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Offline play2win  
#1 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 11:09:36 AM(UTC)

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Amazing... updated today.

http://www.nationalfootb...wl-odds-reboot-1641.html

Only NE, SF, DEN, SEA ahead of us, in that order. We are ahead of ATL, NO, NYG, PIT, BAL... WAS, CHI...
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#2 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 12:13:52 PM(UTC)

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I would love to see us back at the big game ... But with all the personnel changes and unwillingness to invest the $ I will be curious to see how the season comes together...
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 1:24:38 PM(UTC)

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josherwan, me too!

It is really funny, looking at this giant investment fans and teams have made these past couple weeks/months on FA in energy, money, players etc, but if we can get some guys back healthy and add another 3 or 4 serious contributors via the draft, who knows? It could work ala 2010.

I didn't think it would be possible. Then, I changed up my perspective a bit. We'll see. I'm curious to see what happens much like yourself.
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 3:39:23 PM(UTC)

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Amazing... updated today.

http://www.nationalfootb...wl-odds-reboot-1641.html

Only NE, SF, DEN, SEA ahead of us, in that order. We are ahead of ATL, NO, NYG, PIT, BAL... WAS, CHI...


We have to prove we can beat SF.

Seattle? They don't scare me.
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#5 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 5:34:01 PM(UTC)

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We will be right in there with this upper tier of teams. It comes down to who gets hot at the right time. In the last three years I would say the strongest looking team or even the best team through the balance of the season did NOT win the SB.

I don't know how the Pack pulled it out with all the injuries in '10 and everyone knows the Giants and Ravens were no where near being the best team throughout those seasons.

But they were all the best teams when it got to crunch time. Mojo. I don't know what that is and there is no way to bottle it or predict what team finds it at the right time.

Chemistry. The variable that makes winning it all so damn hard to do.
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#6 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 5:37:48 PM(UTC)

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Heh. They certainly scare me.

They have a very physical defense that gets the job done. They sacked Aaron Rodgers 8 times in the first half in their game. That shows their physicality. They even have a very strong, no pun intended, secondary that gets the push off every WR corps they go up against.

When we went against them, they had a pretty pedestrian offense that relied solely on Marshawn Lynch. Now the playbook is wide open for Russell Wilson and Seattle's version of the read-option, and they added the dynamic Percy Harvin who is bound to present us with some problems.

Beatable, yes. But at this point they're the better football team.
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#7 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 6:13:33 PM(UTC)

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blueleopard said: Go to Quoted Post
Heh. They certainly scare me.

They have a very physical defense that gets the job done. They sacked Aaron Rodgers 8 times in the first half in their game. That shows their physicality. They even have a very strong, no pun intended, secondary that gets the push off every WR corps they go up against.

When we went against them, they had a pretty pedestrian offense that relied solely on Marshawn Lynch. Now the playbook is wide open for Russell Wilson and Seattle's version of the read-option, and they added the dynamic Percy Harvin who is bound to present us with some problems.

Beatable, yes. But at this point they're the better football team.


Eh, I'll believe that win they ACTUALLY beat the Packers. So far, the 'new' Seahawks are 0-1 against the Packers, considering the fail mary. They're a good team, and have appeared to improve themselves on paper this off season. But again, it goes back to being Champions in March vs. Winners in December +. I don't see how they can be labeled "the better football team" at this point. A better defense, yes, but that's about as far as I would go. A lot changes between now and mid-to-late season.

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#8 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 6:19:05 PM(UTC)

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warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
We will be right in there with this upper tier of teams. It comes down to who gets hot at the right time. In the last three years I would say the strongest looking team or even the best team through the balance of the season did NOT win the SB.

I don't know how the Pack pulled it out with all the injuries in '10 and everyone knows the Giants and Ravens were no where near being the best team throughout those seasons.

But they were all the best teams when it got to crunch time. Mojo. I don't know what that is and there is no way to bottle it or predict what team finds it at the right time.

Chemistry. The variable that makes winning it all so damn hard to do.


One aspect that I often see overlooked when people say the Packers simply got hot at the right time is the fact that they were never behind by more than seven points during the entire season. That's something that is rarely ever accomplished and only is accomplished by a really good team.
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#9 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2013 7:09:41 PM(UTC)

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doddpower said: Go to Quoted Post
Eh, I'll believe that win they ACTUALLY beat the Packers. So far, the 'new' Seahawks are 0-1 against the Packers, considering the fail mary. They're a good team, and have appeared to improve themselves on paper this off season. But again, it goes back to being Champions in March vs. Winners in December +. I don't see how they can be labeled "the better football team" at this point. A better defense, yes, but that's about as far as I would go. A lot changes between now and mid-to-late season.




We played Seattle at a time when they weren't letting Wilson do too much. As the play book opened up later in the Season, Seattle's offense exploded (3 50pt games in a row).

If we had played Seattle again last year, Our D have been destroyed worse than what SF did to us.
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We played Seattle at a time when they weren't letting Wilson do too much. As the play book opened up later in the Season, Seattle's offense exploded (3 50pt games in a row).

If we had played Seattle again last year, Our D have been destroyed worse than what SF did to us.


And if Mike and Aaron weren't stat whoring by completely abandoning the run, SEA wouldn't have been able to pin their ears back and get 8 sacks.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:39:29 AM(UTC)

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play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Amazing... updated today.

http://www.nationalfootb...wl-odds-reboot-1641.html

Only NE, SF, DEN, SEA ahead of us, in that order. We are ahead of ATL, NO, NYG, PIT, BAL... WAS, CHI...


little heads up for those that might bet -
If the odds arnt great atm - wait till just before the playoffs (or when you think your team has it made).

Or you could bet on a long shot right now if you think they are going to be lucky ...

I didnt bet last year (no mula and the teams I liked; ya packers were first on my list) had crap odds.

Baltimore actually had decent odds before the play offs started

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:11:37 AM(UTC)

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It's all about our D. We are counting on good players coming back strong from injury (Bishop and Perry) and a lot of holes being filled this draft on the DL.

I just don't see it, but I guess if we have the shot near playoff time, and we can be healthy...
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:21:51 PM(UTC)

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RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
We played Seattle at a time when they weren't letting Wilson do too much. As the play book opened up later in the Season, Seattle's offense exploded (3 50pt games in a row).

If we had played Seattle again last year, Our D have been destroyed worse than what SF did to us.


To me, that's just speculation. Every game is different. The Packers game against the Seahawks was one of the worst coached first halves of NFL football I've seen in some (by the Packers). This season will be a new season with new players, injuries, schemes, etc. I still like the Rodgers led Green Bay Packers chances against the Seahawks, although obviously it could go anyway based on a few plays.

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