jackson we might have a running game; how big is dujuan harris?> 5'8? come on

get dumervile or something ...

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#12 Posted : Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:39:36 PM(UTC)
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Too late, the Ravens are interested.

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Isn't he more of a 4-3 end?

He's gonna wanna get paid, either way.


He has said he MUCH prefers the 4-3 to the 3-4. But hey money talks.... who ever pays him the most he'll listen.

He's a speed rusher, who's not great against the run nor in pass coverage.

He did play one season in a 3-4 defense and got 17 sacks that season, but was moved a round a lot and got to face off against the offenses lines worst pass protector a lot because of that.

So like this last season, the Lions RG was horrible, he would be lined up at ILB and the DL would run a stunt to get him one on one with the RG.

Of course teams saw this and started running directly at him, because he's not that good against the run.

But hey... it was 17 sacks... you can have some run defense with 17 sacks. But the question is how bad? ... and he may or may not play a lot against the Vikings.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:32:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dulak Go to Quoted Post
So what we get this year then?

we lose a bunch of good peeps and get nothing?

so woodson and jennings 2 awesome guys and crabtree a real bruiser of a TE (and we keep quarless and williams etc?)

and what do we get these signings? ...
geez - at least if we got jackson we might have a running game; how big is dujuan harris?> 5'8? come on

get dumervile or something ...



Oh yeah, I think there are a lot of people feeling this same way.

Looks more and more like Ted is going the "Run What 'Cha Brung!" approach, not dipping into any FA, or only low cost FAs, cutting off a bunch of high priced contracts, and parlaying those savings into re-signing Rodgers and Matthews.

With the dollars Ted Thompson has to afford in Rodgers and Matthews he can't play in Free Agency. It is just impossible. Everybody wants to keep both players, but many are not looking clearly at what Ted has to do to make that happen.

Here are two examples of the kinds of contracts Ted must fit into our caps moving forward for both Rodgers and Matthews:
Flacco cap hit: 2013: $6.8M, 2014: $14.8M, 2015: $14.5M, 2016: $28.5M, 2017: $31.2M, 2018: $24.7M. Williams cap hit: 2013: $12.4M, 2014: $18.4M, 2015: $19M, 2016: $19.9M, 2017: $16.5M. Those are GIANT cap numbers. Figure our two players in Rodgers and Matthews will be very similar, or more.

Those look pretty back ended. Ted will want to front load as much as possible. I don't think he wants to sign anyone in FA this year.
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