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Offline Pack93z  
#11 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 7:32:45 AM(UTC)
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Relative stats in the era would be an actual measuring point if one even wanted to compare them against each other.. the game was played much differently and the quality of the athletes it drew was still in its infancy.. compared to today where players routinely pick football over the other sports.

Couple that with the rules over the years being favored to the offenses and specifically the passing game to open it up. Back then.. there was no 5 yard bump rule, defensive holding, limitations of the pass rushers.. etc.

Example.. pulling probably each QB's best years (to date) in a per game focus in averages across the league:

1966
Comp 15
Att 29
Comp % 51.7
Yards 178
TD 1.3
INT 1.5
YPA 5.6


2011
Comp 20
Att 34
Comp % 58.8
Yards 230
TD 1.5
INT 1.0
YPA 6.3


Personally, I don't think you really can quantify it properly.. to really say one way or another as the game was so different to what is played today. And yearly.. the stats for the top rated passers is becoming even more skewed...

Now on opinion.. I think Rodgers would be more successful if the players were flipped in eras based on their pure talent sets as we know them to be, mostly because I think Rodgers could match Starr's athletic abilities with a better arm. In terms of football IQ.. I think they probably would be comparable.
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#12 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 8:07:03 AM(UTC)
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Since you don't want stats ... here's a fact. Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Bart Starr was.


So what is your definition of a QB? "The guy who throws the ball"? sure that is Aaron Rodgers

It is "The field general". Then no way. I will yield to Shawn's opinion that they are comparable in that area although Bart has more tangible proof.
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
So what is your definition of a QB? "The guy who throws the ball"? sure that is Aaron Rodgers

It is "The field general". Then no way. I will yield to Shawn's opinion that they are comparable in that area although Bart has more tangible proof.


Who had better accuracy?
Who had better arm strength?
Who could throw a better deep ball?
Who threw more yards (per game)
Who threw more touchdowns (per game)
Who had a better qb rating?

Aaron Rodgers.
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#14 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 8:20:22 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Who had better accuracy?
Who had better arm strength?
Who could throw a better deep ball?
Who threw more yards (per game)
Who threw more touchdowns (per game)
Who had a better qb rating?

Aaron Rodgers.


that is all the same thing. "The guy who chucks the ball down the field." I see a QB as being more rounded than that.
Why not look at who called their own plays? That is Starr. Sure Rodgers has the run/pass option and he can audible but he works out a the confines of the plays that are giving to him from the sideline. Starr had the freedom/responsibility to call the plays on his own with some assistance from the sidelines. A field general. A well rounded QB who doesn't rely on one aspect for his credibility.

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I am sure it is. That plus Kevin wants more discussion plus he is bored and He has brought this discussion up about 10 times in the past 5 years. I just want to make him feel like he is getting his money's worth.
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
that is all the same thing. "The guy who chucks the ball down the field." I see a QB as being more rounded than that.
Why not look at who called their own plays? That is Starr. Sure Rodgers has the run/pass option and he can audible but he works out a the confines of the plays that are giving to him from the sideline. Starr had the freedom/responsibility to call the plays on his own with some assistance from the sidelines. A field general. A well rounded QB who doesn't rely on one aspect for his credibility.


Plus, Aaron Rodgers has to do all of it without any hall of fame running backs to take heat off him. What you say now?

It's okay, Aaron Rodgers > Bart Starr. It's just fact. I'm glad Starr was around back then, but it's okay to acknowledge that someone better has come along. It's inevitable. There will be someone better than Reggie White, Sterling Sharpe, etc ... that's a good thing.

Acceptance you can.
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#18 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 8:32:44 AM(UTC)
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I am sure it is. That plus Kevin wants more discussion plus he is bored and He has brought this discussion up about 10 times in the past 5 years. I just want to make him feel like he is getting his money's worth.


To actually get his monies worth.. one would think he might start a thread discussing the real meat and potatoes of a football team.. not the over glorified position that is the QB. LOL
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To actually get his monies worth.. one would think he might start a thread discussing the real meat and potatoes of a football team.. not the over glorified position that is the QB. LOL


Big man still wishing he could toss the rock!
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#20 Posted : Monday, April 1, 2013 8:45:40 AM(UTC)
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Big man still wishing he could toss the rock!


Ahhh, that would be incorrect.. I could chuck the pigskin.. and the baseball as well, still can get into the high 70's with the baseball. Try again.. it is all about the over hype. ;)
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